The Musician's Gig Room Chat V1 - Songwriting and Sound Design for all! - Creationism Corner

Whatever that is it's definitely going to be worth over 15$, if it's working.

[QUOTE=Hoyticus;49220974]It sounds pretty good, could definitely be expound upon. The mix gets a bit too loud at the end, but maybe it's just my headphones. The little string pluck is pretty corny it kinda makes me laugh. I could definitely see someone sampling this and adding some reverb and sidechaining and using for a hip hip beat of some kind. Is this a sort of style you were thinking of diving into just trying out in this little track, or is it something you've been doing for a while? Cuz it's pretty good, and you can only get better at this point. The chimes around 0:20 could use maybe a bigger sound and a little more "punchiness" if you will. Not sure exactly how to achieve that sound, but the chimes were a good addition but were just a bit underwhelming. [media]https://soundcloud.com/thehoyticus/obsession[/media] Made this track a while ago, looking back at it it sounds a lot better than some of the other stuff I was making at the time. Wanted to know what you guys thought [editline]1st December 2015[/editline] somebody should start a group on soundcloud[/QUOTE] This track opens really well- its a lovely wee melody and harmony you have going there. Have you thought about changing the rhythm of a it a bit towards the drop, or using a minor/diminished chord to up the tension? A technique I've been abusing lately is using loads of sustain on chords like that over a tense-sounding riser/white-noise wash to build into the drop. Neat effect to introduce the bassline as well, and that sounded nice as a whole but seemed a bit too wet for the track as a whole. That's getting down to opinion though, and the breakdown near 1:46 certainly works. Fun use of reverb too and ping pong delay to up the stereo field of the track and all :D The drum beat is solid, but I think you could add more variety to it. I don't think adding more outright is the solution, as it seems to be syncopated as it is, but rather having a couple gaps where one of the elements don't hit might work and add a bit more jive to it. That or using a groove pool if you have ableton. Recently I've found freezing a bunch of hat hits and adding a phaser with a tempo-locked LFO is a fun thing to do, then chopping the phased hats to hit the beat and be a bit skippy is neat. The Phaser is something that isn't terribly apparent, but it adds more movement and variety. Also that track you critted was someone elses arrangement, I was just using my external synth and playing with my new audio interface :D I don't have anything to post, myself, just wanted to crit this since I've been meaning too for ages. Article maybe gets published in the next few days, I'm editing the final draft now. It went to 2000 words and I ended up doing sidechain compression for bassline ducking (because its such a fundamental) and then covered sidechaining a filter delay for echoing vocal swells that don't wash the main vocal out. The end of the article features a bunch of ideas and exercises that I toss out, as its a learning website (for which you can get "homework" or at least bookwork). I'd like to post it here and let you guys see if it helps, but I'm not sure how its being monetized yet or if its going to be behind the paywall (which while that is unfortunate, bassgorilla is a really solid site in terms of content). [editline]6th December 2015[/editline] I'm unbelievably excited, I had a lot of fun writing the article and finally having an audience for my textwalls would be awesome. I love helping people :D also don't tell them that despite their 2 year experience requirement I barely have a year shhh

Can I pop in here and say that bandcamp has the kindest support team, they are pretty quick too. [t]https://my.mixtape.moe/bmrkug.png[/t]

[QUOTE=Plaster;49260614]Whatever that is it's definitely going to be worth over 15$, if it's working.[/QUOTE] Well it depends. My region seems to be flooded with electric organs. They're a bitch to move and often they are indeed broken. A buddy of mine got one that seemed in working condition although smoke came out after 15 minutes :v: If it's 15$ it might just be that you pay [I]them[/I] to move it out of their place and nothing more... [editline]8th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=The Salmon;49214097]groove is kinda funny, not feeling it personally but that's up to you. sonic palette is very thin to me, very little substance to latch on to. [media]https://soundcloud.com/samhaberman/zeldas-lullaby-samba-version[/media][/QUOTE] I like it, don't like the bend though. Also perhaps make the bass more organic, I have the impression that it seems generated automatically. What you could do for example in a ii-V movement have the bass play lots of ornaments. So you would go do instead of (in the key of C, with the syncopated rhythm you used): ii: D D V: G G ii: D Ab F# V: G B D Db I: C F# G G C G Of course it might become a bit to crowded then. Also consider maybe a fretless bass sound instead of a double bass, I like latin fretless bass a lot because it reminds me of this type of music (0:30 for example): [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwpONW1z51w[/url] ____________________________________________ Made this quickly because I felt like sampling some Bill Evans: [media]https://soundcloud.com/patronbernard/wetekikket-jong[/media] Not that happy about the transitions and the lack of the song really "unleashing" itself, possibly because all I have is my laptop keyboard atm. Also I need a more meaty bass sound. Hip Hop Sub in Ableton is way too sterile...

