[QUOTE=FrankPetrov;41027896]$15 usd?[/QUOTE]
Really? I was leaning more towards the $40 - $70 range.
You'd be paying mostly for the disk space, and could use it as a backup server, or whatever. The rest of the VPS spec-wise isn't all that impressive. It'll still get the job done for most simple tasks, and can host a pretty large forum.
Also, the dedicated CPU might just be replaced with a percentage thing, basically stating that each VPS can use no more than 20% of the total CPU and all 8 cores.
[QUOTE=DRServices;41027949]Really? I was leaning more towards the $40 - $70 range.
You'd be paying mostly for the disk space, and could use it as a backup server, or whatever. The rest of the VPS spec-wise isn't all that impressive. It'll still get the job done for most simple tasks, and can host a pretty large forum.
Also, the dedicated CPU might just be replaced with a percentage thing, basically stating that each VPS can use no more than 20% of the total CPU and all 8 cores.[/QUOTE]
Over $40 would be an overkill as I could get a Dedicated Server with these specs for $50 / month:
2 x L5420 Xeon Quad Core 2.5GHz
16GB EEC RAM
2 x 500GB SATA HDD
10TB Bandwidth - Gigabit Port
All that for $50 / month, which is the best price I've ever seen out there. The host I'm getting this from is my little secret as their stock is limited and has a great support and datacenter.
And the best thing with it is, after 12 months of payments, I own the dedicated server.
[QUOTE=Svenskunganka;41028194]Over $40 would be an overkill as I could get a Dedicated Server with these specs for $50 / month:
2 x L5420 Xeon Quad Core 2.5GHz
16GB EEC RAM
2 x 500GB SATA HDD
10TB Bandwidth - Gigabit Port
All that for $50 / month, which is the best price I've ever seen out there. The host I'm getting this from is my little secret as their stock is limited and has a great support and datacenter.
And the best thing with it is, after 12 months of payments, I own the dedicated server.[/QUOTE]
The hell kind of host is this?
[QUOTE=advil0;41028287]The hell kind of host is this?[/QUOTE]
As I said, their stock is limited and I'm expanding my services so for now, I'm keeping them to myself.
No worries though, I'll definitely share them once I've ensured a few servers at their datacenter.
[QUOTE=Svenskunganka;41028194]Over $40 would be an overkill as I could get a Dedicated Server with these specs for $50 / month:
2 x L5420 Xeon Quad Core 2.5GHz
16GB EEC RAM
2 x 500GB SATA HDD
10TB Bandwidth - Gigabit Port
All that for $50 / month, which is the best price I've ever seen out there. The host I'm getting this from is my little secret as their stock is limited and has a great support and datacenter.
And the best thing with it is, after 12 months of payments, I own the dedicated server.[/QUOTE]
That is quite impressive. I'm actually quite familiar with the datacenter in question, but won't spoil the secret. (.org domain, right?)
As for the proposed VPS, we could charge $35 for it and still make a bit of a profit. However, the intention was to maximize profit significantly. We were actually looking at a $65 / month type of deal, as well as a few panels and such thrown in, including a free copy of WHMCS.
Also thought about giving away a free copy of vBulletin with every VPS sold. Trying to add services to justify the $65 monthly price tag.
This is obviously just a proposed offer. Nothing official.
[QUOTE=DRServices;41028333]That is quite impressive. I'm actually quite familiar with the datacenter in question, but won't spoil the secret. (.org domain, right?)
As for the proposed VPS, we could charge $35 for it and still make a bit of a profit. However, the intention was to maximize profit significantly. We were actually looking at a $65 / month type of deal, as well as a few panels and such thrown in, including a free copy of WHMCS.
Also thought about giving away a free copy of vBulletin with every VPS sold. Trying to add services to justify the $65 monthly price tag.[/QUOTE]
.com domain :P
VPS are a whole lot diffrent, and I can understand that you want to maximize profit. If you want to throw in any kind of forum software, please [B]do not[/B] select vB! IPB is a whole lot better.
EDIT:
400th post! Yaay... :suicide:
[QUOTE=Svenskunganka;41028369].com domain :P
VPS are a whole lot diffrent, and I can understand that you want to maximize profit. If you want to throw in any kind of forum software, please [B]do not[/B] select vB! IPB is a whole lot better.[/QUOTE]
There's a .org domain with the exact same server, at the exact same price, and with the exact same 'rent to own' structure. But alright then. :wink:
We're just going to stick with standard hosting for now. Virtual Private Servers are coming, though. We just have to come up with a decent configuration that won't bite us in our virtual butts sometime down the line.
