What are you working on? V4 (HTML ISN'T PROGRAMMING)

[ryandaniels]

Nullsquared was offended because he felt he was being talked down to.

Catbadh over-explained something, but meant no harm by it.

I suggest we digest these facts personally and stop arguing over them.

[nullsquared]

[QUOTE=databee;18267418]Saying you're writing a paper on the math of raytracers isn't really helpful to me.[/quote]
Neither is any of the shit that anyone else posts in here. Its their own personal projects.

[quote]Someone pointing out a error in your raytracer is helpful to you.[/QUOTE]
Like I said.

"I think your reflection is wrong, is there any attenuation going on?" = good

"Your reflection is wrong, there's no attenuation." = also good

"Your reflection isn't quite correct, (paragraph of explanation as if I'm some kind of newbie)" = bad

[Chandler]

[QUOTE=ryandaniels;18267432]Nullsquared was offended because he felt he was being talked down to.

Catbadh over-explained something, but meant no harm by it.

I suggest we digest these facts personally and stop arguing over them.[/QUOTE]

We're going to need a lot of fiber. :/

[databee]

[QUOTE=nullsquared;18267467]Neither is any of the shit that anyone else posts in here. Its their own personal projects.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=nullsquared;18267324]What are you working on? V4 ( [b]NULLSQUARED AND OTHERS POST USEFUL CONTENT[/b], IDIOTS ARGUE WITH NULL EVERY TIME HE POSTS SOMETHING)[/QUOTE]

Kinda walked right into that one.

[efeX]

[QUOTE=Senney;18267226]What are you working on? V4 (DONT ACTUALLY POST WHAT YOU'RE WORKING ON JUST ARGUE)[/QUOTE]

more like

What are you working on? V4 (DONT ACTUALLY POST ANYTHING BECAUSE NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU ARE WORKING ON, THEY JUST ENTERED THE THREAD TO ENTER IT) - gangbang

[nullsquared]

[QUOTE=databee;18267515]Kinda walked right into that one.[/QUOTE]

Clearly running out of actual stuff to argue about.

[dezek]

I always get excited when I see there's a bunch of new posts in this thread but it's disappointing to see that almost all the new posts are crap...

But it's good you guys are thinking of a new threadtitle, I'm starting to see V5 at the horizon.

[databee]

[QUOTE=nullsquared;18267587]Clearly running out of actual stuff to argue about.[/QUOTE]

Just trying to point out how arrogant you are. Everyone already knows this so I may aswell leave it.

[editline]09:54PM[/editline]

Thread needs more 5 minute raytracers.

[nullsquared]

[QUOTE=databee;18267638]Just trying to point out how arrogant you are. Everyone already knows this so I may aswell leave it.[/QUOTE]

So I used the wrong word, how is that arrogance you dolt?

[databee]

[QUOTE=nullsquared;18267665]So I used the wrong word, how is that arrogance you dolt?[/QUOTE]

What?

Shouldn't you be arguing with someone who gives you advice?

[efeX]

[QUOTE=nullsquared;18267665]So I used the wrong word, how is that arrogance you dolt?[/QUOTE]

you are from new york why are you using the word dolt

[jA_cOp]

I'm glad we saved this for the conclusion of V4, instead of the introduction to V5...

[Cathbadh]

[QUOTE=nullsquared;18267403]What's your point? Pretty much everything in graphics breaks real-life rules. And like I said, if I was shooting for realism, I wouldn't be writing a ray tracer, I'd be writing a path tracer or photon tracer. Your argument is completely useless considering that I specifically said the reflection coefficient is 1 (OMG BREAKING REAL-LIFE RULES, NOOOO)[/QUOTE]
It's not like this is super-special voodoo math. Ray tracers are supposed to approximate real-life, are they not? I'm just saying that the coefficients for the diffuse, specular, and reflective energy components need to sum to [I]at most[/I] 1.

