What are you working on? v6

[bbang]

[QUOTE=Jelly;33447050]If you have to go through lots of effort to fix something then you're writing your code wrong.[/QUOTE]

You cleary never tried to make ot ie6 compatible.

[editline]26th November 2011[/editline]

Websites are veryhard to make with old versions of ie.

[Jelly_]

[QUOTE=TerabyteS_;33447109]This would only be true in the case of simple-as-hell code. In the case when you need to do something special and new you wouldn't be able to provide backwards compatibility (without using JS).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=zzlawlzz;33447130]You cleary never tried to make ot ie6 compatible.

[editline]26th November 2011[/editline]

Websites are veryhard to make with old versions of ie.[/QUOTE]

[img]http://i.imgur.com/dIJaU.png[/img]

This whole thing was compatible with IE 5.5 and 6. All the effects are there, from the gradients to the box shadows. I did it in less then an hour and the CSS is in total over 1,000 lines long. Excuse the crappy logo, I'm using Ubuntu and I haven't made it compatible with it yet. Again that would take like a minute. You're all just using it as an excuse for being lazy.

[Catdaemon]

It's pointless to support IE6. Nobody really uses it except in corporate environments and usually you're not even allowed to browse the web there and the users [b]know[/b] their computers are at fault simply because work computers blow. Not even google support it.

What do you guys think of this transition concept? It works better if your scrolling is smoothed by a trackpad or your browser but I think it works okay with a mouse wheel.

[url]http://what.bitcanvas.co.uk/[/url]
(Ignore page load time plz)

[Jelly_]

What I'm saying is, if you can, do it. It's really not that hard.

[Catdaemon]

[QUOTE=Jelly;33447340]What I'm saying is, if you can, do it. It's really not that hard.[/QUOTE]

well yeah

If you can cook, cooking is easy. Unless you're cooking for vegetarians, then you have to make them a special dish because they don't support meat.

[Jelly_]

[QUOTE=Catdaemon;33447359]well yeah

If you can cook, cooking is easy. Unless you're cooking for vegetarians, then you have to make them a special dish because they don't support meat.[/QUOTE]

Or you could just cook the dish with meat in the first place, regardless of if you're cooking for vegetarians.

[TerabyteS_]

[QUOTE=Jelly;33447247][img]http://i.imgur.com/dIJaU.png[/img]

This whole thing was compatible with IE 5.5 and 6. All the effects are there, from the gradients to the box shadows. I did it in less then an hour and the CSS is in total over 1,000 lines long. Excuse the crappy logo, I'm using Ubuntu and I haven't made it compatible with it yet. Again that would take like a minute. You're all just using it as an excuse for being lazy.[/QUOTE]

That's simple compared to something like this:

[img]http://gabrielecirulli.com/p/20111126-171727.png[/img]

The search box and logo are centered vertically on the page, a thing that is not possible in IE7 and IE6 without using JS. Plus those buttons on the search box used to give all kinds of problems even on modern browsers, I wouldn't even want to know what happens on IE7 or lower.

[Catdaemon]

[QUOTE=Jelly;33447371]Or you could just cook the dish with meat in the first place, regardless of if you're cooking for vegetarians.[/QUOTE]

But then the dish is shit. I personally like meat, why should I have to suffer?

EDIT: Oh I read that as without. But the vegetarians constitution disagrees violently with my meat products :v:

Bringing this forward as nobody will see it otherwise:
[quote]
What do you guys think of this transition concept? It works better if your scrolling is smoothed by a trackpad or your browser but I think it works okay with a mouse wheel.

[url]http://what.bitcanvas.co.uk/[/url]
(Ignore page load time plz)[/QUOTE]

[Jelly_]

[QUOTE=TerabyteS_;33447374]That's simple compared to something like this:

[img]http://gabrielecirulli.com/p/20111126-171727.png[/img]

The search box and logo are centered vertically on the page, a thing that is not possible in IE7 and IE6 without using JS.[/QUOTE]

Don't have it centred on the page then for IE users. Find the most common browser resolution and set that as the default. Making something cross browser doesn't mean making it an exact clone.

[TerabyteS_]

[QUOTE=Jelly;33447418]Don't have it centred on the page then for IE users. Find the most common browser resolution and set that as the default. Making something cross browser doesn't mean making it an exact clone.[/QUOTE]It already wraps to the top in IE7. That's not the problem; the problem is that I could never center it in IE6 or IE7 without js and setting it to a common resolution would be a very stupid thing to do.

[Jelly_]

[QUOTE=TerabyteS_;33447481]It already wraps to the top in IE7. That's not the problem; the problem is that I could never center it in IE6 or IE7 without js and setting it to a common resolution would be a very stupid thing to do.[/QUOTE]

Why is it a stupid thing to do?

[Fatal-Error]

[QUOTE=TerabyteS_;33447481]It already wraps to the top in IE7. That's not the problem; the problem is that I could never center it in IE6 or IE7 without js and setting it to a common resolution would be a very stupid thing to do.[/QUOTE]

I've never bothered optimizing for IE6/7 but I'm guessing the code below doesn't work on it?

[html]
.searchbox {
position:absolute;
top:50%;
left:50%;
width:400px;
height:50px;
margin-left:-200px;
margin-top:-25px;
}
[/html]

[TerabyteS_]

[QUOTE=Fatal-Error;33447667]I've never bothered optimizing for IE6/7 but I'm guessing the code below doesn't work on it?