Edit: found the proper datacenter. It has 'tec' in the name, right?
[QUOTE=DRServices;41028475]There's a .org domain with the exact same server, at the exact same price, and with the exact same 'rent to own' structure. But alright then. :wink:
We're just going to stick with standard hosting for now. Virtual Private Servers are coming, though. We just have to come up with a decent configuration that won't bite us in our virtual butts sometime down the line.
Edit: found the proper datacenter. It has 'tec' in the name, right?[/QUOTE]
Right ;D
Alright fuck it, here you guys have! Save one for me or I'll have to [I]take[/I] it away from you ;D
[URL="http://dacentec.com/"][B][U]Dacentec[/U][/B][/URL]
You have intrigued me with your well mannered speech and activity on these forums. I was currently developing a personal site for myself and was lost to find a hosting service as there were so many. But it looks as though you have sold me on it and I will be most definitely using it. Your prices are quite reasonable and I enjoy the amount of information you keep us up to date with here on facepunch. I appreciate your attitude and want to help people. I hope to be quite happy with your service for a long time coming :)
Oh and jesus christ update that logo, the colors are practically blending with that background. I'm sure if you asked the community here to help you with a logo for some kind of promotional coupon we would work hard to keep you as happy as you have kept us.
[QUOTE=GModAndYou;41029407]You have intrigued me with your well mannered speech and activity on these forums. I was currently developing a personal site for myself and was lost to find a hosting service as there were so many. But it looks as though you have sold me on it and I will be most definitely using it. Your prices are quite reasonable and I enjoy the amount of information you keep us up to date with here on facepunch. I appreciate your attitude and want to help people. I hope to be quite happy with your service for a long time coming :)
Oh and jesus christ update that logo, the colors are practically blending with that background. I'm sure if you asked the community here to help you with a logo for some kind of promotional coupon we would work hard to keep you as happy as you have kept us.[/QUOTE]
Welcome to the royal party!
And yeah, the logo... We plan to update it soon, but have no ETA as of this moment.
Will probably have a new logo up within the next two months.
- Ty H.
[B]Maintenance Today[/B]
We're going to perform some minor maintenance on our main web server. No downtime is expected, but with all maintenance periods, there's always a slight risk of error.
This maintenance will;
1. Enable a few server-side technologies that one of our customers has been requesting.
2. Prepare the server for future updates, and better resource management technologies.
The maintenance will start between 1:00 PM and 6:00 PM ET, and should last no longer than thirty minutes.
Today's maintenance period is now over, and all blood has been wiped up.
I'm happy to report that absolutely no downtime occurred.
- Ty H.
[I](another maintenance period will occur at roughly this time next month)[/I]
[QUOTE=Svenskunganka;41028498]Right ;D
Alright fuck it, here you guys have! Save one for me or I'll have to [I]take[/I] it away from you ;D
[URL="http://dacentec.com/"][B][U]Dacentec[/U][/B][/URL][/QUOTE]
I had actually found that site a few days ago. It seemed kinda weird to me. Rent to own, never would have thought of anyone doing that so it seemed fishy to me. Any idea if you can get it shipped back to you once you actually own it? I'm really debating getting it.
[B]Feedback Wanted[/B]
If you're currently a customer of ours, mind sharing your general feedback? Pros and cons?
If you're not a customer, mind telling us why? What's holding you back?
Thanks guys!
I don't have paypal because they took my account for receiving money.
[editline]15th June 2013[/editline]
It wasn't even that much too...
[QUOTE=jung3o;41048473]I don't have paypal because they took my account for receiving money.
[editline]15th June 2013[/editline]
It wasn't even that much too...[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'd advise the DRS open an account for google checkout. some people do not like paypal and the way they do things so provide a trustworthy and secure alternative such as google checkout.
[QUOTE=FrankPetrov;41048853]Yeah, I'd advise the DRS open an account for google checkout. some people do not like paypal and the way they do things so provide a trustworthy and secure alternative such as google checkout.[/QUOTE]
Google Checkout is closing down this winter. We could probably use 2Checkout, which is a fairly popular payment gateway.
We've also considered accepting Bitcoins.
Thanks for the feedback. :)
[QUOTE=DRServices;41048901]Google Checkout is closing down this winter. We could probably use 2Checkout, which is a fairly popular payment gateway.
We've also considered accepting Bitcoins.
Thanks for the feedback. :)[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry, I meant google wallet, the service google checkout is transitioning to.