[QUOTE=Number-41;49274550]Well it depends. My region seems to be flooded with electric organs. They're a bitch to move and often they are indeed broken. A buddy of mine got one that seemed in working condition although smoke came out after 15 minutes :v: If it's 15$ it might just be that you pay [I]them[/I] to move it out of their place and nothing more...[/QUOTE] I wish I used the electric organ I've had ages ago a lot more, didn't have that many sound but it had some default beats that sounded like it's all made using only one sound with different pitches. Worst thing was that it was the size that scared me the most, I remember having nightmares too. From an electric organ.

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[QUOTE=Number-41;49274550] Made this quickly because I felt like sampling some Bill Evans: [media]https://soundcloud.com/patronbernard/wetekikket-jong[/media] Not that happy about the transitions and the lack of the song really "unleashing" itself, possibly because all I have is my laptop keyboard atm. Also I need a more meaty bass sound. Hip Hop Sub in Ableton is way too sterile...[/QUOTE] I liked how chill and groovy that got around 30 seconds in. It makes me think of being in a big city, solving crimes n' shit. This is a piece I put together a few months ago. About half-way through it reminds of something that would be off 'The Dark Knight' soundtrack, though that didn't inspire this at all. [media]https://soundcloud.com/travis-cumming-3/no-fatemp3[/media]

[QUOTE=4yourmalice;49276856][media]https://soundcloud.com/travis-cumming-3/no-fatemp3[/media][/QUOTE] Man your sound space is so solid, everything blends together so well...what would you recommend I do to become more aware of the presence of my sounds? I can't for the life of me ever figure out where things should sit in my mix. Bass at the beginning is gloriously thick, I love it. Got inspiration from a tune and tried to reproduce the vibe of it, this is the result. [media]https://soundcloud.com/adius89/luminescence[/media] lotsoreverb

[QUOTE=Adius Shadow;49277148]Man your sound space is so solid, everything blends together so well...what would you recommend I do to become more aware of the presence of my sounds? I can't for the life of me ever figure out where things should sit in my mix. Bass at the beginning is gloriously thick, I love it. [/QUOTE] I don't really know what to tell you about how to mix things, man. I'm pretty amateur at this kind of stuff and I'm just creating what I think sounds good. This song I posted is just a bunch of 'soundpools' I arranged in Magix Music Maker. Other than some pitch shifting, and volume balancing, I barely did anything here.

Does anybody know of any Android apps that behave like a launchpad/FL Studio performance mode?

I need something to make gabber kicks and shit

[QUOTE=Ms. Gyroscope;49277324]I need something to make gabber kicks and shit[/QUOTE] Saw/square wave, pitch envelope, distortion, done.

[QUOTE=4yourmalice;49276856]I liked how chill and groovy that got around 30 seconds in. It makes me think of being in a big city, solving crimes n' shit. This is a piece I put together a few months ago. About half-way through it reminds of something that would be off 'The Dark Knight' soundtrack, though that didn't inspire this at all. [media]https://soundcloud.com/travis-cumming-3/no-fatemp3[/media] [/QUOTE] Regardless of whether this was made with loops, I love the superhero vibe this gives off. Maybe on the beginning synths, you could add some reverb to give it a bit more atmosphere. Other than that, good work on this one! Released this track over Halloween a month or so ago. Let me know what you guys think! [media]https://soundcloud.com/bull04/bullseye-lethal-original-mix-happy-halloween[/media]

[QUOTE=bull04;49277656]Regardless of whether this was made with loops, I love the superhero vibe this gives off. Maybe on the beginning synths, you could add some reverb to give it a bit more atmosphere. Other than that, good work on this one! Released this track over Halloween a month or so ago. Let me know what you guys think! [media]https://soundcloud.com/bull04/bullseye-lethal-original-mix-happy-halloween[/media][/QUOTE] I appreciate the feedback, man. I'll fiddle around with that track tomorrow and see what I can fine tune! As for your song : I'm not a big dub-step guy, but this had some nice synth work thrown in the mix to freshen it up. It's not exactly my cup of tea, but it sounds like you nailed the sound you were going for. Good job man!

