What are you working on? v7 - Developers

[QUOTE=mobrockers2;38435642]Why? An image as a logo is perfectly fine.[/QUOTE] In my humble opinion when you can do it using jet text then just use text. It makes sure that users can just copy the company name.

I'm the designated site designer for [URL="http://drivermadness.net"]this site[/URL] and the last time I made any serious changes to the code was MAYBE January or February. I took a pre-existing theme and modified it to fit the theme of the website. I've had a very long time to think about it and the way I made my changes were cheesy as hell. The dark version is too dark and looks like total ass, I used inline-styles for everything I added/modified, and worst of all the downloads mod currently has a shitty layout. I had a new layout planned and everything: [IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/69162797/newdllayout3.JPG[/IMG] But it never made it past the concept stages. I've yet to implement it - this was the result of just messing around in Firebug and saving the HTML and stuff. What do you guys think I should do? Update this theme and clean it up/totally overhaul it, or just find another PHPBB3 theme to work with? I would just make one from scratch, but I suck at scratch made designs anyways (especially in PHPBB3 - just not happening).

[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;38435687]In my humble opinion when you can do it using jet text then just use text. It makes sure that users can just copy the company name.[/QUOTE] That doesn't make any sense for a logo though, a logo is always an image. The only thing he should probably do is make it link to the homepage, that's pretty much expected these days since everyone does it.

[QUOTE=mobrockers2;38435747]That doesn't make any sense for a logo though, a logo is always an image. The only thing he should probably do is make it link to the homepage, that's pretty much expected these days since everyone does it.[/QUOTE] Oke dan. It's just what I'm used to doing and what I was thought.

[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;38435765]Oke dan. It's just what I'm used to doing and what I was thought.[/QUOTE] I get what you mean, I just don't think it fits for a logo. Everywhere else though, you're right. Text > images.

[QUOTE=mobrockers2;38435783]I get what you mean, I just don't think it fits for a logo. Everywhere else though, you're right. Text > images.[/QUOTE] It just doesn't fit for a logo that is just plain text like that one.

[QUOTE=CarLuver69;38435729]I'm the designated site designer for [URL="http://drivermadness.net"]this site[/URL] and the last time I made any serious changes to the code was MAYBE January or February. I took a pre-existing theme and modified it to fit the theme of the website. [/QUOTE] Please don't save pictures with text as jpeg's, my eyes :( I think you should definitely not continue working on the black theme. The white theme looks alright to me, except for all the caps everywhere, and the difference in colors between the nav bar and the rest. The nav bar looks alright (when everything is properly aligned), the others are too dark for my taste.

In this case I would use text as well. Its faster, easier to modify and higher quality (usually).

About the text: I am only allowed to put styles in an external stylesheet, and I would have to make separate classes for the spans or use pseudo style stuff that my web development teacher doesn't often agree with :/

[QUOTE=lkymky;38436006]About the text: I am only allowed to put styles in an external stylesheet, and I would have to make separate classes for the spans or use pseudo style stuff that my web development teacher doesn't often agree with :/[/QUOTE] [code] #topBar h1 {font-size: 55px;font-family: helvetica;float: left}; #topBar span {color: limegreen}; [/code]

[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;38435687]just use text. It makes sure that users can just copy the company name.[/QUOTE] Not the best argument for using text instead of an image (although it'd win points with the management). Here are more reasons to use text over a static image: * Easier to modify in the future (adding taglines or whatever.) * One less asset to load from the server. * Compatibility with screen readers (could use alt tags on the image, sure, but that goes against the point I'm making so sod that.) If you must use an image for text (such as using a dodgy non-web font), set it as the non-repeating background image of a div/h1 whose text is negatively indented (e.g. text-indent: -9999px;), and set the div/h1's text to the company name (since it's indented, the text won't obscure the background image.) Alternative, use plain CSS-styled text for the company name, and an actual image for the company logo itself.

[QUOTE=mobrockers2;38435811]I think you should definitely not continue working on the black theme. The white theme looks alright to me, except for all the caps everywhere, and the difference in colors between the nav bar and the rest. The nav bar looks alright (when everything is properly aligned), the others are too dark for my taste.[/QUOTE] The community is pretty split between light and dark - I was going to try and make a compromise so that it's not too dark but not too light either. Any suggestions? I'm all ears for some feedback on what I can do, because I've looked everywhere for new themes and none of them really fit in with the website.