[QUOTE=FrankPetrov;41048988]I'm sorry, I meant google wallet, the service google checkout is transitioning to.[/QUOTE]
We'll definitely add Wallet as an available payment gateway, but would rather hold off until after we have a physical business address and office location.
I'm honestly not the largest of Google supporters, so I'm personally rather biased towards Wallet. Still, if it proves to be a popular option, I see no harm in supporting it.
[QUOTE=jung3o;41048473]I don't have paypal because they took my account for receiving money.
[editline]15th June 2013[/editline]
It wasn't even that much too...[/QUOTE]
That's quite unusual, especially if it was a fairly small amount.
Have you attempted to contact PayPal? They'll normally resolve something like this fairly quickly.
I think this has already been discussed but I'm not a fan of the "unlimited" tag. "Unmetered" sounds a little better to me, but even the I'm not the biggest fan. Of course, less experienced people love the sound of unlimited, but anyone who has experience in web hosting knows it usually is a scam and you get screwed over by the TOS/AUP.
[QUOTE=Banana Lord.;41056416]I think this has already been discussed but I'm not a fan of the "unlimited" tag. "Unmetered" sounds a little better to me, but even the I'm not the biggest fan. Of course, less experienced people love the sound of unlimited, but anyone who has experience in web hosting knows it usually is a scam and you get screwed over by the TOS/AUP.[/QUOTE]
Changing our current 'unlimited' to the proposed 'unmetered' would make us feel rather dirty, as both of those terms mean the exact same thing.
Unfortunately, there are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of website hosting providers using the unlimited term incorrectly. Although there is no such thing as infinite space or infinite bandwidth, there is such a thing as 'unlimited'.
Most people, when they imagine unlimited website hosting, tend to wrongly assume that unlimited equals infinite. This is why the unlimited term has become, more or less, a marketing term. The poster child of falsely advertised hosts.
However, when you truly think about the unlimited definition, you'll realize that unlimited refers to nothing more than the available system resources, and the removal of predetermined quotas.
Basically, a single website can use an unlimited amount of the available disk space and bandwidth. So, if the server itself has 2 TB of disk space and 100 TB of bandwidth, you would have unlimited access to the available space and bandwidth, and wouldn't be limited to using a minor predetermined chunk.
Both unlimited and limited hosting providers normally enforce certain resource limitations on all of their hosting plans, no matter how much disk space and bandwidth is provided to the client.
If a site goes over the resource limitations, that website would be suspended.
Keep in mind that both the unlimited and the limited host have the exact same resource policies. The unlimited host simply removes the predetermined disk and bandwidth quotas.
DeRoyalServers is one of the very rare exceptions to the normally quite common resource limits, as we offer unlimited resources in addition to the removal of all predetermined quotas. This basically means that, in addition to the disk and bandwidth, our clients can also use as much of our available resources as they require. CPU, RAM, Network. There's no predetermined limitations in place for any of our services. (excluding Starter Plan)
Plus, for those of you that do not trust 'unlimited' hosting providers, we also sell hosting plans with predetermined quotas in place.
Just scroll to the bottom of [URL="http://www.deroyalservers.com/knowledgebase.php?action=displayarticle&id=18"]this[/URL] knowledgebase article, and you'll find our Custom Plan offerings.
- Ty H.
[QUOTE=DRServices;41057749]explanation of unlimited[/QUOTE]
Still, the physical server itself and the bandwidth cap (from what looks to be softlayer?) are limits on what's available. Your "unlimited" plan certainly seems to be better than those from most providers, but it's still proper terminology to say that it is unmetered.
Saying that something is unlimited just seems like a cop-out for providers that aren't willing to share what their actual limitations are (2 TB hard drive, 100 mbit port, etc.)
[QUOTE=joe_sandwich;41058042]Still, the physical server itself and the bandwidth cap (from what looks to be softlayer?) are limits on what's available. Your "unlimited" plan certainly seems to be better than those from most providers, but it's still proper terminology to say that it is unmetered.
Saying that something is unlimited just seems like a cop-out for providers that aren't willing to share what their actual limitations are (2 TB hard drive, 100 mbit port, etc.)[/QUOTE]
There's truly no reason for us to switch out one similar term with another, especially when both terms provide a nearly identical meaning.
Although I see your reasoning behind making such a switch, you must understand that we are trying to market our services towards the general hosting consumers, rather than a single niche market of knowledgeable developers. We do try to operate a very open and developer-friendly hosting environment, and a simple term will never change our current stance. There's just more general consumers in the world than there are developers, and our hosting network is here to accommodate everyone.
