Web Development - WAYWO - #8 - Developers

I'm working on a wee website right now, I'm wanting to host a few game servers on my server, hopefully it'll fill up the hours and hours I have of free time, not even doing it for the money, just in it for the ride personally. [url]http://5.135.139.124/[/url] What do you guys think, overdone jQuery? (it's not finished yet, just wanting some opinions before I go on)

[QUOTE=zeromancer;40300304]I'm working on a wee website right now, I'm wanting to host a few game servers on my server, hopefully it'll fill up the hours and hours I have of free time, not even doing it for the money, just in it for the ride personally. [url]http://5.135.139.124/[/url] What do you guys think, overdone jQuery? (it's not finished yet, just wanting some opinions before I go on)[/QUOTE] [code] $("#host img").hover(function() { $(this).css('cursor', 'pointer'); }); [/code] I think the "menu" should have a more visible color. Go with a darker green, perhaps?

[QUOTE=P1raten;40300381][code] $("#host img").hover(function() { $(this).css('cursor', 'pointer'); }); [/code] I think the "menu" should have a more visible color. Go with a darker green, perhaps?[/QUOTE] That's great, thanks :)! I've put the font colour to darkgreen, how's that? (I'm really just a noob at webdesign, this'll be my second serious website :v:)

[QUOTE=zeromancer;40300428]That's great, thanks :)! I've put the font colour to darkgreen, how's that? (I'm really just a noob at webdesign, this'll be my second serious website :v:)[/QUOTE] For your second "serious" website this one is pretty good.

[QUOTE=P1raten;40300447]For your second "serious" website this one is pretty good.[/QUOTE] Thanks, appreciate it! Do you think I went overboard with the jQuery things though?

[QUOTE=zeromancer;40300467]Thanks, appreciate it! Do you think I went overboard with the jQuery things though?[/QUOTE] Not really, nope.

[QUOTE=zeromancer;40300304]I'm working on a wee website right now, I'm wanting to host a few game servers on my server, hopefully it'll fill up the hours and hours I have of free time, not even doing it for the money, just in it for the ride personally. [url]http://5.135.139.124/[/url] What do you guys think, overdone jQuery? (it's not finished yet, just wanting some opinions before I go on)[/QUOTE] You should add a small message if someone disabled javascript maybe?

How does styling work in jQuery UI? I have to use one of the themes, or can I edit the CSS file and host it locally? enternalflamez answered it for me - thanks :)

Just launched the ecommerce stuff I've been building for favery yesterday and sent out the first blast to our email list this morning :)

Small afternoon project: [url]https://github.com/filp/gimme[/url] Ignore the 'failing' tests badge, either I mucked-up my seemingly-fine .travis.yml, or travis-ci is being tits.

[QUOTE=StinkyJoe;40327097]Small afternoon project: [url]https://github.com/filp/gimme[/url] Ignore the 'failing' tests badge, either I mucked-up my seemingly-fine .travis.yml, or travis-ci is being tits.[/QUOTE] You make PHP almost look decent.

[QUOTE=TerabyteS_;40327398]You make PHP almost look decent.[/QUOTE] Woah woah, you're telling me that I [I]shouldn't [/I]be learning PHP?

[QUOTE=nehkz;40332161]Woah woah, you're telling me that I [I]shouldn't [/I]be learning PHP?[/QUOTE] Ignore the RoR hipsters, they won't let you into their treehouse. :v: In all seriousness, dabble with RoR, it will gain traction once lots of these new start-ups mature. But for the foreseeable future PHP is the better bet for employment.

PHP is better for employment if you want to be working on shitty legacy apps.

[QUOTE=Jelly;40333594]PHP is better for employment if you want to be working on shitty legacy apps.[/QUOTE] I want to be employed but I also don't want to be working on shitty apps. Fuck sake.

