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am i a pretentious graphic design student yet?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/7aIsXPy.png[/img]
[sp]for this assignment we had to more or less re-create an actual magazine cover, I wish I could do this completely on my own lmao[/sp]
[editline]17th February 2017[/editline]
I had to write a whole big thing justifying my choice in font as well as the minor changes I made from the original and it came out sounding super pretentious and I kinda loved it lol
Why don't you post the explanation and Ill let you know ;). As an architecture student I like to think I have a monopoly on sounding pretentious ha.
Cover looks decent. Id be interested in hearing your reason for choosing the font because it probably wouldn't have been my first choice, though it is fairly good.
I'm in agreement with the font. Not sure what it is but I get the Times New Roman feel from it, which sucks. The aliasing in that picture doesn't help so that's maybe why I'm thinking that, despite the similar font. It also looks like you have 5 different type styles going on, which is quite a bit considering how little text is actually there.
You should also take a better look at the alignment of your items. The first thing I noticed when glancing at it was this:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/jGdfvTR.png[/img]
It does look nice, just needs a bit of polishing.
I had to make a recipe card for class, and I had pretty much the best one in the class. Curious what you all think of it:
[t]http://i.imgur.com/xplFU7q.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=lope;51836858]I had to make a recipe card for class, and I had pretty much the best one in the class. Curious what you all think of it:
[t]http://i.imgur.com/xplFU7q.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Love it. It's super simple and you have a good consistency in your type headers. The title is visually an eye magnet which works brilliantly.
I'm not too sure about the paragraph font. Personally I'd have stuck with the serifs for that but I think that could just be me. The paragraph text also definitely needs a bit more breathing room. I'd have definitely been playing a bit more with the tracking and leading to allow it to breath.
[QUOTE=lope;51836858]I had to make a recipe card for class, and I had pretty much the best one in the class. Curious what you all think of it:
[t]http://i.imgur.com/xplFU7q.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
'1 Serving 10 Minutes' might be better off positioned under the title or something
I always find all-caps a little jarring with elegant fonts like that, not to mention I've been going through a phase where I prefer normal or small caps, but those are all personal things. Might be interesting to try a version with normal caps.
As it is, it is very nice and inspires thoughts of a recipe card box with many more in the same style.
[editline]17th February 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=LaughingStock;51837282]'1 Serving 10 Minutes' might be better off positioned under the title or something[/QUOTE]
Ya, I agree with this too, It is throwing off the balance where it is.
[QUOTE=PieClock;51836835]I'm in agreement with the font. Not sure what it is but I get the Times New Roman feel from it, which sucks. The aliasing in that picture doesn't help so that's maybe why I'm thinking that, despite the similar font. It also looks like you have 5 different type styles going on, which is quite a bit considering how little text is actually there.[/QUOTE]
The aliasing is probably because I think it's a JPG or PNG, I basically just used ShareX to take a screenshot of what I had open in Photoshop. Just being lazy.
In terms of text styles, there's only three, both "HUNGER" and "Niko the Cat" are styled the same, just different font sizes. Does changing the font size make it a new style? I'm still very new to all of this stuff so pointers are always appreciated. Apart from that, "Issue No 6" is styled slightly different for display or cataloging purposes, but the subtitles "For the culturally & visually hungry" and "Living Large" are also both the same style in terms of kerning and positioning.
[QUOTE=Smeetin;51836603]Why don't you post the explanation and Ill let you know ;). As an architecture student I like to think I have a monopoly on sounding pretentious ha.[/QUOTE]
Here it is, complete with my justification on the font.
[quote]When beginning this design, I thought hard about font choice. Although it is a recreation of an existing magazine cover, an untrained eye must still search to find a similar font that conveys a similar aesthetic. I ultimately chose a font called Bonesana PRO, a font popular with European culture magazines. When choosing fonts, I typically like to include a mix of serif and non-serif fonts. An ideal situation is the same font, provided with and without serifs. The serif evokes a professional, mature atmosphere, while non-serif fonts can be more intense and eye-popping. This was the first and arguably most important contrast in the whole piece – how does the font draw the viewer’s eye from top towards the bottom? Additionally, the background color of the piece was altered from a pure white to a very light grey, which I felt fit better with the monochrome aesthetic of the original.