[QUOTE=CarLuver69;38435729]I'm the designated site designer for [URL="http://drivermadness.net"]this site[/URL]. What do you guys think I should do? Update this theme and clean it up/totally overhaul it, or just find another PHPBB3 theme to work with? I would just make one from scratch, but I suck at scratch made designs anyways (especially in PHPBB3 - just not happening).[/QUOTE] With something as common-place as PHPBB, you're almost certainly going to find a theme that's 90-100% what you want straight out of the .zip. If I were you, I'd certainly go with a pre-defined theme and maybe just play around with some of the style tags to get exactly what you want. Rule of thumb though, go for simple over specialist. Don't be enticed by specialist 'gaming' forum skins because 9/10 they look like shite without the exact right content displayed on them. I have a fair amount of experience with creating forum skins (and editing existing ones) so feel free to hit me up via a PM if you'd like my Steam community URL. [QUOTE=lkymky;38436006]pseudo style stuff that my web development teacher doesn't often agree with :/[/QUOTE] I didn't realise that pseudo classes were a matter of opinion. Sounds like your teacher is one of the many that are the reason why some of us, even after years of comp. science, are making lime green websites to web 2.0 standards :D

[QUOTE=Proffrink;38437254]With something as common-place as PHPBB, you're almost certainly going to find a theme that's 90-100% what you want straight out of the .zip. If I were you, I'd certainly go with a pre-defined theme and maybe just play around with some of the style tags to get exactly what you want. Rule of thumb though, go for simple over specialist. Don't be enticed by specialist 'gaming' forum skins because 9/10 they look like shite without the exact right content displayed on them. [/QUOTE] I've found many themes and none of them really fit in with the website, and I personally don't feel like spending hours and hours modifying a theme just to make it fit in. Terayon 4 isn't a special gaming skin by any means, it's just a darkish blue theme by default - I took all the blues and made them a special kind of red that's been associated with the website forever. I'd rather fix up the code for the current website than totally re-do everything and start from scratch. But it also needs to be modernized as well, given a "fresh" look to it. Is the use of border-radius cheesy? I did a quick mockup and I thought it looked kinda neat.

Im currently working on a modular shopping cart system that handles donations. Modular in the sense, I can screen scrape the intended organization's website, trim the fat and then insert my PHP code. That way, when the customer goes to donate, they arent wisked away to some other site that looks nothing like the organization they want to donate for. In addition, the same system is going to be used in a number of other website after the initial website goes live.

[QUOTE=CarLuver69;38437334]I've found many themes and none of them really fit in with the website, and I personally don't feel like spending hours and hours modifying a theme just to make it fit in.[/QUOTE] Well, I do think it's quite easy to get carried away in the moment and to envision something which probably won't happen. It's very easy to modify a decent, well built and clean looking, light theme than it is a dark, specialised one. I'm not sure what your experience is like with these things, so what I'm about to say might be invalid: I don't think it's a good idea for anyone to go with a darker theme over a light one when it comes to a forum such as this. I really think putting a few hours into modifying it would be totally worth your while. I'm not talking anything complex, I'm just talking about changing the margins/padding here and there; re-positioning the logo and editing a few of the BB code colours. [QUOTE=CarLuver69;38437334]Terayon 4 isn't a special gaming skin by any means, it's just a darkish blue theme by default - I took all the blues and made them a special kind of red that's been associated with the website forever.[/QUOTE] Yeh, I probably wasn't specific enough there :) I didn't mean your current theme, I meant that if you go looking, light and general themes are always more easy to make 'work' with your site. Remember, the content on the page is going to drastically effect how the end result looks - the demonstrations you've probably seen have tailored content. Light themes are far more flexible. [QUOTE=CarLuver69;38437334]I'd rather fix up the code for the current website than totally re-do everything and start from scratch.[/QUOTE] Yeh, no one wants to do re-make a forum theme from scratch when it's not necessary. I think a new theme will not only give a fresh look to the site, but also be very easy to get working. It's probably a few hours work at most.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=CarLuver69;38437334]But it also needs to be modernized as well, given a "fresh" look to it. Is the use of border-radius cheesy? I did a quick mockup and I thought it looked kinda neat.[/QUOTE] Something I've learned from years of web design is that if you're going to use a border radius then you must make damn sure that you're using border radius on 70% of the corners, and that you've got some balls. Using border-radius of more than 3px in 2012 is very tricky to pull off - especially when you're working with forums. Obviously, I can only speculate. I'm not in your position and until today, I'd not even seen your design or the website. What I can assure you of though is that if you're not entirely confident that you have a very nice design that can be done with dark tones, you should be going for a lighter forum. It takes guts to pull off a full-black design, again even more so with forums. Also, never use #000 :3 (never go full-black). [QUOTE=Frankiscool!;38437335]Im currently working on a modular shopping cart system that handles donations. Modular in the sense, I can screen scrape the intended organization's website, trim the fat and then insert my PHP code. That way, when the customer goes to donate, they arent wisked away to some other site that looks nothing like the organization they want to donate for. In addition, the same system is going to be used in a number of other website after the initial website goes live.[/QUOTE] Ooo, pics? Or are you not allowed? This sounds a lot like those style sheet emulators for WHMCS and the like. What does it do, insert your PHP while stealing common tags like *, body, h1 and the like?

