I don't understand why you'd have to restart your server? I work for a hosting company and we have servers with uptime > 500 days. Your host node likely wouldn't need restarted unless an urgent kernel update got pushed that [b]required[/b] a reboot; which is not frequent.
[QUOTE=andersonmat;41542010]I don't understand why you'd have to restart your server? I work for a hosting company and we have servers with uptime > 500 days. Your host node likely wouldn't need restarted unless an urgent kernel update got pushed that [b]required[/b] a reboot; which is not frequent.[/QUOTE]
Servers, like all computers, aren't designed to run 24/7 for months on end. Things tend to act up.
It's always wise to restart your computer at least once every month. Same goes for a server. (although most hosts won't notice any real difference if they run their servers for months, or even years)
If our server is operating normally, we tend to leave it as-is. However, if a client provides us with a valid reason as to why the server should be restarted, we will restart the server on his behalf. (restricted to one restart every 30 days)
This months restart was requested by one of our clients.
The next restart probably won't occur for another six months. Obviously can't guarantee that timeframe, as it could be shorter or longer. Depends on the stability of our server, as well as any updates or maintenance periods we'll happen to have between now and then.
Hope that clears some things up. We don't restart our servers every single month, unless entirely required.
I'm going to disagree with you considering I have experience with a datacenter full of host machines which have varying degrees of uptime.
Though I suppose your monthly restarts are acceptable given you only guarantee 99.9% uptime. v:downs:v
[QUOTE=andersonmat;41542449]Though I suppose your monthly restarts are acceptable given you only guarantee 99.9% uptime. v:downs:v[/QUOTE]
It is impossible to accurately guarantee a 100% uptime ratio. Technology doesn't permit it.
Having a background in server / datacenter management, you should be aware of the various networking limitations. Aside from the reliability of the internet itself, hardware problems tend to arise every once in awhile. It's simply unavoidable.
Monthly restarts don't allow for a 99.99% uptime guarantee :wink:
[QUOTE=DRServices;41542752]It is impossible to accurately guarantee a 100% uptime ratio. Technology doesn't permit it.
Having a background in server / datacenter management, you should be aware of the various networking limitations. Aside from the reliability of the internet itself, hardware problems tend to arise every once in awhile. It's simply unavoidable.[/QUOTE]
I am not saying 100% is possible. Just implying that if you want monthly restarts, you are able to under your guarantee.
MONTHLY restarts? There's almost no reason that's required; especially at a clients request (what possible reason is there?). Assuming a good RAID setup and EEC RAM a shared (hosting or VM) server can easily run for months, even years (although I would recommend a yearly restart for the most stable servers).
The only restarts I can see being required are 1. kernel updates (ksplice to avoid) and 2. when something randomly breaks badly
[QUOTE=DRServices;41542383][B]Servers[/B], like all computers, [B]aren't designed to run 24/7 for months on end[/B].[/QUOTE]
Yes... yes they are.
[QUOTE=DRServices;41542383]Servers, like all computers, aren't designed to run 24/7 for months on end. Things tend to act up.
It's always wise to restart your computer at least once every month. Same goes for a server. (although most hosts won't notice any real difference if they run their servers for months, or even years)
If our server is operating normally, we tend to leave it as-is. However, if a client provides us with a valid reason as to why the server should be restarted, we will restart the server on his behalf. (restricted to one restart every 30 days)
This months restart was requested by one of our clients.
The next restart probably won't occur for another six months. Obviously can't guarantee that timeframe, as it could be shorter or longer. Depends on the stability of our server, as well as any updates or maintenance periods we'll happen to have between now and then.
Hope that clears some things up. We don't restart our servers every single month, unless entirely required.[/QUOTE]
Erm, yes they are intended to be on 24/7 that's the point in them what an idiotic thing to say.
If a client gives you a reason you need to restart then you maybe need to rethink how you're running your servers.
[I]Just, disregard what I said. Please. [U]I beg you[/U]. [/I]
I guess it's more of a habit of mine to perform periodic restarts.
I don't want my hosting uptime dictated by habit either.
Another inexperienced host... Next time host with people who know what they're doing like Afterburst or Ramnode.
Well this went downhill fast.
Shame really, but it appears all credibility is lost, for me anyway.
[QUOTE=Bradgibbs;41557806]Well this went downhill fast.
Shame really, but it appears all credibility is lost, for me anyway.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I doubt there's much I can say now to restore your faith in DRS.
We're not going to vanish from the internet, though. A simple misfortune on these forums isn't enough to kill the kingdom.
All I can do is hope it all works out, both for you, Facepunchers looking for a website, as well as for myself.
Best wishes;
- Ty.
You're just going to run off because people called you out on something dumb you do/did? Running off because of that is worse than the restart thing. You should just use this as a learning experience. Accept the criticism and let it be constructive for you. This thread suddenly fell to shit because you let it. Try and prove you've improved etc.
[QUOTE=Yffulf;41573605]You're just going to run off because people called you out on something dumb you do/did? Running off because of that is worse than the restart thing. You should just use this as a learning experience. Accept the criticism and let it be constructive for you. This thread suddenly fell to shit because you let it. Try and prove you've improved etc.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the encouragement.