[efeX]

[QUOTE=jA_cOp;18267794]I'm glad we saved this for the conclusion of V4, instead of the introduction to V5...[/QUOTE]

gotta go out with a bang brotha

[garry]

Stop with the stupid arguments, you're all just making yourself look stupid(er).

I coded a D3D renderer for GWEN. There's nothing impressive to show because it looks exactly the same as the Botch renderer and the GDI+ renderer. But maybe that IS the cool thing.

[img]http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/3319/direct3dsample200911082.png[/img]

[jA_cOp]

The harsh gradient on the tabs makes the text on top of it look a bit off.

[Cathbadh]

[QUOTE=garry;18267928]Stop with the stupid arguments, you're all just making yourself look stupid(er).

I coded a D3D renderer for GWEN. There's nothing impressive to show because it looks exactly the same as the Botch renderer and the GDI+ renderer. But maybe that IS the cool thing.

[img]http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/3319/direct3dsample200911082.png[/img][/QUOTE]
How are you loading and rendering the custom font? Comic sans always looks like treason, but the antialiasing on that could be a lot better. I'm partial to using Freetype myself.

[nullsquared]

[QUOTE=Cathbadh;18267813]It's not like this is super-special voodoo math. Ray tracers are supposed to approximate real-life, are they not? I'm just saying that the coefficients for the diffuse, specular, and reflective energy components need to sum to [I]at most[/I] 1.[/QUOTE]

No they don't. That's what high dynamic range rendering is for.

[editline]05:22PM[/editline]

Garry, what does Gwen do in terms of rendering optimizations?

[ryandaniels]

Not really programing related but it's not thread worthy and I don't know of any better thread to ask this so;

Have you ever noticed when walking a in a real big room, like a lobby in a fancy building or something, and gotten that feeling of space? Like you really just feel how immense the room is. Well I have, and this promtped me to realize that games don't have this. Games always feel boxed in, like you are a giant proportionally.

So my question is, is this a product of 1)insufficient screen size/ width, 2) improper perspective, 3) no binary depth perception, or 4) improper scale?

[danharibo]

[QUOTE=ryandaniels;18268500]Not really programing related but it's not thread worthy and I don't know of any better thread to ask this so;

Have you ever noticed when walking a in a real big room, like a lobby in a fancy building or something, and gotten that feeling of space? Like you really just feel how immense the room is. Well I have, and this promtped me to realize that games don't have this. Games always feel boxed in, like you are a giant proportionally.

So my question is, is this a product of 1)insufficient screen size/ width, 2) improper perspective, 3) no binary depth perception, or 4) improper scale?[/QUOTE]

It's problably a combination of all 4, Since monitors don't really allow for depth perception, and the scale of some games are just so far off it's silly

[garry]

[QUOTE=nullsquared;18268267]Garry, what does Gwen do in terms of rendering optimizations?[/QUOTE]

Nothing right now, it's left up to the renderer (and eventual implementation).

It does let you detect when it needs a redraw, so you can have it rendered to a texture and only redraw it when you need to, for example.

[nullsquared]

[QUOTE=garry;18268698]
It does let you detect when it needs a redraw, so you can have it rendered to a texture and only redraw it when you need to, for example.[/QUOTE]

Oh, ok. How would batching optimizations be done? Naive rendering would mean that every GUI widget would be at least 9 batches (8 corners and center piece), so I'm curious how this would be optimized if its left entirely up to the renderer.

[garry]

[QUOTE=Cathbadh;18268128]How are you loading and rendering the custom font? Comic sans always looks like treason, but the antialiasing on that could be a lot better. I'm partial to using Freetype myself.[/QUOTE]

Using D3DX, it doesn't have any filtering enabled

[editline]10:48PM[/editline]

[QUOTE=nullsquared;18268773]Oh, ok. How would batching optimizations be done? Naive rendering would mean that every GUI widget would be at least 9 batches (8 corners and center piece), so I'm curious how this would be optimized if its left entirely up to the renderer.[/QUOTE]

Every panel has renderdata, which is just a void* - the renderer can use this pointer to store any renderer specific data it wants about the panel.