We'll certainly be sure to provide more public and easily accessible information, as well as a clear explanation of what unlimited hosting is, and how it differs from infinite and limited.
We do have this information publicly displayed on our website, although it may be masked by complicated terms such as 'quotas' and 'resources' which most general consumers may not properly understand, so a clear and concise example of our true limitations and server specifications is something we'll have to create. We could possibly include a sort of easy to read list that outlines our hosting environment, and what 'unlimited' means to us.
Maybe even a rewrite of our Unlimited Policies document, so it's not as technical.
If you have any more feedback or suggestions, please be sure to reply back. We rely on our current and potential customers to provide us with honest feedback and information. Without you guys, DRS wouldn't even exist.
[B]A Little Comparison Thing[/B]
[I]Price Comparison[/I]
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(3year)HostGator: $228.96 (equivalent to $6.36 / month)
(3year)BlueHost: $250.20 (equivalent to $6.95 / month)
(3year)1and1: $251.64 (equivalent to $6.99 / month)
(3year)DeRoyalServers: $124.74 (equivalent to $3.46 / month)
(1year)HostGator: $95.52 (equivalent to $7.96 / month)
(1year)BlueHost: $95.40 (equivalent to $7.95 / month)
(1year)1and1: $107.88 (equivalent to $8.99 / month)
(1year)DeRoyalServers: $50.49 (equivalent to $4.20 / month)
(month)HostGator: $7.96
(month)BlueHost: Not Available
(month)1and1: $9.99
(month)DeRoyalServers: $4.95
[I](HostGator-Baby, BlueHost-Standard, 1and1-Business, DeRoyalServers-Jester's)[/I]
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DRS Starter (2GB Disk, 60 GB Bandwidth): $10.00 / year. [I](equivalent to $0.83 / month)[/I]
Elpis Basic (3GB Disk, 100 GB Bandwidth): $47.40 / year. (equivalent to $3.95 / month)
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I wanted to also do a Lithium vs DeRoyalServers comparison, but honestly the differences are very little. You save a dollar with DRS, and have some extra bandwidth and features on Starter (vs their Basic), but that's pretty much it.
- Ty H.
[I](ps. if you have a website with HostGator, BlueHost or 1and1, hopefully this little comparison will help you realize you're paying a heck of a lot for fairly mediocre hosting plans) [/I]
[URL="http://www.deroyalservers.com/knowledgebase.php"]Knowledgebase[/URL]. Click on any of the Categories/Articles. What's up with that?
[QUOTE=Svenskunganka;41079379][URL="http://www.deroyalservers.com/knowledgebase.php"]Knowledgebase[/URL]. Click on any of the Categories/Articles. What's up with that?[/QUOTE]
Oops, sorry about that.
We were performing some maintenance last night, and tried to get the links to be SEO friendly.
Restored and fixed.
We hope to finally relaunch our video game server hosting platform on July 25th, 2013.
As suggested, we will be switching over to TCAdmin 2, instead of the previously used GameCP panel.
[I](thanks for the suggestions, and [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1216736&p=40935394&viewfull=1#post40935394"]warnings[/URL] regarding GameCP)[/I]
Pricing can be found here - [url]http://www.deroyalservers.com/game-servers.php[/url]
Sorry for the lack of announcements lately. Figured I'd let the 'heat' on these boards die down a bit before posting again.
From now on, I'll only post on this thread to announce big changes to our network, as well as to reply to any questions you guys happen to ask.
Also, really loving some of the websites you guys have been creating. :)
I'd say it's all rather good pricing. What is the specs of the servers they will be hosted on? About how many game servers per physical server will there be?
[QUOTE=FrankPetrov;41380860]What is the specs of the servers they will be hosted on?[/QUOTE]
The specifications will vary by datacenter location, so I can't give exact details just yet.
Most, if not all of the servers, will have two quad core processors and a minimum of 16GB RAM.
[QUOTE=FrankPetrov;41380860]About how many game servers per physical server will there be?[/QUOTE]
Each server will be able to host around 200 concurrent player slots. (Source engine games)
(that's to assume that all 200 players are connected at once)
Certain plugins and maps may lower the 200 slot estimate, but that is what we are aiming for on a per server basis.
[QUOTE=DRServices;41381069]Most, if not all of the servers, will have two quad core processors[/QUOTE]
SRCDS isn't multi-threaded so you should aim on a high clockrate CPU rather than low clockrate and lots of cores. That is if you want your customers to have very high performance on their servers.
EDIT:
E3-1230v2 would be a great choice!
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