Nice, but why are all of these formus so "facepunchey"?
[QUOTE=nos217;15676978]Nice, but why are all of these formus so "facepunchey"?[/QUOTE]
cuz faecpunch is teh best!!!
[QUOTE=x0r;15676897]Still, not every beginner is going to know multiple inheritance, template meta programming, etc.[/QUOTE]
No shit, that's the point. These *are* some hard features of C++, so a beginner isn't going to touch them.
You learn the exact same things when you start C# and C++: Variables, functions, classes, containers... it's just as easy.
I think that until it gets a little bigger, you should place multiple sections together to ensure everything has more traffic. Hell, even Facepunch only has one programming section.
nice!
Saw some generic threads then a "make money online" thread.
meh
Thanks for the comments everyone, I'm going to be making some improvements over the next few days based on what you have said.
Feel free to sign up and get to know us if you haven't already :)
I really do like it.
[QUOTE=gparent;15677948]No shit, that's the point. These *are* some hard features of C++, so a beginner isn't going to touch them.
You learn the exact same things when you start C# and C++: Variables, functions, classes, containers... it's just as easy.[/QUOTE]
C and C++ has the problem where you need to split declarations and definitions to make multiple object files interact with eachother, which brings in the preprocessor (for header guards), the difference of code compilation and linking, and a bunch of silly errors because someone coming from another language thought that #including c/cpp files was the way to go. Modern languages don't have these problems, and you don't need to declare something before it's used, as long as it's declared somewhere.
The website is pretty nice, I must say.
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Like the site. Joined up, might post some snippets later when I get rid off my "OH GOD EVERYONE IS GOING TO SEE MY MISTAKES" syndrom.
Probably would have been better to have a competition even loosely based on programming, you are basically encouraging shitposting.
Quality>Quantity
[QUOTE=nos217;15676978]Nice, but why are all of these formus so "facepunchey"?[/QUOTE]
Because he used the post icons and smilies from SA. Which Facepunch is a rip-off from.
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[QUOTE=compwhiziitothemax;15671130][img]http://imgkk.com/i/6UT4bn4.png[/img]
Nice admin buttons.[/QUOTE]
Did you even try clicking them? If you would have you'd seen that you wouldn't be able to access them.
To many general forums, not enough focus.
[QUOTE=jA_cOp;15683124]C and C++ has the problem where you need to split declarations and definitions to make multiple object files interact with eachother, which brings in the preprocessor (for header guards), the difference of code compilation and linking, and a bunch of silly errors because someone coming from another language thought that #including c/cpp files was the way to go. Modern languages don't have these problems, and you don't need to declare something before it's used, as long as it's declared somewhere.[/QUOTE]
Which every modern IDE provides a wizard for.
What's the problem again?
[QUOTE=gparent;15688358]Which every modern IDE provides a wizard for.
What's the problem again?[/QUOTE]
Sure an IDE might place some header guards for you, but it takes a user to write code.
It also takes a user to create the source/header files, instead of going "???" where it says "header" and just creating lots of cpp files and using #include. Lots of things can go wrong, and it's another stepping stone in the learning process that modern languages remove altogether.
And is explained within a single page of any good book or tutorial.
If you can't figure out files, you're an idiot and do not want to get into programming.
Why have a button to run a database backup.
We have Cron Jobs for a reason.
[QUOTE=thelinx;15687931]Did you even try clicking them? If you would have you'd seen that you wouldn't be able to access them.[/QUOTE]
It's still ew.
Please, just please, make a freaking Flash section. There are so much Flash development going on around the web, but still it gets so little attention.
I would definitely become a member, and help out with a Flash section, if one was created that is.
It get's little attention because you can't make extensive games with it. I think.
[QUOTE=nos217;15690623]It get's little attention because you can't make extensive games with it. I think.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. While it's improving, it's still incredibly slow and runs like balls on low end machines.
[QUOTE=mikhga;15690433]Please, just please, make a freaking Flash section. There are so much Flash development going on around the web, but still it gets so little attention.
I would definitely become a member, and help out with a Flash section, if one was created that is.[/QUOTE]
No. If a major point of something is that it's cross platform, it should actually work on all platforms. [b]Which many things don't[/b] (Flash, AIR, Java).
It's bullshit.
Fuck flash.
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[QUOTE=compwhiziitothemax;15689214]It's still ew.[/QUOTE]
It's gone by now, too.
[QUOTE=nos217;15690623]It get's little attention because you can't make extensive games with it. I think.[/QUOTE]
Fine then disagree with me ^^. You can do that all you want, it's still true. Eventually you will get better and use C++. Also, rated myself agree :P.
[QUOTE=thelinx;15691280]No. If a major point of something is that it's cross platform, it should actually work on all platforms. [b]Which many things don't[/b] (Flash, AIR, Java).
It's bullshit.
Fuck flash.
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It's gone by now, too.[/QUOTE]
Do you know how much money there is in Flash? It's not bullshit. Listing some Flash forums:
Kirupa.com
Members: 148,559
Flashkit.com
Members: 630,603
It's a great tool, and you are going to exclude it just because it's not cross-platform, and you are going to exclude Java also? If you want teens to join, why the hell are you excluding so many languages, what would keep them from not just going to another forum?
I would totally have joined if you hadn't excluded Flash, and what would you lose if you did have a Flash section? You would only gain members, not lose them.
And also, AIR is cross-platform. Though I have only tried it on Windows.
[QUOTE=mikhga;15694309]and you are going to exclude Java also?[/QUOTE]
but java [b]is[/b] cross-platform
[QUOTE=danharibo;15694720]but java [b]is[/b] cross-platform[/QUOTE]
Yes, I know. But he said they were going to exclude it as well.
Flash basically is almost cross-platform. It works on Windows, OSX and all the major Unices, on at least x86, x64 and ARM architectures, plus some Symbian/MIDP phones and, hell, even some of the old Palm Handhelds.
Whilst Adobe are slow as fuck at porting it to new platforms, people are reverse-engineering the player part of it, so you've got Flash players such as Gnash which could theoretically be compiled on any platform.
A lot of languages started out only on one platform, on one architecture - a lot of scripting languages at least, like PHP and Python. Are they bullshit?
Plus I'd say at least 75% of people on the internet have Flash now, due to sites like Youtube.
What's the point in randomly lashing out at a language you don't even use? I've seen some neat stuff done with Flash too. Hopefully some neater shit will appear once it can run Bytecode, use hardware shaders and so on.
[QUOTE=mikhga;15694309]Do you know how much money there is in Flash? It's not bullshit. Listing some Flash forums:
Kirupa.com
Members: 148,559
Flashkit.com
Members: 630,603
It's a great tool, and you are going to exclude it just because it's not cross-platform, and you are going to exclude Java also? If you want teens to join, why the hell are you excluding so many languages, what would keep them from not just going to another forum?
I would totally have joined if you hadn't excluded Flash, and what would you lose if you did have a Flash section? You would only gain members, not lose them.
And also, AIR is cross-platform. Though I have only tried it on Windows.[/QUOTE]
Why would you want to make a game in a tool that uses CPU only for it's rendering?
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