When choosing Bonesana as my font, I decided to utilize only one version of the font to retain simplicity. While I could have used it in italics form for the undertext, I decided to rather continue with the same font to keep up repetition in the piece. In lieu of a change of font, I opted to utilize kerning and text effects to make some lines pop out more than others. This is evident in the magazine title, Hunger, which has a 220 unit kerning on each letter. This spaces the lettering, making the top of the page less cluttered while maintaining a consistent visual.
The title is aligned to utilize a maximum amount of width without coming so close to the edge of the page as to cause bleeding, were this to be actually printed. The left edge of the “H” and the right edge of the “R” in Hunger are equidistant from their respective page edges, giving a visually appealing invisible border around the title. In a minor departure from the original, I chose not to have the bottom of my title text overlap the center image. I felt that this distracted slightly from the sharp look of the central design and found that letting the sharp point jut into the space between the letters gave the piece a more cohesive feel.
The undertitle is placed directly under and to the right of the main title, with the issue number flanking it on the opposite site. While “Issue No 6” is centered under the two letters “H” and “U”, the undertitle is aligned to the right of the main title. This slight off-balance in alignment serves to highlight the issue number, which is important for cataloging and display purposes. The lightning bolt shaped design in the center grows upward from the bottom of the page, branching out like a tree or inverse lightning strike. In the large open space to the bottom right of the design, the issue title is bold and strong. Instead of using small diamonds as a text separator, I elected to use the pattern stamp tool, resulting in small, globe-like shapes. These spheres represent Hunger’s appeal to cultural globetrotters and international reach. The subtext for the issue title is printed in much smaller font, but in all caps, emphasizing the feeling of “living large.”
These considerations to the four aspects of design that we talked about in class resulted in a cover that I personally enjoy a lot more than the original. This is a cover I would certainly pick up at a newsstand.
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You are pretty low on the pretentious spectrum still, you have a lot to learn Padawan if you want to be haute couture.
I would start by throwing away any clothes you own that aren't #000000.
[editline]17th February 2017[/editline]
On a different note, the Netflix series: Abstract: The Art of Design is actually really good. I've only seen a couple, but the one on illustration was awesome.
[QUOTE=PieClock;51836835]
You should also take a better look at the alignment of your items. The first thing I noticed when glancing at it was this:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/jGdfvTR.png[/img][/QUOTE]
Are you able to elaborate a little more? When is it good to use off-balanced alignment? Should text always be aligned end to end when putting a line underneath? Is there a cardinal rule of alignment I should follow?
My whole life I've used Photoshop just to make stuff that looks good to me. I'm really excited to be getting into the nitty gritty, even if I'm only just scratching the surface :joy:
Moved serving size & time, and increased tracking on the body:
[t]http://i.imgur.com/ux1joub.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=FFStudios;51837972]Are you able to elaborate a little more? When is it good to use off-balanced alignment? Should text always be aligned end to end when putting a line underneath? Is there a cardinal rule of alignment I should follow?
My whole life I've used Photoshop just to make stuff that looks good to me. I'm really excited to be getting into the nitty gritty, even if I'm only just scratching the surface :joy:[/QUOTE]
I can try to explain a bit, but I'm pretty awful at putting a concept into words, and there are no solid rules so there's always exceptions.
Basically, if you're working on something like a cover try to work to a grid. It looks far cleaner and a lot of the time (again, there's always exceptions) if you're doing professional work people will look out for things like that (employers and so on). What I mean is a lot of the time in a design interview you'll be asked something like "why is that placed there"? This isn't exclusive to interviews, it's just what other graphic designers will think.
Chaotic placement of elements works great in certain styles of design but generally modern design respects rules like grids, lines, and more complicated shit like the golden ratio. [url=http://d-muntyan1215-dp.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/kinfolk-grids-and-layout-development.html]I found this neat page showing off this sort of thing.[/url] I say modern design because a lot of fields like print and web design will follow these "rules".