[QUOTE=Miljaker;38435335]I always mess up escaping quotes... One of the most annoying things in existence. Especially when echoing a lot of html tags with attributes. [/QUOTE] [B]Why are you echoing a lot of html tags with attributes?![/B]

[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7644905/Skjermbilde%202012-11-13%20kl.%2022.04.38.png[/img] That looks better, and now everything (but the prefixes) works just fine. Though I have been told not to use border-radius over 3px...

3px is the max but to be honest there you should be using less...

So more like this? [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7644905/Skjermbilde%202012-11-13%20kl.%2022.34.22.png[/img]

was time-lapsing the solar eclipse and my cat goes sleeping in front of the camera.... I'll post the process on facepunch in a few hours!

[t]http://puu.sh/1pTrM[/t] Working on a design for a portfolio thing for the shit of it. How's it look so far? Also, any advice on how to lay out the content in that container? [t]http://puu.sh/1pTDP[/t] holy moly I might have to adjust my measurements.

[QUOTE=TerabyteS_;38438660][B]Why are you echoing a lot of html tags with attributes?![/B][/QUOTE] Most html tags have at least a class. Then some have an id as well. And when echoing forms you get shittons more. Type, value and placeholder.

[QUOTE=Ac!dL3ak;38439480]3px is the max but to be honest there you should be using less...[/QUOTE] Use whatever border radius you want, there's nothing wrong with the way it was originally. There's a difference between rounding the sides of text fields or buttons and making everything have 40px border radius and look all doughy. The end aesthetic is what's important, not the fact that you're adhering to a bunch of rules that are grounded in nothing :P [editline]13th November 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Miljaker;38439824]Most html tags have at least a class. Then some have an id as well. And when echoing forms you get shittons more. Type, value and placeholder.[/QUOTE] Leave PHP when you are echoing HTML. You can place a ?> wherever and it will echo everything until the next <?php. You can also place additional <?php echo afwafwa ?> in the midst of that and it will work fine, so do that if you need any dynamic attributes or content in your HTML. [editline]13th November 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=D:\;38439779][t]http://puu.sh/1pTrM[/t] Working on a design for a portfolio thing for the shit of it. How's it look so far? [/QUOTE] Looks like a menu and a box. Design should be serving your content, so we can't really critique much if there is no content in there yet. [QUOTE=D:\;38439779] Also, any advice on how to lay out the content in that container?[/QUOTE] That completely depends on what the content is.

[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;38439846]Looks like a menu and a box. Design should be serving your content, so we can't really critique much if there is no content in there yet. That completely depends on what the content is.[/QUOTE] That came out kinda cold. :v: but thanks I guess.

[QUOTE=D:\;38439994]That came out kinda cold. :v: but thanks I guess.[/QUOTE] Haha sorry, didn't intend it that way :) It's super cliche, but 'content is king' is still the ultimate truth on the web. Content is something you should figure out, at least to some degree, before you even start doing visual design. Of course things can change as you start working, and that is very common. I see a lot of beginners make the mistake of trying to cram their content in to their design and make their content fit the design, when it should be happening the completely opposite way. Your design should be built around your content.

French and German localizations work on remote server but not the Chinese. :(

[QUOTE=KmartSqrl;38440039]Haha sorry, didn't intend it that way :) It's super cliche, but 'content is king' is still the ultimate truth on the web. Content is something you should figure out, at least to some degree, before you even start doing visual design. Of course things can change as you start working, and that is very common. I see a lot of beginners make the mistake of trying to cram their content in to their design and make their content fit the design, when it should be happening the completely opposite way. Your design should be built around your content.[/QUOTE] Good advice. Thanks! edit: [t]http://puu.sh/1pUl1[/t] How's that look?

[QUOTE=D:\;38440166]Good advice. Thanks! edit: [t]http://puu.sh/1pUl1[/t] How's that look?[/QUOTE] I think the date needs a bit more "pizzas" and I'm not a fan of the pink (watch kragmars disagree)

[QUOTE=Miljaker;38440758]I think the date needs a bit more "pizzas" and I'm not a fan of the pink (watch kragmars disagree)[/QUOTE] [img]http://puu.sh/1pUQb[/img] Thanks!