see i never learned ruby or have attempted..i've just been learning rails, everyone says it's alot easier if you learn ruby first then rails which is probably true, but i'm having no troubles.
holy fuck it's only taken me 2 years to get people here to try something other than php
[QUOTE=swift and shift;37659704]holy fuck it's only taken me 2 years to get people here to try something other than php[/QUOTE]
means you were not trying hard enough
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/mbmEu.png[/IMG]trying to get the hang of canvas
To be fair, not having the quirks php has and having the standard library organized in a more logical fashion [I]does[/I] result in cleaner code.
[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;37663326]To be fair, not having the quirks php has and having the standard library organized in a more logical fashion [I]does[/I] result in cleaner code.[/QUOTE]
What I believe is great is that you actually have a guideline under which you can also make your own methods and classes. It does feel awesome, to me at least, that when writing a method you can't really distinguish it from a rails method. ( Which is probably false as I wouldn't be pretentious enough to claim that but I believe it is a good start. )
Frameworks are a beautiful thing too, but that's Rails, not Ruby. Having all the boilerplate written already is incredibly helpful, and having all the conventions for the "right" way to do things is beyond useful when you're working on a project with multiple people.
[QUOTE=swift and shift;37659704]holy fuck it's only taken me 2 years to get people here to try something other than php[/QUOTE]
I tried to learn rails... then I realized it was practically an entire operating system's worth of crap and was too much work for what I was doing...
So by when will people be moving to Python or something adventurous like Yesod?
[QUOTE=lkymky;37666537]I tried to learn rails... then I realized it was practically an entire operating system's worth of crap and was too much work for what I was doing...[/QUOTE]
PHP is too much work if you actually intend to do something serious.
[QUOTE=TerabyteS_;37666940]PHP is too much work if you actually intend to do something serious.[/QUOTE]
Damn thats a lot of boxes,
I guess I'm not taking my site very seriously then... I found rails to be very overwhelming of a framework though.
At the moment all I use php for is file indexing, generating random strings, and loading templates.
Soon I will be doing mySQL stuff, but right now I don't even know how I would be able to implement Rails into my site.
Id have to implement git, heroku, the rails application itself, all of the applications and their dependencies and I also heard I can't do/don't want to do rails development on my site since my web host only has 'fastCGI' or something like that.
I found PHP to be a much simpler way to do things since php can be implemented into the HTML, rather than HTML being implemented around rails... Yeah the language is messy but I don't see massive benifits to using Ruby atm.
I also believe I may have been introduced to rails the wrong way, but to get started its still very overwhelming.
[QUOTE=lkymky;37669131]Damn thats a lot of boxes,
I guess I'm not taking my site very seriously then... I found rails to be very overwhelming of a framework though.
at the moment all I use php for is file indexing, generating random strings, and loading templates.
Soon I will be doing mySQL stuff, but right now I don't even know how I would be able to implement. rails into my site.
Id have to implement git, heroku, the rails application itself, all of the applications and their dependencies and I also heard I can't do rails development on my site since it has 'fastCGI' or something like that.
I found PHP to be a much simpler way to do things since php can be implemented into the HTML, rather than HTML being implemented around rails...
I also believe I may have been introduced to rails the wrong way, but to get started its still very overwhelming.[/QUOTE]
First off, git and heroku are optional. Secondly, rails doesn't have to use the fastcgi interface thingy, it can serve it directly if it needs to. PHP may be simpler, but Ruby on Rails gives you more control.
If rails is overkill for your little project then try Sinatra
[QUOTE=Ac!dL3ak;37669150]First off, git and heroku are optional. Secondly, rails doesn't have to use the fastcgi interface thingy, it can serve it directly if it needs to. PHP may be simpler, but Ruby on Rails gives you more control.[/QUOTE]
I just find that all of these different tools and applications and such is a lot to manage at once.
Maybe I need the right site to get started on though. Ill probably be back on this forum in a few months like 'I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT' but right now my head is too bedoggled with stuff that I don't yet understand to be able to implement rails onto my site.
It's definitely got more of a learning curve than PHP does because rails is a full blown MVC framework with a lot of conventions to learn, and deployment is not quite as simple as PHP (it's still easy after you do it a few times but it can be a little daunting to someone who is just used to ftping their files over)
[QUOTE=Kirth;37666690]So by when will people be moving to Python or something adventurous like Yesod?[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't write a serious website in Haskell
[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;37669305]and deployment is not quite as simple as PHP[/QUOTE]
.. until you realise your host setup misses an important dependency and you spend the better part of your day compiling the entire shebang.
what
So do you guys think it would be better to use @font-face with a set of icons as a font or just use an svg sprite sheet? I found a pack of vector icons I want to use on my new portfolio design, but am unsure which way I should do it.
[QUOTE=douche beat;37673904]So do you guys think it would be better to use @font-face with a set of icons as a font or just use an svg sprite sheet? I found a pack of vector icons I want to use on my new portfolio design, but am unsure which way I should do it.[/QUOTE]
SVG spritesheet is probably easier and faster to work with than a font.
[QUOTE=TerabyteS_;37674381]SVG spritesheet is probably easier and faster to work with than a font.[/QUOTE]
I suppose so, though the icon pack has already come with a font that seems to be working, I'll have to do more testing and tweaking if I want it to look smooth on windows probably. If it ends up being more work in the end I'll just switch over to SVGS
[QUOTE=Kirth;37673433].. until you realise your host setup misses an important dependency and you spend the better part of your day compiling the entire shebang.[/QUOTE]
Don't use shared hosting, problem solved.
Something I've wanted to make for a while but never wanted to learn jQuery. I think it's quite nice. Colours are picked randomly from a list of pre-defined colours. Download available when I get paid and renew my hosting.
[IMG]http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9669/sampleyi.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Loli;37687046]Something I've wanted to make for a while but never wanted to learn jQuery. I think it's quite nice. Colours are picked randomly from a list of pre-defined colours. Download available when I get payed and renew my hosting.
[IMG]http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9669/sampleyi.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
If you want a download mirror on my Australian site pm and i'll create an ftp account for you.
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[QUOTE=Loli;37687046]Something I've wanted to make for a while but never wanted to learn jQuery. I think it's quite nice. Colours are picked randomly from a list of pre-defined colours. Download available when I get paid and renew my hosting.
[IMG]http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9669/sampleyi.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
margins and padding dude
I wrote an ORM.
[code]
@orm.favourites.select.where(user_id: @user.id, submission_id: in: submissionIDs).run callback
@orm.favourites.insert.set(submission_id: submissionID, user_id: @user.id).run callback
@orm.favourites.delete.where(submission_id: submissionID, user_id: @user.id).run callback
@orm.users.update.set(banned: true).where(user_id: userID).run callback
[/code]
[QUOTE=Jelly;37697830]I wrote an ORM.
[code]
@orm.favourites.select.where(user_id: @user.id, submission_id: in: submissionIDs).run callback
@orm.favourites.insert.set(submission_id: submissionID, user_id: @user.id).run callback
@orm.favourites.delete.where(submission_id: submissionID, user_id: @user.id).run callback
@orm.users.update.set(banned: true).where(user_id: userID).run callback
[/code][/QUOTE]
You're a winner for spelling favourites properly!
[QUOTE=Alcapwne;34012339][url]www.twipsum.org[/url]
It's pretty much finished, I'll just be making improvements and changes as I see fit - any ideas?[/QUOTE]
This.. Is absolutely hilarious and awesome.
[QUOTE=amcfaggot;37696943]margins and padding dude[/QUOTE]
slice and dice dude
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