[html]
.searchbox {
position:absolute;
top:50%;
left:50%;
width:400px;
height:50px;
margin-left:-200px;
margin-top:-25px;
}
[/html][/QUOTE]
Using that code would require me to change the entire structure of the page and wouldn't allow me to do what I need to do with the rest of the page

[Fatal-Error]

What do you want to do with the rest of the page, layout wise?

[TerabyteS_]

[QUOTE=Fatal-Error;33447779]What do you want to do with the rest of the page, layout wise?[/QUOTE]I cannot say yet.

[Jelly_]

[QUOTE=TerabyteS_;33447732]Using that code would require me to change the entire structure of the page and wouldn't allow me to do what I need to do with the rest of the page[/QUOTE]

You should be doing it his way in the first place. By changing it a bit you should be able to make it as flexible as your current solution.

[Catdaemon]

[QUOTE=Fatal-Error;33447667]I've never bothered optimizing for IE6/7 but I'm guessing the code below doesn't work on it?

[html]
.searchbox {
position:absolute;
top:50%;
left:50%;
width:400px;
height:50px;
margin-left:-200px;
margin-top:-25px;
}
[/html][/QUOTE]

Since when does top:50% work without a fixed height parent? Especially in IE6

[Dotmister]

[QUOTE=TerabyteS_;33446789]When making a website whose only objective is entertainment and which should promote the use of new technologies (and which will most probably be visited by up-to-date browsers) is it wiser to:

• Support older browsers, up to IE7 or
• Show the users of old browsers (IE6, IE7, IE8) a warning saying that the web is moving ahead and if they update their browsers they'll help developers' job?
[/QUOTE]

IE8 is not an out-dated browser. It's really easy to get websites looking good on it, the only thing is that CSS3 isn't supported. But then the whole idea of most of the CSS3 effects was that they were optional effects to make the website experience better, not required effects to make the website usable.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you can't get your site to work on IE8 it's your fault not your users.

[TerabyteS_]

[QUOTE=Dotmister;33448012]IE8 is not an out-dated browser. It's really easy to get websites looking good on it, the only thing is that CSS3 isn't supported. But then the whole idea of most of the CSS3 effects was that they were optional effects to make the website experience better, not required effects to make the website usable.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you can't get your site to work on IE8 it's your fault not your users.[/QUOTE]

I was referring to browsers below IE8. IE8 is fine per-se.

[editline]26th November 2011[/editline]

[img]http://gabrielecirulli.com/p/20111126-184142.png[/img]

[img]http://gabrielecirulli.com/p/20111126-184357.png[/img]

[Fatal-Error]

[QUOTE=Catdaemon;33447898]Since when does top:50% work without a fixed height parent? Especially in IE6[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fatal-Error;33447667]I've never bothered optimizing for IE6/7 but I'm guessing the code below doesn't work on it?[/QUOTE]

Would body { width:100%; height:100%; } not work?

[aerochug]

[url]http://hassanc.phpfogapp.com/[/url]

Made this simple comment app because I wanted to try my hand at making something with AJAX + PHP (no refreshing needed)

[swift and shift]

phpfog

[aerochug]

[QUOTE=swift and shift;33452269]phpfog[/QUOTE]

What about it? It's my first time using it since I was looking for a service similar to PagodaBox.

[landocalrissian]

Oh wow, that reminds me of super snail and that incident with PHPFog... what ever happened to that?

EDIT: Heh, managed to get the comment system to show Á and then make it dissapear.. wierd.. that is one glitchy character I used..

[swift and shift]

[QUOTE=Adzter;33452494]Oh wow, that reminds me of super snail and that incident with PHPFog... what ever happened to that?

EDIT: Heh, managed to get the comment system to show Á and then make it dissapear.. wierd.. that is one glitchy character I used..[/QUOTE]

Try Iñtërnâtiônàlizætiøn

[adamjon858]

[QUOTE=zzlawlzz;33447130]You cleary never tried to make ot ie6 compatible.

[editline]26th November 2011[/editline]

Websites are veryhard to make with old versions of ie.[/QUOTE]

I follow google's philosophy and only support one version back.

[url]http://www.winrumors.com/google-apps-phasing-out-support-for-internet-explorer-7-on-august-1/[/url]

I've never had an issue with this and I usually do enterprise app development.

[Tezzanator92]

I think you have to draw the line somewhere or web technologies would never evolve as no one would want to use them in fear of creating extra work for themselves supporting older browsers.
Unless of course you are developing some intranet thing where for some ungodly reason users will be using Netscape Navigator

This is why I use analytics. 2% of visitors over the last month were using IE6 - That was just under 2k. 1 person used IE5.... One.

[TerabyteS_]

[QUOTE=Tezzanator92;33453388]I think you have to draw the line somewhere or web technologies would never evolve as no one would want to use them in fear of creating extra work for themselves supporting older browsers.
Unless of course you are developing some intranet thing where for some ungodly reason users will be using Netscape Navigator

This is why I use analytics. 2% of visitors over the last month were using IE6 - That was just under 2k. 1 person used IE5.... One.[/QUOTE]

I don't even understand how they manage to get such old browsers. It's.. hard.

[bbang]

[QUOTE=TerabyteS_;33454020]I don't even understand how they manage to get such old browsers. It's.. hard.[/QUOTE]

format your computer with win xp

[TerabyteS_]

Is there a way to make a div fill the rest of the vertical space not taken by other divs? I guess not, right?