[QUOTE=Dorkslayz;42030475]I'd like to get started using Ruby/RoR but i'm worried that it'll take be forever to get skilled enough to do anything useful with it.[/QUOTE]
In my experience Rails is such a simple language that you can learn as you go along. I started with no previous experience with rails in January 2013 and by April I had enough knowledge to start a service im planning to make money on. There is so much great resources out there that its very easy to pick up rails quickly.
[QUOTE=Giraffen93;42030377]been actively using php since 2006, i can't change now[/QUOTE]
Please say this is a joke. You can't be serious?
I've been using PHP since 2005/6, have 'all' the functions in my head and have recently dropped regularly usage entirely in favour of Lua.
Most programmers know multiple languages - it's no excuse to be good at one and not learn others. I'd say I could read 20+ languages and happily start writing (albeit not competently) in at least 10.
[QUOTE=Fizzadar;42031300]Please say this is a joke. You can't be serious?
I've been using PHP since 2005/6, have 'all' the functions in my head and have recently dropped regularly usage entirely in favour of Lua.
Most programmers know multiple languages - it's no excuse to be good at one and not learn others. I'd say I could read 20+ languages and happily start writing (albeit not competently) in at least 10.[/QUOTE]
i have memory issues and concentration problems, i really can't keep a lot of stuff in my head
i'm not a programmer either, i just make webpages for fun
[QUOTE=Giraffen93;42031308]i have memory issues and concentration problems, i really can't keep a lot of stuff in my head
i'm not a programmer either, i just make webpages for fun[/QUOTE]
You don't have to be a "programmer" to know more than one language? If there is a good reason to choose a different language, consider it and decide if learning it is worth the eventual payoff.
Rails puts a lot of emphasis on "convention" over very fine-grained configuration, so you can keep your mind off of what you would expect to be in place by default and start thinking about what your application does that is unique. For someone who is "not a programmer" and has trouble concentrating I would suspect this is [I]exactly[/I] the kind of tool you would be interested in.
[b]Disclaimer:[/b] I've never actually used RoR myself, only read about it.
[QUOTE=adrianooo321;42026220]So I'm working on a little startup company focusing on the education sector. I started developing an app in Rails in April and I'm still not ready to sell the service. I am running closed alpha/beta tests in 2 schools in Dublin. I think i figured out my problem. I focus too much on the UI and almost forget about the functionality. So my question is do any of you have that problem and how to you battle it? Hire someone to focus on the UI ? Make Workflow charts ? Just curious really.[/QUOTE]
I don't get this. How are you spending so much time on UI that you are forgetting to actually think about how people are going to use your app? UI is 100% a function of how people use your app, so this doesn't even make sense. If you're spending too much time doing visual design and losing focus of what you are actually building then you need to change your process completely.
[editline]31st August 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=adrianooo321;42030869]In my experience Rails is such a simple language[/QUOTE]
Rails is a framework, Ruby is the language.
[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;42031921]I don't get this. How are you spending so much time on UI that you are forgetting to actually think about how people are going to use your app? UI is 100% a function of how people use your app, so this doesn't even make sense. If you're spending too much time doing visual design and losing focus of what you are actually building then you need to change your process completely.[/QUOTE]
What i mean is that when i sit down to do some work instead of adding a feature thats been on my todo list on unfuddle for a month now i decide to redesign the control panel for the 5th time.
[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;42031921]Rails is a framework, Ruby is the language.[/QUOTE]
My mistake
[QUOTE=adrianooo321;42032333]What i mean is that when i sit down to do some work instead of adding a feature thats been on my todo list on unfuddle for a month now i decide to redesign the control panel for the 5th time.[/QUOTE]
Ah, that just sounds like a self-discipline issue then. Just don't let yourself redesign things over and over again. I used to do the same thing, it really does just kind of come down to willpower haha. Definitely remind yourself that if you spend time redesigning over and over instead of adding the features you need to bring you to the point where you can launch, you're never going to launch and that you're just putting off the hard work of shipping by redesigning a bunch (maybe?).
[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;42032986]Ah, that just sounds like a self-discipline issue then. Just don't let yourself redesign things over and over again. I used to do the same thing, it really does just kind of come down to willpower haha. Definitely remind yourself that if you spend time redesigning over and over instead of adding the features you need to bring you to the point where you can launch, you're never going to launch and that you're just putting off the hard work of shipping by redesigning a bunch (maybe?).[/QUOTE]
Yeah you are most definitely right.