Although I don't really believe that drawing 9 quads per panel is that big of a deal - and would always be more in favour of caching pixel data rather than geometry.

[editline]10:51PM[/editline]

FYI, here's the code to the D3D renderer so far

[cpp]namespace Gwen
{
namespace Renderer
{
DirectX9::DirectX9( IDirect3DDevice9* pDevice )
{
m_pDevice = pDevice;
m_iVertNum = 0;

for ( int i=0; i<MaxVerts; i++ )
{
m_pVerts[ i ].z = 0.5f;
m_pVerts[ i ].rhw = 1.0f;
}
}

DirectX9::~DirectX9()
{

}

void DirectX9::Begin()
{
m_pDevice->SetRenderState( D3DRS_ALPHABLENDENABLE, TRUE );
m_pDevice->SetRenderState( D3DRS_SRCBLEND, D3DBLEND_SRCALPHA );
m_pDevice->SetRenderState( D3DRS_DESTBLEND, D3DBLEND_INVSRCALPHA );
}

void DirectX9::End()
{
Flush();
}

void DirectX9::DrawLine( int x, int y, int a, int b )
{
}

void DirectX9::Flush()
{
if ( m_iVertNum > 0 )
{
m_pDevice->SetFVF( D3DFVF_VERTEXFORMAT2D );
m_pDevice->DrawPrimitiveUP( D3DPT_TRIANGLELIST, m_iVertNum/3, &m_pVerts[0], sizeof(VERTEXFORMAT2D) );

m_iVertNum = 0;
}
}

void DirectX9::AddVert( int x, int y )
{
if ( m_iVertNum >= MaxVerts-1 )
{
Flush();
}

m_pVerts[ m_iVertNum ].x = (float)x;
m_pVerts[ m_iVertNum ].y = (float)y;
m_pVerts[ m_iVertNum ].color = m_Color;

m_iVertNum++;
}

void DirectX9::DrawFilledRect( Gwen::Rect rect )
{
Translate( rect );

AddVert( rect.x, rect.y );
AddVert( rect.x+rect.w, rect.y );
AddVert( rect.x, rect.y + rect.h );

AddVert( rect.x+rect.w, rect.y );
AddVert( rect.x+rect.w, rect.y+rect.h );
AddVert( rect.x, rect.y + rect.h );
}

void DirectX9::SetDrawColor(Gwen::Color color)
{
m_Color = D3DCOLOR_ARGB( color.a, color.r, color.g, color.b );
}

void DirectX9::LoadFont( Gwen::Font* font )
{
// Scale the font according to canvas
font->realsize = font->size * Scale();

D3DXFONT_DESC fd;

memset( &fd, 0, sizeof(fd) );

wcscpy_s( fd.FaceName, LF_FACESIZE, font->facename.c_str() );

fd.Width = 0;
fd.MipLevels = 1;
fd.CharSet = DEFAULT_CHARSET;
fd.Height = font->realsize * -1.0f;
fd.OutputPrecision = OUT_DEFAULT_PRECIS;
fd.Italic = 0;
fd.Weight = FW_NORMAL;
fd.Quality = 0;
fd.PitchAndFamily = DEFAULT_PITCH | FF_DONTCARE;

LPD3DXFONT pD3DXFont;
HRESULT hr = D3DXCreateFontIndirect( m_pDevice, &fd, &pD3DXFont );

font->data = pD3DXFont;
}

void DirectX9::FreeFont( Gwen::Font* pFont )
{
if ( !pFont->data ) return;

LPD3DXFONT pD3DXFont = (LPD3DXFONT) pFont->data;
pD3DXFont->Release();
pFont->data = NULL;

