[QUOTE=HubmaN;27988550]Bit of an arbitrary distinction - one could easily do cat plaintext | encode > ciphertext and it would work seamlessly for cat `which ls` | encode > ciphertext. There's no shame in interpreting binary files as chars.[/QUOTE]
Maybe he meant that the result should be always plaintext when encoding plaintext?
Assuming plaintext is always in an eight-bit charset, anyway.
Between C# and Java which would be better learn
[QUOTE=Doritos_Man;27988650]Between C# and Java which would be better learn[/QUOTE]
Which one do you [B]want[/B] to learn?
[QUOTE=esalaka;27988605]Maybe he meant that the result should be always plaintext when encoding plaintext?
Assuming plaintext is always in an eight-bit charset, anyway.[/QUOTE]
Good point - I'm lazy, so od dumps count as plaintext. Hurr.
[QUOTE=geel9;27987252]Holy shit, you actually have an IDE installed?[/QUOTE]
So, when will you actually get an Android phone?
[QUOTE=Doritos_Man;27988650]Between C# and Java which would be better learn[/QUOTE]
Between a Ford and a Mercedes which would be better to learn to drive?
And now don't expand on this :iiaca:, saying that one is faster or safer built or some shit, it's not a perfect, linear analogy.
I'd prefer C#, because its language features are more familiar to my C++ background.
More people in this forum use C# I think, so if you want some help from this community that might be the better choice.
But basically you can just flip a coin.
[QUOTE=Doritos_Man;27988650]Between C# and Java which would be better learn[/QUOTE]
Do you want people to have to have .NET Framework and to have to download your application to run it, or do you want universal applications that can run on in a web browser?
[QUOTE=Layley;27988797]Do you want people to have to have .NET Framework and to have to download your application to run it, or do you want universal applications that can run on in a web browser?[/QUOTE]
Let's use another category to decide a language - ownership:
Do you want a language with a lagging community process and disinterested owner, or a company that's committed to adding features and forward development?
Or another category - standard library depth. And so on.
I am just starting to learn programming
I have heard C# is pretty close to Java also
Since I have messed around with Java a bit
I will probably stick around with it
Now what should I start with to learn Java
I have already done the basic Hello, World project
Get a book / read a good set of tutorials.
[code]x = 6 + 7 + 2 * 3 / 9;[/code]
[code]Tokenising...
Built list of 13 tokens!
Parsing...
Parsing complete with no errors.
Push: 6 {number}
Push: 7 {number}
Add
Push: 2 {number}
Add
Push: 3 {number}
Multiply
Push: 9 {number}
Divide
Pop: x {variable}
[/code]
Next up, brackets...
[QUOTE=Layley;27988797]Do you want people to have to have .NET Framework and to have to download your application to run it, or do you want universal applications that can run on in a web browser?[/QUOTE]
You do realise you need to install the java runtime to use java programs right?
[QUOTE=bootv2;27989377]most, if not all computers have that installed.[/QUOTE]
Same thing can be said about Net framework (on windows machines)
If C# continues to gain the popularity that it is getting at the moment then I'm pretty sure that Mono will be installed almost as frequently as the Java run-time on non-Windows computers.
Whats the best C++ window/form creation library?
I want it to be fairly simple as well as lightweight.
Also im developing on linux
Oh and dont like QT as it seems quite bloated and its licence if confusing for non opensource projects
QT is LGPL, which basically means that you can use it in closed-sourced projects if you don't modify QT itself.
Anyways, for whenever I am searching for one I've made a mental note about libFOX. Apart from that I think GTK+ is the most popular in the Linux-world. If you only deploy the application in Linux-systems you won't have to care whether it's slim or bloated, since you'll find it pretty much installed everywhere and thus can simply link dynamically.
[QUOTE=Richy19;27989584]Oh and dont like QT as it seems quite bloated[/QUOTE]
Qt is great. It's also one of the only libraries that render native controls on Windows and OS X, with wxWidgets.
How is it "bloated"?
[QUOTE=Layley;27988797]Do you want people to have to have .NET Framework and to have to download your application to run it, or do you want universal applications that can run on in a web browser?[/QUOTE]
Shut up, almost every language requires a runtime environment, VC++ even needs one, Java requires its own runtime environment, so does .NET.
[QUOTE=ZeekyHBomb;27989714]Anyways, for whenever I am searching for one I've made a mental note about libFOX.[/QUOTE]
Is libFox x11 only?
I tried compiling it but it kept giving errors about x11
Since comparing C# and Java
C# looks like a better choice
Few questions though
Is C# case sensitive?
What are the major game libraries for C#
And what do IDE do I require
[QUOTE=Richy19;27989584]Whats the best C++ window/form creation library?
I want it to be fairly simple as well as lightweight.
Also im developing on linux
Oh and dont like QT as it seems quite bloated and its licence if confusing for non opensource projects[/QUOTE]
wxWidgets? Pretty much the only alternative on Linux is GTK, and wx is just a cross platform wrapper over that. QT is your only choice if you want to develop natively for KDE.
[QUOTE=Richy19;27989584]Whats the best C++ window/form creation library?
I want it to be fairly simple as well as lightweight.
Also im developing on linux
Oh and dont like QT as it seems quite bloated and its licence if confusing for non opensource projects[/QUOTE]
Hum you can't use Qt if your not at least posting the source code with your project. However, Qt's a very powerful library and it's very easy to learn so I would strongly recommend it. The best case scenario for a Qt application is when you don't use it as your main application but more like an editor or a tool, then you'll only have to post the "Qt" part of your source.
[QUOTE=Doritos_Man;27990223]Since comparing C# and Java
C# looks like a better choice
Few questions though
Is C# case sensitive?
What are the major game libraries for C#
And what do IDE do I require[/QUOTE]
yes
XNA is the main one
C# Express (Free) or Visual Studio, but you can also use Mono, DotGNU, etc.
Where can I download XNA
I googled and It came up with the Windows Phone Development
[QUOTE=Doritos_Man;27990223]Is C# case sensitive?
[highlight]Yes[/highlight]
What are the major game libraries for C#
[highlight]XNA for 2D and 3D games, and sfml.net for 2D games[/highlight]
And what do IDE do I require
[highlight]I recommend Visual C# Express[/highlight][/QUOTE]
Check highlights.
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[QUOTE=Doritos_Man;27990281]Where can I download XNA
I googled and It came up with the Windows Phone Development[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.microsoft.com/express/Downloads/#2010-Visual-CS]Visual C# 2010 Express[/url]
[url=http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=9AC86ECA-206F-4274-97F2-EF6C8B1F478F]XNA Game Studio 4[/url]
[QUOTE=Dj-J3;27990284]Check highlights.
[editline]11th February 2011[/editline]
:ninja:[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CarlBooth;27990273]yes
XNA is the main one
C# Express (Free) or Visual Studio, but you can also use Mono, DotGNU, etc.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Guys
[editline]11th February 2011[/editline]
Should I install the Microsoft SQL Server 2008 Express Service Pack 1?
[QUOTE=Doritos_Man;27990318]Thanks Guys
[editline]11th February 2011[/editline]
Should I install the Microsoft SQL Server 2008 Express Service Pack 1?[/QUOTE]
Probably won't use it unless you intend to work with databases. (afaik)
[QUOTE=Dj-J3;27990385]Probably won't use it unless you intend to work with databases. (afaik)[/QUOTE]
I can always install it later if I need it
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