What are you working on? v6 - Developers

[url]http://jung3o.com/!-!/cigniter/forum[/url] Just by looking at this. You can tell I'm a terrible designer :v: [editline]28th October 2011[/editline] what would you call yourself if you know css (like almost perfectly) and can't design.

[QUOTE=zzlawlzz;33014938][url]http://jung3o.com/!-!/cigniter/forum[/url] Just by looking at this. You can tell I'm a terrible designer :v: [editline]28th October 2011[/editline] what would you call yourself if you know css (like almost perfectly) and can't design.[/QUOTE] uhhh [url]http://drderp.net/gf/[/url] [editline]28th October 2011[/editline] you're not terrible i am

[QUOTE=zzlawlzz;33014938][url]http://jung3o.com/!-!/cigniter/forum[/url] Just by looking at this. You can tell I'm a terrible designer :v: [editline]28th October 2011[/editline] what would you call yourself if you know css (like almost perfectly) and can't design.[/QUOTE] Front end developer?

[QUOTE=Ac!dL3ak;33015375]uhhh [url]http://drderp.net/gf/[/url] [editline]28th October 2011[/editline] you're not terrible i am[/QUOTE] how does one get 2.21 posts? I must know.

[QUOTE=zzlawlzz;33015480]how does one get 2.21 posts? I must know.[/QUOTE] it's not posts, it's points. I'm too lazy to modify it. Basically, it evaluates your post to see if it's any good or not, and adds the number of points to your total. As you can see, i'm a bad poster.

[QUOTE=TerabyteS_;33012650]Even though web developers are generally an exception to that rule.[/QUOTE] Well yes and no. The description job web developer implies someone who deals mainly with writing front-end/back-end code, and neither knowledge of HTML/CSS/js nor any backend languages will instill design sensibilities. Some people may have more of an innate and intuitive ability to create a nice design without actually having studied design principles, but generally web developers that are also good at design are so because they've made an effort to practice it and/or studied design theory. There's certainly a lot of overlap in this industry, in terms of people who are both web designers and developers (point is they're both, [I]not just web developers[/I]). Strictly speaking I wouldn't say web developers (or people who focus entirely on development) are inherently more artistic than other developers/programmers, there's just generally more overlap in our industry between designers and developers in terms of people that do both. tl;dr: Being a web developer doesn't make you immediately more artistic than any other type of developer/programmer in my opinion. [editline].[/editline] Then again, maybe the exception to the rule is the fact that more web developers try to put effort into design than other developers/programmers.. :v:

[QUOTE=jaybuz;33013964]Today's work: [img]http://speedwaymotorcycles.co.uk/images/geo-icon.png[/img] Feels good man[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/zK4aC.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=BrettJay;33019414]Well yes and no. The description job web developer implies someone who deals mainly with writing front-end/back-end code, and neither knowledge of HTML/CSS/js nor any backend languages will instill design sensibilities. Some people may have more of an innate and intuitive ability to create a nice design without actually having studied design principles, but generally web developers that are also good at design are so because they've made an effort to practice it and/or studied design theory. There's certainly a lot of overlap in this industry, in terms of people who are both web designers and developers (point is they're both, [I]not just web developers[/I]). Strictly speaking I wouldn't say web developers (or people who focus entirely on development) are inherently more artistic than other developers/programmers, there's just generally more overlap in our industry between designers and developers in terms of people that do both. tl;dr: Being a web developer doesn't make you immediately more artistic than any other type of developer/programmer in my opinion. [editline].[/editline] Then again, maybe the exception to the rule is the fact that more web developers try to put effort into design than other developers/programmers.. :v:[/QUOTE]True, True, but along with that if you're a backend developer there'll always be a time when you'll have to do some front end development on your own, even if minimal. If you're a good observer and have good taste you'll probably end up trying to imitate the best trends in UI design. I just realized my reply to the argument is totally pointless :v:

[url]http://www.design-by-izo.com/2011/10/18/what-should-i-look-for-in-a-ui-typeface/[/url] Interesting look at common UI fonts.

[QUOTE=iamacyborg;33020846][url]http://www.design-by-izo.com/2011/10/18/what-should-i-look-for-in-a-ui-typeface/[/url] Interesting look at common UI fonts.[/QUOTE] [url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1040942]The Big Fat Thread of Knowledge[/url] would be a great place to post something like that.

The sexing-up is complete [thumb]http://gabrielecirulli.com/p/20111029-173007.png[/thumb]

[QUOTE=Jelly;33020940][url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1040942]The Big Fat Thread of Knowledge[/url] would be a great place to post something like that.[/QUOTE] Probably, I just feel it's a bit out of place to just post a link there. What that thread really needs is some discussion about each of the resources.

