Making a living out of freelancing - anyone here doing it?
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Tech illiterate clients will be like "wtf does this mean"
[QUOTE=Alcapwne;31234202]yeah but won't tech illiterate clients be like "whoah valid html"[/QUOTE]
I've worked with 150+ clients/websites. I've never had a site with 100% "validated" HTML. I've only ever heard that one time and I just told him it was more of a fancy buzzword that didn't matter. What matters is that it shows up like it's supposed to. Even if you program the website in BASIC and use tables...your client isn't going to give a shit.
The reasons we use CSS, HTML5, divs etc. is because it makes websites easier to build and maintain. Your clients only care how it shows up. You could have a brilliant website but if it doesn't show up in IE6 and that's what your client uses, you're fucked.
Browser Support > Validation, but even browser support isn't that important. I only support IE7 and up and quite often if IE7 doesn't support something that's not entirely necessary I'll ignore it.
[QUOTE=adamjon858;31234645]I've worked with 150+ clients/websites. I've never had a site with 100% "validated" HTML. I've only ever heard that one time and I just told him it was more of a fancy buzzword that didn't matter. What matters is that it shows up like it's supposed to. Even if you program the website in BASIC and use tables...your client isn't going to give a shit.
The reasons we use CSS, HTML5, divs etc. is because it makes websites easier to build and maintain. Your clients only care how it shows up. You could have a brilliant website but if it doesn't show up in IE6 and that's what your client uses, you're fucked.
Browser Support > Validation, but even browser support isn't that important. I only support IE7 and up and quite often if IE7 doesn't support something that's not entirely necessary I'll ignore it.[/QUOTE]
oh yeah yeah I know that valid stuff doesn't matter much, but isn't it just like a sort of qualification from the client's point of view?
No because half of your clients won't even know what HTML is
[QUOTE=adamjon858;31234645]I've worked with 150+ clients/websites. I've never had a site with 100% "validated" HTML. I've only ever heard that one time and I just told him it was more of a fancy buzzword that didn't matter. What matters is that it shows up like it's supposed to. Even if you program the website in BASIC and use tables...your client isn't going to give a shit.
The reasons we use CSS, HTML5, divs etc. is because it makes websites easier to build and maintain. Your clients only care how it shows up. You could have a brilliant website but if it doesn't show up in IE6 and that's what your client uses, you're fucked.
Browser Support > Validation, but even browser support isn't that important. I only support IE7 and up and quite often if IE7 doesn't support something that's not entirely necessary I'll ignore it.[/QUOTE]
That philosophy might work for small free-lance projects but in a larger-scaled project accessibility is EVERYTHING. If your syntax is valid, properly designed to 'degrade' nicely and includes the proper markup then you don't leave out any users, whether or not they're using a browser you want them to. (Let's not forget that some people browse the web, even though they're blind.)
Yeah and doing all of that has nothing to do with whether or not your code validates. That is what QA and proper testing are for. Sure validation can help you catch random errors, but just because your code validates doesn't mean it's written well or that it works the way it's intended to work across all the browsers you need to reach.
Anyone who thinks validation is anything more than a glorified spellcheck for HTML/CSS doesn't know what they are talking about.
Not even a spellcheck, validation is like the readability level test in Microsoft Word 97 (props to those who get the reference).
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flesch%E2%80%93Kincaid_readability_test[/url]
[QUOTE=Sh33p;31098893]It'd probably help if you spelt Quote correctly.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I have to admit that was quite embarrassing. Fixed now.
[editline]21st July 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=tagnara;31188132]i wouldn't hire you[/QUOTE]
May I ask why?
