There are tons of development languages, HTML is needed for basic things like title tags, and formatting (to a point) but for the most part you don't need it, especially because it's not a robust language at all. Alternatively, you can use things like:
Adobe ColdFusion
Microsoft Silverlight
.NET
Ajax
Jscript/Jquery
Ruby
Java
Python
Perl
PHP
Again, the only reason you see HTML when you read the page source, is because that is what is fed into the browser from the web server.
[QUOTE=faze;21877645]There are tons of development languages, HTML is needed for basic things like title tags, and formatting (to a point) but for the most part you don't need it, especially because it's not a robust language at all. Alternatively, you can use things like:
Adobe ColdFusion
Microsoft Silverlight
.NET
Ajax
Jscript/Jquery
Ruby
Java
Python
Perl
PHP
Again, the only reason you see HTML when you read the page source, is because that is what is fed into the browser from the web server.[/QUOTE]
Saying you don't need HTML for the most part to create a website is like saying that you don't need a steering wheel or gas pedal to drive a car.
The ONLY way that statement can be remotely true is if you're building a website using Flash or Silverlight.
Also, you listed Ajax as a language... What?
[QUOTE=faze;21877645]There are tons of development languages, HTML is needed for basic things like title tags, and formatting (to a point) but for the most part you don't need it, especially because it's not a robust language at all. Alternatively, you can use things like:
Adobe ColdFusion
Microsoft Silverlight
.NET
Ajax
Jscript/Jquery
Ruby
Java
Python
Perl
PHP
Again, the only reason you see HTML when you read the page source, is because that is what is fed into the browser from the web server.[/QUOTE]
Just go away.
You know nothing
[QUOTE=turb_;21894880]Just go away.
You know nothing[/QUOTE]
Probably a troll.
[QUOTE=turb_;21894880]Just go away.
You know nothing[/QUOTE]
I make a living as a Sys. Admin and developer for NASA. Stop.
[editline]05:55AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;21890515]Saying you don't need HTML for the most part to create a website is like saying that you don't need a steering wheel or gas pedal to drive a car.
The ONLY way that statement can be remotely true is if you're building a website using Flash or Silverlight.
Also, you listed Ajax as a language... What?[/QUOTE]
I can develop a website using ColdFusion for 99% of the project. Believe me or not I could care less. I was putting in my two cents, I don't need to be attacked by you.
We all know that the government only hires the brightest. :downs:
[QUOTE=andersonmat;21895846]We all know that the government only hires the brightest. :downs:[/QUOTE]
[url]www.brightfusehosting.com[/url]
Side company, almost all PHP/jquery/jscript.
[QUOTE=faze;21895858][url]www.brightfusehosting.com[/url]
Side company, almost all PHP/jquery/jscript.[/QUOTE]
Cool, full of tables and deprecated HTML.
[QUOTE=faze;21895839]I make a living as a Sys. Admin and developer for NASA. Stop.[/QUOTE]
where's the bullshit button?
[QUOTE=turb_;21896208]where's the bullshit button?[/QUOTE]
What?
[QUOTE=andersonmat;21895998]Cool, full of tables and deprecated HTML.[/QUOTE]
What's wrong with tables?
Here's why you're full of shit:
1. An organisation the size of NASA would not make developers perform sys admin tasks, and vice versa. Sure it happens in small startups, but definitely not at NASA
2. Your shit host website is not all PHP/JS, there's HTML there as well
3. It doesn't seem like you know the difference between server technologies and browser technologies.
[editline]10:09PM[/editline]
4.
[QUOTE=faze;21877645]There are tons of development languages, HTML is needed for basic things like title tags, and formatting (to a point) but for the most part you don't need it, especially because it's not a robust language at all[/quote]
[QUOTE=turb_;21896991]Here's why you're full of shit:
1. An organisation the size of NASA would not make developers perform sys admin tasks, and vice versa. Sure it happens in small startups, but definitely not at NASA
2. Your shit host website is not all PHP/JS, there's HTML there as well
3. It doesn't seem like you know the difference between server technologies and browser technologies.
[editline]10:09PM[/editline]
4.[/QUOTE]
1. I'm contracted through Honeywell. I don't know what the fuck other proof you need, or why the hell you even care.
2. No shit.
3. There's a huge difference between each, how stupid does somebody have to be to not know what the difference is between browsers and servers?
[QUOTE=faze;21897120]3. There's a huge difference between each, how stupid does somebody have to be to not know what the difference is between browsers and servers?[/QUOTE]
:frogdowns: just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
[QUOTE=Cluckyx;21897147]:frogdowns: just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=turb_;21896991]Here's why you're full of shit:
1. An organisation the size of NASA would not make developers perform sys admin tasks, and vice versa. Sure it happens in small startups, but definitely not at NASA
2. Your shit host website is not all PHP/JS, there's HTML there as well
3. It doesn't seem like you know the difference between server technologies and browser technologies.
[editline]10:09PM[/editline]
4.[/QUOTE]
Also,
[URL=http://www.speedtest.net][IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/result/812011785.png[/IMG][/URL]
Not sure what else you want me to do, believe me or not. I work at Goddard Space Flight Center, Building 25 in Lanham MD.