The past month or so I've been working with CodeIgniter and later moved on to Kohana. For those of you who don't know what that is, it's a MVC application. Anyway, I wanted to make a small upload site for myself and a few friends, and I thought that using a heavy framework would be waste of resources, and it got me the idea of creating a small bootstrap framework in php. Check out the source code at [url]https://github.com/miceiken/miceiken-bootstrap[/url] and tell me what you think! I also set up a dummy site on [url]http://me.miceiken.net/[/url] Currently it has a User module using PDO <-> MySQL, a routing module, a message module and a module for helpers.

[IMG]http://puu.sh/7M0t[/IMG] What do you think? I've squared off the containers for images and text. And I have applied an overlay for image elements.

[QUOTE=Fatal-Error;33024115][IMG]http://puu.sh/7M0t[/IMG] What do you think? I've squared off the containers for images and text. And I have applied an overlay for image elements.[/QUOTE] It flickers when I scroll and it hurts my eyes. This is bad.

[t]http://puu.sh/7MfI[/t] I've altered the patern of the overlay. But I think I had better ditch it. It's at 35% opacity now too.

Why do you need/want an overlay anyway? And that last one also flickers (for me at least).

I wanted it to match the textured background on the website.

[QUOTE=Fatal-Error;33025943]I wanted it to match the textured background on the website.[/QUOTE]It's quite pointless. Pictures are pictures, you can't match them to a pattern.

[QUOTE=iamacyborg;33020846][url]http://www.design-by-izo.com/2011/10/18/what-should-i-look-for-in-a-ui-typeface/[/url] Interesting look at common UI fonts.[/QUOTE] That website is so irritating and awkward I'm really shocked that he is capable of making such a great article

[QUOTE=Kopimi;33032420]That website is so irritating and awkward I'm really shocked that he is capable of making such a great article[/QUOTE] He seems to be a print designer, so it really isn't that surprising.

[QUOTE=Kopimi;33032420]That website is so irritating and awkward I'm really shocked that he is capable of making such a great article[/QUOTE] He has nothing to do with the theme, he just picked it. Big deal.

[QUOTE=miceiken;33024053]The past month or so I've been working with CodeIgniter and later moved on to Kohana. For those of you who don't know what that is, it's a MVC application. Anyway, I wanted to make a small upload site for myself and a few friends, and I thought that using a heavy framework would be waste of resources, and it got me the idea of creating a small bootstrap framework in php. Check out the source code at [url]https://github.com/miceiken/miceiken-bootstrap[/url] and tell me what you think! I also set up a dummy site on [url]http://me.miceiken.net/[/url] Currently it has a User module using PDO <-> MySQL, a routing module, a message module and a module for helpers.[/QUOTE] That's pretty nice, might use a bit of it. Thanks!

[QUOTE=miceiken;33024053]The past month or so I've been working with CodeIgniter and later moved on to Kohana. For those of you who don't know what that is, it's a MVC application. Anyway, I wanted to make a small upload site for myself and a few friends, and I thought that using a heavy framework would be waste of resources, and it got me the idea of creating a small bootstrap framework in php. Check out the source code at [url]https://github.com/miceiken/miceiken-bootstrap[/url] and tell me what you think! I also set up a dummy site on [url]http://me.miceiken.net/[/url] Currently it has a User module using PDO <-> MySQL, a routing module, a message module and a module for helpers.[/QUOTE] Is there a name for that style of web design? I see it lot. (And quite like it)

[QUOTE=jetboy;33034287]Is there a name for that style of web design? I see it lot. (And quite like it)[/QUOTE] Some employees at Twitter decided to make and release a CSS framework for making sites [url]http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/[/url] Which you know makes Twitter look the same as every other website using the framework so I don't know who came up with that idea

[QUOTE=jetboy;33034287]Is there a name for that style of web design? I see it lot. (And quite like it)[/QUOTE] Uh, it's pretty standard fare as far as modern web design goes. [url="http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/"]You might want to check this out[/url]. [editline].[/editline] Damnit a2h! :v: [editline].[/editline] But he's right, although it's good for rapid prototyping (it's also very comprehensive in styling all manner of elements), in the end it'll look like every other site that uses it. If you're a back-end developer it's a great resource, but if you're trying to showcase design work, you're better off doing it yourself.

On the note of Twitter's bootstrap bootcrap: I ended up writing a few paragraphs explaining why I think grid-systems are shit, then I replaced it with this sentence. But I just feel like grid-systems are shit. Grids themselves should be used as guides, like rulers, for good design, but not serve as the entire visual backbone for a site, where you just drop in your own shit. You take away the design aspect of design and replace it with cookie cutters.

Thanks everyone.

Pro tip: Web servers don't like junction links.

I honestly don't see what's good in using a css library to make your website look as dull and as generic as possible. It completely wears out the concept of web design.