You'll find everyone has their own way of design and personally I'm very respectful of the grid and order instead of chaos. This is why I almost always say in my posts in this thread that I could be wrong or that it's just my opinion.
In regards to your question in the previous post about different sizes being a different style: Yes, I'd consider a different size being a different style. It helps a lot to have a visual hierarchy or else all your different bits of text can be fighting for dominance.
That came out as a bit of a ramble but I hope it helps a bit?
I said it earlier in the thread, but to add to what PieClock said, beginning designers should learn and stick to grids. Learn grids and alignment very very well. Once you are comfortable with grids, you can start strategically breaking those grids for effect. Breaking grids is an advanced design thing imo.
(This is essentially me regurgitating what my teachers told me, but I certainly agree with them based on my own experiences.)
The best part about learning grids is that they become a design tool that you carry with your from then on. You can develop your own toolkit of grids that work for different things. They are a consistent design element that you can actually LEARN. If you design free floating layouts, you can make them look good, but it will take a LOT of effort to repeat your success consistently.
[QUOTE=Smeetin;51838744]I said it earlier in the thread, but to add to what PieClock said, beginning designers should learn and stick to grids. Learn grids and alignment very very well. Once you are comfortable with grids, you can start strategically breaking those grids for effect. Breaking grids is an advanced design thing imo.
(This is essentially me regurgitating what my teachers told me, but I certainly agree with them based on my own experiences.)
The best part about learning grids is that they become a design tool that you carry with your from then on. You can develop your own toolkit of grids that work for different things. They are a consistent design element that you can actually LEARN. If you design free floating layouts, you can make them look good, but it will take a LOT of effort to repeat your success consistently.[/QUOTE]
That's what my philosophy was going into the oatmeal thing above, and it's the best thing I've ever made lmao
Don't know if this belongs here, but my bud drunkenly challenged me to make a fake album cover out of a Photo we took during a hike.
This was the result
[img]https://s3.postimg.org/hufq8jo83/PUSSY_BOYS.png[/img]
[QUOTE=FeartheMango;51840323]Don't know if this belongs here, but my bud drunkenly challenged me to make a fake album cover out of a Photo we took during a hike.
This was the result
[img]https://s3.postimg.org/hufq8jo83/PUSSY_BOYS.png[/img][/QUOTE]
this is fucking art
[QUOTE=RonthisTW;51841912]this is fucking art[/QUOTE]
You may also like these posters I did a couple years ago for one of the societies at my University
[img]https://s14.postimg.org/itewv0tvl/CTF.png[/img]
[img]https://s14.postimg.org/mease8yf5/Movie_Night_1.jpg[/img]
I have an idea of a Gran Turismo inspired racing game.
I've made some career menu concepts during my free time.
[B]Dealerships[/B]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/33HO0W8.png[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/wAILpQ3.png[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/upfVfAF.png[/t]
[B]License Center[/B]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/SDTS9Ls.png[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/MoAdyHj.png[/t]
[B]One of the 4 Used Cars Shops[/B]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/SXEfvF1.png[/t]
Feedback is appreciated
Don't use gradients they look horrible
I have a 32 inch screen, should I aim for a Wacom Intuos Pro Large or Medium?
I'd say it more depends on how you do your strokes rather than screen and personally would go for the medium to avoid only ever using one corner of the screen and tablet to draw. The medium is perfect for full motion strokes with the hand while not requiring you move the arm around too much. It's around the size of an a4 paper.
How do you stylistically inclined people feel about these album covers for my trash band?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/XNVVZ1x.jpg[/img][img]http://i.imgur.com/5rWKNBY.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/amuvr4i.jpg[/img][img]http://i.imgur.com/r5Vl78U.jpg[/img]
Not really sure what to do about how poorly the second and last ones read but I'd really like to keep it consistent. Definitely interested in critique.