}

void DirectX9::RenderText( Gwen::Font* pFont, Gwen::Rect rect, const Gwen::UnicodeString& text )
{
Flush();

// If the font doesn't exist, or the font size should be changed
if ( !pFont->data || fabs( pFont->realsize - pFont->size * Scale() ) > 2 )
{
FreeFont( pFont );
LoadFont( pFont );
}

LPD3DXFONT pD3DXFont = (LPD3DXFONT) pFont->data;
Translate( rect );

RECT ClipRect = { rect.x, rect.y, rect.right(), rect.bottom() };
pD3DXFont->DrawTextW( NULL, text.c_str(), -1, &ClipRect, DT_WORDBREAK | DT_LEFT | DT_TOP, m_Color );
}

Gwen::Point DirectX9::MeasureText( Gwen::Font* pFont, const Gwen::UnicodeString& text, int iMaxWidth )
{
// If the font doesn't exist, or the font size should be changed
if ( !pFont->data || fabs( pFont->realsize - pFont->size * Scale() ) > 2 )
{
FreeFont( pFont );
LoadFont( pFont );
}

LPD3DXFONT pD3DXFont = (LPD3DXFONT) pFont->data;

Point size;

if ( text.empty() )
{
RECT rct = {0,0,0,0};
pD3DXFont->DrawTextW( NULL, L"W", -1, &rct, DT_CALCRECT, 0 );

return Gwen::Point( 0, rct.bottom );
}

RECT rct = {0,0,0,0};
if ( iMaxWidth > 0 )
{
rct.right = iMaxWidth;
}

pD3DXFont->DrawTextW( NULL, text.c_str(), -1, &rct, DT_CALCRECT | DT_WORDBREAK | DT_LEFT | DT_TOP, 0 );
return Point( rct.right + 1, rct.bottom + 1 );

}

void DirectX9::StartClip()
{
Flush();

m_pDevice->SetRenderState( D3DRS_SCISSORTESTENABLE, TRUE );

const Gwen::Rect& rect = ClipRegion();

RECT r;

r.left = rect.x * Scale();
r.right = rect.right() * Scale();
r.top = rect.y * Scale();
r.bottom = rect.bottom() * Scale();

m_pDevice->SetScissorRect( &r );
}

void DirectX9::EndClip()
{
Flush();
m_pDevice->SetRenderState( D3DRS_SCISSORTESTENABLE, FALSE );
}

void DirectX9::DrawTexturedRect( Gwen::Texture* pTexture, Gwen::Rect pTargetRect, float u1, float v1, float u2, float v2 )
{
}

void DirectX9::LoadTexture( Gwen::Texture* pTexture )
{
}

void DirectX9::FreeTexture( Gwen::Texture* pTexture )
{
}
}
}[/cpp]

That's all that's rendering the screenshot above.

[Mattz333]

[img]http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/144/darkx.png[/img]

Decided to whip up my own little ray tracer. Every material absorbs 110% of light, causing this really cool 'dark' effect.

[nullsquared]

[quote=mattz333;18268998]every material absorbs 110% of light.[/quote]

That's not realistic! You can't absorb 110% of light!

[gngbng]

[QUOTE=jA_cOp;18266472]Who the fuck do you think you are dropping in like that, helping with the argument? Nobody asked for your damn opinion on this shit.[/QUOTE]

u mad?

[Robert64]

[QUOTE=Mattz333;18268998][media]http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/144/darkx.png[/media]

Decided to whip up my own little ray tracer. Every material absorbs 110% of light, causing this really cool 'dark' effect.[/QUOTE]

That's almost photo quality!

Almost.

[Xera]

[QUOTE=gngbng;18269237]u mad?[/QUOTE]

u RILED?

[gngbng]

[QUOTE=Xera;18269271]u RILED?[/QUOTE]

u furious?

[Xera]

[QUOTE=gngbng;18269309]u furious?[/QUOTE]

u irate?