• Visual Studio ooor...
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[QUOTE=Jallen;22662746]Convenience, faster development. Essentially you have it the wrong way round. It should be "Never really seen a reason not to use an IDE"[/QUOTE] Flexibility, power, convenience, faster development.
[QUOTE=blankthemuffin;22674809]Flexibility, power, convenience, faster development.[/QUOTE] How so?
An IDE is a blunt force instrument, it works fine until you want to do anything different. Like using a different unsupported language, or using a different build system. When you use an IDE, you sacrifice power and flexibility for immediate results and depending on the situation that can aid or hinder the developer. [editline]03:09PM[/editline] As I said before, I also disagree with people learning using an IDE, since it hides the underlying complexity. Note 'hides' not 'removes'. I think a new programmer should at least learn how to compile things from scratch with their compiler before they jump in and start using an IDE.
xemacs on Linux xemacs on Windows vim on servers or embedded devices
[QUOTE=shill le 2nd;22671276]You don't use [url=http://www.vim.org/download.php]vim on Windows[/url]?[/QUOTE] I no longer have Windows. I started using vim after installing Ubuntu.
[QUOTE=blankthemuffin;22675119]An IDE is a blunt force instrument, it works fine until you want to do anything different. Like using a different unsupported language, or using a different build system. When you use an IDE, you sacrifice power and flexibility for immediate results and depending on the situation that can aid or hinder the developer. [editline]03:09PM[/editline] As I said before, I also disagree with people learning using an IDE, since it hides the underlying complexity. Note 'hides' not 'removes'. I think a new programmer should at least learn how to compile things from scratch with their compiler before they jump in and start using an IDE.[/QUOTE] This is true but just because someone uses an IDE doesn't mean that's ALL they use.
I never said it was. I use IDE's too.
[QUOTE=MADmarine;22647781]I use Visual Studio, it does all I need so I can't say I've been tempted to try anything else.[/QUOTE]
For some reason I keep reading it as "Visual Studio odor..." :v: Anyway, I use Code::Blocks, I have tried Visual Studio, but I didn't like it much.
If you're a C# Visual Studio (Std/Pro) user, you _MUST_ get ReSharper from JetBrains. [url]http://www.jetbrains.com/resharper/features/index.html[/url] Code navigation and refactoring make you so much more productive, can't code C# without it now :)
[QUOTE=raccoon12;22674879]How so?[/QUOTE] How is a series of individual tools *not* more flexible and potentially powerful than using an IDE? This is the old debate again. Using an IDE certainly has advantages, but customizing your own not-as-integrated dev env has its perks too.
Nice poll youg got there.
Using a poll to decide which IDE to use is a horrible idea. It's all about taste, and which features matter to you.
Visual Studio when I'm working on C++ or C#, otherwise Eclipse for anything else.
XCode baby!! :v:
[QUOTE=Jawalt;22715225]Using a poll to decide which IDE to use is a horrible idea. It's all about taste, and which features matter to you.[/QUOTE] It's not necessarily about deciding on an IDE to use: it may well just be out of interest: it's the sort of thing I'd do!
[QUOTE=Jawalt;22715225]Using a poll to decide which IDE to use is a horrible idea. It's all about taste, and which features matter to you.[/QUOTE] pretty bad poll anyway. It reminds me of those registration forms that ask, Country: [LIST] [*]USA [*]Other [/LIST]
[QUOTE=st0rmforce;22724440]pretty bad poll anyway. It reminds me of those registration forms that ask, Country: [LIST] [*]USA [*]Other [/LIST][/QUOTE] The difference is that in those forms it's actually only necessary to know the specific country if you're in the US.
[QUOTE=esalaka;22725742]The difference is that in those forms it's actually only necessary to know the specific country if you're in the US.[/QUOTE] What? If you mean state or province I can think of like 5 other countries on the top of my head.
[QUOTE=Jawalt;22727762]What? If you mean state or province I can think of like 5 other countries on the top of my head.[/QUOTE] No, I meant that they just need to know if you live in the US. If you do, thing a happens and if you don't, thing b happens. Although it'd be smarter to ask "Do you live in the USA?"
Yeah there are good reasons, personally I have all my registration forms exit as soon as somebody chooses the US.
haha that was funny!
Visual Studio...!
Vim vim vim vim vim.
[QUOTE=nos217;22782818]Vim vim vim vim vim.[/QUOTE] vim vim vim
[QUOTE=blankthemuffin;22650135]Hehe. Autotools isn't as bad as it looks I've decided. Well it is, but it's easy enough to use. The biggest problem is it's so old that there is so much stuff on the web about the old bits it's hard to find good information on the new bits. Much like OpenGL really.[/QUOTE] Autotools isn't that bad for smallish projects. I've never really used it for a large project. I did however convert the Lugaru source code to use autotools around the same time some other people converted it to CMake. It compiled for me, and it had some possible issues, but overall it wasn't so bad.
dev c++ and MinGW as a compiler
[QUOTE=Janek566;22797808]dev c++ and MinGW as a compiler[/QUOTE] Bloodshed Dev-C++ has not been updated for 5 years. Time to upgrade.
Dev C++, the ultimate nostalgia generator.
[QUOTE]Bloodshed Dev-C++ has not been updated for 5 years. Time to upgrade.[/QUOTE] What a terrible reason. You may be right - there are better ide's but for 99% of people here and your funny projects dev is more than enough ;P
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