[QUOTE=faze;21897167]Also,
[URL=http://www.speedtest.net][IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/result/812011785.png[/IMG][/URL]
Not sure what else you want me to do, believe me or not. I work at Goddard Space Flight Center, Building 25 in Lanham MD.[/QUOTE]
oh man can i suck your dick please please please
[QUOTE=faze;21896736]What?
What's wrong with tables?[/QUOTE]
People are being pretty harsh on you, but tables are [B]terrible [/B]for user friendliness. Common example of why they are so bad is people with screen readers, as they hover over a part of your site that's contained in a table they will get cell 1, row 1 blah blah blah output to them, with div's however they simply get the content what is contained inside the div. That's one of the main reasons why they are so bad.
Tables are for storing tabular data, websites aren't tabular data.
[QUOTE=faze;21895858][url]www.brightfusehosting.com[/url]
Side company, almost all PHP/jquery/jscript.[/QUOTE]
<li><a href="#">Folder 3.1.1</a>
<ul>
<li><a href="#">Sub Item 3.1.1.1</a></li>
<li><a href="#">Sub Item 3.1.1.2</a></li>
<li><a href="#">Sub Item 3.1.1.3</a></li>
<li><a href="#">Sub Item 3.1.1.4</a></li>
<li><a href="#">Sub Item 3.1.1.5</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
-->
and <font face="verdana" size="2" color="000000">
cool.
[b]EDITED[/b]
[QUOTE=faze;21897167]Also,
[URL=http://www.speedtest.net][IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/result/812011785.png[/IMG][/URL]
Not sure what else you want me to do, believe me or not. I work at Goddard Space Flight Center, Building 25 in Lanham MD.[/QUOTE]
Nasa's internet is shit slow.
This thread is now about speedtest.net
[URL=http://www.speedtest.net][IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/result/813686443.png[/IMG][/URL]
using wireless
[URL=http://www.speedtest.net][IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/result/813727479.png[/IMG][/URL]
[editline]10:03PM[/editline]
and yes im using wireless
:saddowns:
I should of mentioned I'm almost right next to the epithet though :rolleye:
[QUOTE=faze;21896736]What's wrong with tables?[/QUOTE]
Ideally, presentation and structure should be kept separate when building websites. HTML is a markup language where the semantic structure of a site should be, and the CSS controls all presentational aspects of a page.
That way, the site degrades gracefully on screen readers and other devices. Tables aren't good for accessibility; nor is having a bunch of purely decorative images embedded in the markup.
[QUOTE=nivek;21552220]Make a big fucking .jpg and just place it there, oh shit that'll still use html, looks like you're fucked and theirs no half assed easy way for jackasses who are too lazy for learning the simplest language.[/QUOTE]
you obviously don't know shit if you're telling him to use a jpeg
[QUOTE=faze;21895858][url]www.brightfusehosting.com[/url]
Side company, almost all PHP/jquery/jscript.[/QUOTE]
for spacing, tables, font tags, good lord, you really don't know what you're doing do you?
[QUOTE=ProWaffle;21933823]you obviously don't know shit if you're telling him to use a jpeg[/QUOTE]
There is nothing wrong with jpg, and if you think otherwise you don't know what you're talking about. Certain image formats are better for certain types of images, and jpg actually happens to be the best option more often than png.
[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;21935671] for spacing, tables, font tags, good lord, you really don't know what you're doing do you?
...[/QUOTE]
The page is also using the HTML4 transitional DOCTYPE, making it render in quirks mode.
What the fuck is up with this thread? The [b]first post after the OP should be [i]no[/i][/b] and this thread should have died. There's something wrong here. People care too much about their post counts or something.
[QUOTE=XCV;21936167]What the fuck is up with this thread? The [b]first post after the OP should be [i]no[/i][/b] and this thread should have died. There's something wrong here. People care too much about their post counts or something.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/showpost.php?p=21501149&postcount=10[/url]
Didn't get in quick enough
faze you don't work for NASA, shut the hell up.
Also your [url]http://www.brightfusehosting.com/[/url] is a joke.
You didn't even customize your WHMCS customer system.
Not impressed.
Something I have noticed in the past number of years is,
Those who brag about what they do, usually aren't that great at it,
and those who are the best for the most part keep their mouths shut and don't boast.
And that applies to almost everything, I'm not saying I'm good but you don't see my website linking on my facebook, Cause I don't care what anyone else thinks if i'm paying my bills.
Yeah okay you work for NASA, and I'm an international spy with a 15 inch cock.
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