Visual C++ IDE? - Developers

[QUOTE=catch33;22442855]So I always wanted to learn programming properly (I used to make applications in Visual Basic but I have limited knowledge, most of which has been forgotten) and C++ seems like a decent choice although I have one gripe. With Visual Basic creating an application is straight forward; create your GUI and then program what each control will do. It seems with C++ this is not such an easy task - I have never seen a screenshot of a C++ IDE that lets you create an application in such a simple way; it seems to be 100% text base. My question is basically if there is an IDE that allows such programming? How do programmers who use C++ make forms with controls on them? And secondly, if such program does not exist, why has no-one made it yet? Help is appreciated.[/QUOTE] You've got it backwards. Programming IS text-based, anything that lets you plop a screen down and requires nothing other than putting some simple script in for the elements is skipping some of the most fundamental parts. If you don't want to put the effort into learning C++ well enough to do this without a GUI editor then you shouldn't be stepping up to C++ yet. The entire point of C++ over another language is flexibility, speed and low level access. You won't get the flexibility, and the speed won't matter for anything like this. Low level access for something like this will undoubtedly not be used. I'm not trying to insult you or anything, I'm just wondering why you're going for C++ when it's of (almost) no use to you at this level. The advantage of programs that simply pop out a GUI for you to work with is it can be done quickly, and if you don't need the advantages of C++ then why use it? You'd only be slowing down your development time.

[QUOTE=Chad Mobile;22476604]Why don't you stop jumping on the fuckwad bandwagon and actually read my post instead of :hurr: :w00t: :downswords: :protarget: 'ing all over the place.[/QUOTE] He stated he wanted to use C++, and you tell him HURR USE C#. When someone asks about a specific language, it'd be more helpful to give them advice regarding that particular language. If I wanted help with Python, I wouldn't want advice about Java.

[QUOTE=robowurmz;22507097]He stated he wanted to use C++, and you tell him HURR USE C#. When someone asks about a specific language, it'd be more helpful to give them advice regarding that particular language. If I wanted help with Python, I wouldn't want advice about Java.[/QUOTE] You're only saying that because it's Chad; somebody suggested C# earlier and that went down perfectly well.

[QUOTE=Chris220;22508644]You're only saying that because it's Chad; somebody suggested C# earlier and that went down perfectly well.[/QUOTE] Yeah pretty much. This guy does not know what he's talking about so he should not be suggesting things. It's not necessarily that he was wrong in this case, it's that it was wrong of him to make suggestion as if he were at least proficient in the matter.

Doesn't Microsoft Visual C++ Express have the form designer as part of it? The Express version is free as well.

[QUOTE=robowurmz;22507097]He stated he wanted to use C++, and you tell him HURR USE C#. When someone asks about a specific language, it'd be more helpful to give them advice regarding that particular language. If I wanted help with Python, I wouldn't want advice about Java.[/QUOTE] It's funny because you didn't read the thread. Please [IMG]http://i50.tinypic.com/ju917l.gif[/IMG]

It's funny because he's right. Plus you are hatin' on him why usually being hated yourself around here; also funny.

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[QUOTE=explosiveegg;22509833]Doesn't Microsoft Visual C++ Express have the form designer as part of it? The Express version is free as well.[/QUOTE] i seem to remember such a thing too. although i wouldn't know, since i use C#.