Those look exactly as what you described them to. Loving the bottom left one, however, the bottom right one I disagree with. Bit hard to read the band name and, if your goal was to keep consistency - you've moved the title as well (not that big of a deal, depends on your preference). Thing is, both problems in it come from the photo, so keep that in mind(not sure if you want to swap it out for another one).
Overall, good work!
I did not realized I'd moved that last one. Thanks for pointing it out! I am conflicted over the last one, because I really like the mood for the photo but it's hard to say if it can be salvaged for the text.
I really like Sister Bay. Colors get along very well.
[editline]20th February 2017[/editline]
Tulle could be improved with different framing and better costume design. If you change the angle of the shot you can get the band name above the wall, and give the girl a brighter shirt so the text would stand out.
I really like the Commiserie logotype and I like the idea of juxtaposing real grungy font and stuff with really clean /stock photo imagery, but something about it feels off or lacking to me.
I think the main thing that is bugging me is the album title font. Its really driving me nuts. Its too insubstantial / weak, its the only straight element (everything thing else is at an angle), it feels disconnected and just tacked on, and the font itself just really doesn't jive for me. I would try a font that has some more weight to work with the band name, angle it a little, and line it up with something.
For lining it up there are a couple things you could :
1. You are working with strong and simple photographs which are full of lines. Try placing your album title at the end of certain leading lines that will "point" the eye towards it and fit the type into the composition.
2. Align the album title with the triple angled lines which are in each cover.
3. Create a border around the image that is thick enough to contain the album title.
It needs to be anchored somehow.
Also, with everything being angled the overall composition is fairly touchy dependent on the photo. It works well enough with sister bay or satellite because the photos are neutral / simple enough, but the other two begin to look a bit weird because there are so many other angles / strong lines in the image to compete with your logo type and triple lines.
It may go against something you have conceptualized that i don't know about, but i would suggest trying a version where the band name, triple lines and album title are all at the same angle. That way, no matter what the background image is, the type or vector elements will at least relate to each other if nothing else and will bring a base strength to each composition. There will be an easily found visual logic to the design.
I think Sister Bay is my favourite either way. The lootype / band name is so nice that whichever cover privileges it i like. You should almost just make your covers different color variations of that haha.
Old ones is definitely my least favorite. The background image is way to complex and the album title doesn't work. I also can't help but feel that the image is unrelated or maybe a personal reference or something that I find off putting.
Some really good ideas and nice elements but the compositions need some reworking imo. Do you have some music to link to? I wouldnt mind hearing the music that goes along with it, I don't know what kind of mood they are trying to portray really.
Nice stuff.
Thanks so much for the fantastic critique and feedback. It really means a lot to see such a huge wall of helpful text.
Just FYI these are all photos I've taken, so for example Old Ones is just a photo of an incredible little dachshund that I met abroad, aka chose entirely for sentimental reasons. I agree that it's a bit of a stretch so I doubt I can keep it. (sad face)
Second, they're actually titles for singles not albums, although design-wise it probably doesn't matter.
I'll definitely try angling the song text as well and see how it goes. I guess I was just wondering if it was too much of a stretch to keep some design elements 100% the same throughout, so it seems like I'll either have to be much more picky with the photos or compromise on that a bit and nudge things around to fit.
Most of the songs aren't finished but here's some stuff that's in the same ballpark. Just some trashy indie music r :)
[media]https://soundcloud.com/logan-mcdaniel/28-002-post2[/media]
[media]https://soundcloud.com/logan-mcdaniel/666da837ce-wav[/media]
[media]https://soundcloud.com/logan-mcdaniel/15a[/media]
[media]https://soundcloud.com/logan-mcdaniel/9b[/media]
Also, is this an improvement at all? I'm still looking for alternatives to the song title text, but no luck so far. I'm partial to B, then A, and C and D were just added in case someone thought having text on all 3 would be more important.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/gAM0nVF.jpg[/img][img]http://i.imgur.com/Nq50dkv.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/TNRkGdI.jpg[/img][img]http://i.imgur.com/ASlSikU.jpg[/img]
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