So today i decided to stop trying to fix bugs that are caused by the user using IE. I added a message to the homepage that IE is unsupported and will not ever be support. Is this the right thing to do? Also should i prevent the user from using my services from IE entirely. I'd appreciate some advice
[QUOTE=adrianooo321;42033318]Yeah you are most definitely right.
So today i decided to stop trying to fix bugs that are caused by the user using IE. I added a message to the homepage that IE is unsupported and will not ever be support. Is this the right thing to do? Also should i prevent the user from using my services from IE entirely. I'd appreciate some advice[/QUOTE]
If you're trying to market to schools you should at least support the oldest version of IE that microsoft is still supporting. School districts are not known for being great at staying up to date tech wise, and they're not going to bother upgrading things just to use your app, sadly.
[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;42033439]If you're trying to market to schools you should at least support the oldest version of IE that microsoft is still supporting. School districts are not known for being great at staying up to date tech wise, and they're not going to bother upgrading things just to use your app, sadly.[/QUOTE]
Strangely enough, my school uses Chrome mostly now.
[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;42033439]If you're trying to market to schools you should at least support the oldest version of IE that microsoft is still supporting. School districts are not known for being great at staying up to date tech wise, and they're not going to bother upgrading things just to use your app, sadly.[/QUOTE]
Since my app is marketed for the education sector , but in that education sector its for administrators, it shouldn't be a problem to install mozilla or chrome on one pc. In my experience fixing IE bugs is adding time to development putting more cost onto me.
[QUOTE=adrianooo321;42033671]Since my app is marketed for the education sector , but in that education sector its for administrators, it shouldn't be a problem to install mozilla or chrome on one pc. In my experience fixing IE bugs is adding time to development putting more cost onto me.[/QUOTE]
You are overlooking the fact that some school districts do school-wide setup/it admin the same way that big corps do for the teacher's computers as well as the students. Teachers/admins might not always have the ability to actually add a new browser to the computer, and they might be forced in to older browser versions by software that they are already using that requires an older browser (this was part of the issue getting ie6 out of big corporations for a while).
The real [B]best[/B] way to deal with this is to survey a bunch of schools and find out what browsers they have installed for administrators. That's the only way you will know what % of your target market you are alienating and closing down by not supporting IE, and knowing that is the only way you can make a decision as to whether the extra dev time is worth it.
[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;42033751]You are overlooking the fact that some school districts do school-wide setup/it admin the same way that big corps do for the teacher's computers as well as the students. Teachers/admins might not always have the ability to actually add a new browser to the computer, and they might be forced in to older browser versions by software that they are already using that requires an older browser (this was part of the issue getting ie6 out of big corporations for a while).
The real [B]best[/B] way to deal with this is to survey a bunch of schools and find out what browsers they have installed for administrators. That's the only way you will know what % of your target market you are alienating and closing down by not supporting IE, and knowing that is the only way you can make a decision as to whether the extra dev time is worth it.[/QUOTE]
This is actually an amazing idea , i never though about surveying. If i do it right i should be able to see which parts of development i need to focus on and which parts i need to scratch. Thanks Man
[QUOTE=adrianooo321;42034296]This is actually an amazing idea , i never though about surveying. If i do it right i should be able to see which parts of development i need to focus on and which parts i need to scratch. Thanks Man[/QUOTE]
Yeah no problem :)
Generally speaking, as a startup, you should constantly be asking yourself "What is the next thing I need to know to validate my idea/figure out what direction to head, and what is the easiest way for me to get that information"
You should always strive to work from the best data you can (qualitative and/or quantitative)
This is a great read: [url]http://www.amazon.com/Lean-Startup-Entrepreneurs-Continuous-Innovation/dp/0307887898/[/url] ([B]seriously[/B] recommend buying it and absorbing it if you're at all interested in starting and running a business)
And this is kind of a follow up that goes more to the metrics/analytics side of things: [url]http://www.amazon.com/Lean-Analytics-Better-Startup-Faster/dp/1449335675/[/url]
Schools tend to use Internet Explorer due to the fact that it has a strong integration with group policy and a full set of templates to allow sysadmins to lock down the browser and restrict access to things like proxy configurations.
This is why you are starting to see Chrome pop up in a few schools now, Google has created GP templates to allow administrators to restrict access to certain parts of the configuration window - in the same way Microsoft has done with Internet Explorer.