[QUOTE=Jelly;40333594]PHP is better for employment if you want to be working on shitty legacy apps.[/QUOTE] That's what I was going to say too. It's good to be familiar with the syntax and the basics, but you will pick up way better practices and way less headaches with something a little more modern/well designed. [editline]18th April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=CBastard;40332356]Ignore the RoR hipsters, they won't let you into their treehouse. :v: In all seriousness, dabble with RoR, it will gain traction once lots of these new start-ups mature. But for the foreseeable future PHP is the better bet for employment.[/QUOTE] It already has traction, the trick is to work for those startups. It's more fun than working for an enterprise anyways.

[QUOTE=nehkz;40333640]I want to be employed but I also don't want to be working on shitty apps. Fuck sake.[/QUOTE] That's when you [i]make[/i] the app not shit. I learned so much out of my PHP class just by making my own database driven web application that I almost feel employable. Hell, people are paying me to use my application and it's not even done yet. I could say it's a good concept but it's also me being good at using PHP. I plan on remaking the entire site in Ruby after I learn ruby though.

Except it's hard to write PHP that isn't shit, it's much easier to learn another language.

[QUOTE=01271;40334162]That's when you [i]make[/i] the app not shit.[/QUOTE] You're assuming that you will be able to do that though. When you're working for a business there's not as much time for cleanup as you'd like most of the time. At my last job I had a huge list of shit that needed to be fixed and cleaned up to make the codebase sane but there was almost never time for it because the business side moves so fast (which I like, and is part of the reason I choose to work for startups) There's a lot of stuff I need to clean up at my current job too, but it's not quite as bad. Thankfully most of it is going to get deleted eventually because we're pivoting and doing more commerce stuff. [editline]18th April 2013[/editline] I don't want to get in another lol PHP sucks debate, but this is extremely relevant again: [url]http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/[/url] Very very very good and indepth article about why PHP is pretty shit. I'll leave it at that. Definitely would recommend reading that if you're trying to decide what to learn though.

I remember reading somewhere that refactoring code shouldn't be necessary unless you need to go back and look at it, and complete rewrites are almost always a bad idea.

[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;40334566] [editline]18th April 2013[/editline] I don't want to get in another lol PHP sucks debate, but this is extremely relevant again: [url]http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/[/url] Very very very good and indepth article about why PHP is pretty shit. I'll leave it at that. Definitely would recommend reading that if you're trying to decide what to learn though.[/QUOTE] I get ruby class next semester so I don't know yet but right now I'm going to finish my current project entirely in PHP.

[QUOTE=01271;40334797]I get ruby class next semester so I don't know yet but right now I'm going to finish my current project entirely in PHP.[/QUOTE] PHP is like English and Ruby is like Esperanto. English is full of stupid inconsistencies, exceptions and quirks whereas Esperanto has sensible consistent rules. English is the most widely spoken language and many are bad at it. But enough of this.

Let's not get into this whole thing once more, it's not fun nor clever.

At the moment i create a simple portfolio page for myself...nothing special, will add later a screenshot.

Fuck this shit, everyone arguing about php and ruby, I'm going to start doing stuff with python.

[QUOTE=asantos3;40338487]Fuck this shit, everyone arguing about php and ruby, I'm going to start doing stuff with python.[/QUOTE] Welcome to the Python masterrace. Don't believe the Ruby propaganda.

[QUOTE=asantos3;40338487]Fuck this shit, everyone arguing about php and ruby, I'm going to start doing stuff with python.[/QUOTE] With some extra time you could probaly do it in assembly...

[QUOTE=Killervalon;40340646]With some extra time you could probaly do it in assembly...[/QUOTE] I really hope you are joking because python is as awesome as ruby.

[QUOTE=Amiga OS;40340813]What? Python isn't a low level language.[/QUOTE] I was trying to make a bad joke... sorry =(

[QUOTE=Amiga OS;40340938]As far as I know Python is pretty well kitted out to use as the backend for a web app. I'm trying to fix the damage PHP has done to me by learning C.[/QUOTE] I didn't say Python, Ruby or PHP were bad. I meant to use it as a joke towards the extra development time you would have to do. [sp]I just figured it would be fun because I saw a Futurama episode where Kif programmed a Pony using a few million lines of assembly.[/sp]