[QUOTE=Adius Shadow;49277148]Man your sound space is so solid, everything blends together so well...what would you recommend I do to become more aware of the presence of my sounds? I can't for the life of me ever figure out where things should sit in my mix. Bass at the beginning is gloriously thick, I love it. Got inspiration from a tune and tried to reproduce the vibe of it, this is the result. [media]https://soundcloud.com/adius89/luminescence[/media] lotsoreverb[/QUOTE] Lots o gated reverb it seems. It sounds pretty vanilla though, thought of using a different reverb plug in or getting weirder with the settings? EpicVerb is my new favorite. Otherwise this is really nice, picking up some Mitis vibes. [editline]9th December 2015[/editline] I think I spent too much time learning the technical side. I could do the ol fashioned kind of production for another artist, or help with the technical side of sound design and atmospheric sound design but im so terrible at composition. I'm trying to change that though, been retaking courses on bassgorilla and I'm hauling my real midi keyboard home and trying to just churn out songs (no quality freezes here) over my break

So the premier of my composition for cello and piano was tonight. I had to be called by my band teachers because i was busy talking about relationships and stuff and I was scrambling to find the music. The band that was on stage stopped playing and it was time for my piece to start. I started freaking out trying to find where I left the music. Panic panic panic After a while I gave up and stepped on stage and sat at the piano. Lights come on. No music. My heart's beating like crazy. and well, it happened? I couldn't focus too much on interpretation because I was freaking out way too much about not having music and how I have to remember everything. Well hey, at least it was successful. But it was way too much stress for me in my life. I've got another chance tomorrow, and this time I've made sure I know where the music is.

What do you guys think of [url=https://www.propellerheads.se/reason]Reason[/url]?

If you like it, use it. If you haven't used it try it before buying it. I only recommend FL and Ableton so much because of how common resources are fkr those two, and because they're both fairly divided work flow-wise. It's about what works for you, what we individually think doesn't really matter. I tried bitwig last week, since they have neat multi-touch implementation for surface pros but I just couldn't do it. Wasn't for me.

You can write great stuff in reason but the lack of VST support kills any desire I have to use it

[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;49281400]You can write great stuff in reason but the lack of VST support kills any desire I have to use it[/QUOTE] Why the fuck wouldn't you be able to use VST's in Reason? What are they, stupid? [editline]9th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=KmartSqrl;49281400]You can write great stuff in reason but the lack of VST support kills any desire I have to use it[/QUOTE] I would love for a modular tracker like Jeskola Buzz but no one has decided to take inspiration and do their own professional version. The idea of having a visual flowchart in one screen, the written notes in another screen, and the pattern sequencer in another screen is an awesome and super-speedy workflow. Less time with the mouse is more success in my book. [b]EDIT:[/b] Oops, misread - Reason instead of ReNoise. I don't like either.

I mean can't you do that with Ableton? Open up a second window and either have a detail view of audio/midi clips or a mixer panel. I do wish Live had something like FLs patcher though. Now that I've been using Reaktor I really want it.

Does Abelton have a tracker interface?

[QUOTE=wauterboi;49281538]Why the fuck wouldn't you be able to use VST's in Reason? What are they, stupid? [editline]9th December 2015[/editline] I would love for a modular tracker like Jeskola Buzz but no one has decided to take inspiration and do their own professional version. The idea of having a visual flowchart in one screen, the written notes in another screen, and the pattern sequencer in another screen is an awesome and super-speedy workflow. Less time with the mouse is more success in my book.[/QUOTE] Pro tools 11 onwards doesn't have VST support and is far and away the most popular professional DAW

Professional or not, I don't want to use it. I'll stick with Cockos Reaper.

Everybody should use renoise.

[QUOTE=killerteacup;49281957]Pro tools 11 onwards doesn't have VST support and is far and away the most popular professional DAW[/QUOTE] Pro tools has had RTAS for a long time though. [editline]9th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=paindoc;49281649]I mean can't you do that with Ableton? Open up a second window and either have a detail view of audio/midi clips or a mixer panel. I do wish Live had something like FLs patcher though. Now that I've been using Reaktor I really want it.[/QUOTE] Max 4 Live. Max can load and run vsts.

Man, I haven't had any inspiration for the past two weeks. All I do is write down melodies and never get back to them.

[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;49282573]Pro tools has had RTAS for a long time though. [editline]9th December 2015[/editline] Max 4 Live. Max can load and run vsts.[/QUOTE] I looked into it and it looks like they use something closer to "native", like AAX or RTAS or something like that, so I kind of redact my earlier statements. I wonder what performance gain they get for not implementing VST, though. I thought VST was the go-to in the audio world. [editline]9th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=TheDrunkenOne;49282633]Man, I haven't had any inspiration for the past two weeks. All I do is write down melodies and never get back to them.[/QUOTE] Take a break.

If everybody used renoise the world would be a much better place

[QUOTE=wauterboi;49282774]I looked into it and it looks like they use something closer to "native", like AAX or RTAS or something like that, so I kind of redact my earlier statements. I wonder what performance gain they get for not implementing VST, though. I thought VST was the go-to in the audio world.[/QUOTE] That's a really recent feature, and afaik not a performance related decision. It's more to do with giving plugin devs the ability to add the whole flipping the rack around and rewiring shit thing to their plugins because that's one of Reason's major features and wouldn't be doable the same way purely with VST plugins.