All in all, its a necessity to support Internet Explorer down to 9/8. I think you will start to see Internet Explorer die out and be replaced with Chrome in the future in the education sector, or possibly Firefox if they develop group policy templates. Unfortunately that wont be until the Network Managers that have been in the school 20 years prior to move on and be replaced with someone who is forward thinking and willing to try new things in order to benefit the IT experience in education for the greater good.
I am an IT Technician in a school, so I have a lot to write about in regards to this subject, sorry!
[QUOTE=Dorkslayz;42033621]Strangely enough, my school uses Chrome mostly now.[/QUOTE]
Same. I convinced our Tech guy to deploy Chrome to every computer in the school so everybody is using it now.
[editline]31st August 2013[/editline]
With that being said next summer I'm getting an internship as the school's IT guy
[QUOTE=Sharpshooter;42034777]
I am an IT Technician in a school, so I have a lot to write about in regards to this subject, sorry![/QUOTE]
You need to do an IAMA.
I usually never post WIP projects publicly but what the hell.
[img]http://puu.sh/4fPIA.png[/img]
[sp]ipsum because I haven't registered the domain yet[/sp]
Critique encouraged even though it isn't much content. :v:
[QUOTE=RidingKeys;42035416]With that being said next summer I'm getting an internship as the school's IT guy[/QUOTE]
How would one go about doing that?
[QUOTE=supersnail11;42035563]How would one go about doing that?[/QUOTE]
I just asked the IT tech at my school and he said that he'll talk to the district and they're going to interview me and hopefully they like me so I'll just end up working there for the summer before i go off to college.
Getting the same markup to look different depending on the screen size using CSS is a pain in the ass sometimes.
[IMG]http://pictures.gabrielecirulli.com/xScope-20130831-233226.png[/IMG]
[editline]1st September 2013[/editline]
Wow, the entire SASS file I wrote to theme bootstrap on that site is more than 1300 lines.
[url]https://github.com/SaraSoueidan/windows8-animations[/url]
[url]http://sarasoueidan.com/blog/windows8-animations/demo/index.html[/url]
Cool project, simple and easy but a nice end result
[QUOTE=TerabyteS_;42035808]Responsive design is a pain in the ass sometimes.
[t]http://pictures.gabrielecirulli.com/xScope-20130831-233226.png[/t]
Wow, the SASS file for that site is 1300+ lines.[/QUOTE]
I edited your post to be more responsive to mobile devices.
[QUOTE=jetboy;42035525]I usually never post WIP projects publicly but what the hell.
[img]http://puu.sh/4fPIA.png[/img]
[sp]ipsum because I haven't registered the domain yet[/sp]
Critique encouraged even though it isn't much content. :v:[/QUOTE]
hi again
[t]http://puu.sh/4g0hQ.png[/t]
(heavy wip)
[QUOTE=jetboy;42037675]hi again
[t]http://puu.sh/4g0hQ.png[/t]
(heavy wip)[/QUOTE]
I'd add some space between the "Become a member" and the actual box, seems too cramped. Nice though.
Found this: [url]http://fff.cmiscm.com/#!/main[/url]
Thought it was worth sharing. It's pretty cool.
[t]http://i.cubeupload.com/9n2bds.png[/t]
Working on a project/asset/server management site for work.
creating vhosts & git repo's via command line is getting a bit old.
And PSD's are sent to developers (me) via Skype so if I ever need to make a tweak from home or out the office I can't.
[QUOTE=xmariusx;42043940]Found this: [url]http://fff.cmiscm.com/#!/main[/url]
Thought it was worth sharing. It's pretty cool.[/QUOTE]
Awesome, got myself a new screensaver! (The window wiper typography one).
I'm adding this to GLoading:
[thumb]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/930809631.png[/thumb] [thumb]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/199575262.png[/thumb]
Not really useful but.. It may help some people and it help me passing time and learn new things when making it :P
The RCON commands isn't working yet. I'm adding little parts everyday.
Edit: I had to remove my free FastDL hosting service :( Due to my new host TOS.
[QUOTE=dexon;42045560]I'm adding this to GLoading:
[thumb]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/930809631.png[/thumb] [thumb]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/199575262.png[/thumb]
Not really useful but.. It may help some people and it help me passing time and learn new things when making it :P
The RCON commands isn't working yet. I'm adding little parts everyday.
Edit: I had to remove my free FastDL hosting service :( Due to my new host TOS.[/QUOTE]
Buy a dedi?
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