I'm honestly not sure if people want me on here anymore. If they do, then I'll certainly stay active.
However, I don't want to be a nuisance to the community. Basically, should I stay, or should I go?
It has certainly been a fun experience, and I've learned a lot about what developers want in a host. I have this community to thank for that.
Servers are optimized to run for months with good cooling hardware and an as close to as possible dust-free environment. I can understand that you thought it needed a montly restart, but now you know that it isn't required. The fact that you wanted to restart it every month indicates that you want to keep your servers fresh, which is a good thing. But as most of the people here said already, it isn't recommended nor required.
[QUOTE]I'm honestly not sure if people want me on here anymore. If they do, then I'll certainly stay active.[/QUOTE]
Most of us are just tired of all the threads about hosting offers. From my point of view, you haven't been active regarding Web Development that much, which is what this part of Facepunch is about.
You shouldn't give up just because you got some criticism. Take it and learn from it and your service will surely grow alot faster.
[QUOTE=jamie1130;41553207]Another inexperienced host... Next time host with people who know what they're doing like Afterburst[/QUOTE]
No offense to Afterburst, but placing them on some sort of high ground makes no sense considering they've actually rebooted hosts and my VPSes without warning several times when I was with them. They also argued on this forum that warning people for downtime was unnecessary when it was short and unplanned, after I called them out on the previous matter. They're getting better and they're really friendly, not trying to do wrong on purpose. They're just not the high mark of VPS hosting people on here make them out to be.
[I](Public Relations Message Imminent)[/I]
This thread has been going downhill as of late, and I have myself to blame for that. I've said some things that others on here consider to be unprofessional. The fact that I am writing this very post may fuel someones fire, and I'm pretty damn sure at least one person will rate this post down.
Honestly, I'm not what you would consider to be a true professional. I'm slightly above an average Joe, but still well below the requirements of the [I]true professional[/I] title.
I'm not RamNode, nor am I Afterburst. Up until the creation of DRS, my main web hosting experiences came from renting dedicated servers and VPS's at third party providers. I've even used (and still use) third party shared hosting networks.
I've never operated a hosting network before DeRoyalServers, and doubt my operations will ever be truly perfect. I will never be able to compete with RamNode or Afterburst, as there's still so much I have yet to fully learn and understand, especially in regards to VPS deployment and management. I have a high respect for both RamNode and Afterburst.
DeRoyalServers is a long-term operation of mine, and I'm putting everything I've got into maintaining and expanding the network. I will make mistakes every once in awhile. It's unavoidable, either by company or person. [B]However, when such mistakes are made, I will learn from them, and apologize when needed. [/B]
If you were affected by the recent restart, just send me a private message with the URL to your DRS hosted website, and I'll apply $10 of free web hosting credit to your account as an apology for the inconvenience. (two months of hosting)
[B]I've learned my lesson, and thank you all for helping me out. [/B]
[B]Snakess[/B], I would like to thank you personally for being so critical of my services.
Specifically regarding the nature of this thread, you are half-right. This thread was in fact created as a way to advertise to the Facepunch community, however, you are missing my other main intention; [I]knowledge[/I].
Although I don't post much within the other threads, I certainly read them. I love being able to see what real web developers require in a host, so I can try my very best to offer a service that developers can actually use without many of the usual shared hosting limitations. There's no better way to get feedback from web developers than by posting onto a forum with web developers.
As mentioned by other posts, DeRoyalServers is still a fairly new platform, and we have yet to build up a solid reputation as a host. Most people would prefer to host with a more reputable provider, that is, a provider with hundreds of reviews and thousands of Twitter followers.
Although [B]nehkz[/B] got downvoted when he replied with the 'reputation' argument, he had a very valid point. DeRoyalServers has no real reputation, neither positive or negative.
I, as a consumer myself, completely understand where folks such as nehkz are coming from, and I tend to avoid providers or services that have no reputation to speak of.
That is why I've been running so many promotions. The $4.95 price is already fairly inexpensive, but even at this price, most consumers tend to be hesitant. The idea was, if I lowered my prices, some of these hesitant individuals would give DRS a try.
Thank you all for providing your feedback and opinions, and an extra big thanks to those of you that use our hosting network. (and can overlook this one mistake)
[B]Lesson learned.[/B]
[QUOTE=nomad1;41418821]Hi, just wanted to say that I have ordered and paid for a web host + domain registration. You guys seem to be the cheapest out there and provide more per dollar. Thanks![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knallex;41420018]Just ordered a web plan for my new domain. This'll be fun.[/QUOTE]
How's it going? Any complaints, compliments, or generally awesome things to say?
Would love to hear back from you guys. :dance:
This is [B]Sidiface [/B]-
[IMG]http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/4807/5bd2.png[/IMG]
He's here to provide you guys with the latest and greatest system updates from DeRoyalServers.
[B]Sidiface is just itching to announce something big.[/B] Stay tuned, fellow Facepunchers.
[I](ps. don't punch Sidiface)[/I]
[B]Brand Change - DeRoyalServers will soon become DoRoyal[/B][I] (PR taste imminent) [/I]
[I](note: this message will also be available as an [URL="http://www.deroyalservers.com/announcements.php"]announcement [/URL]on our website)[/I]
Due to a legal inquiry concerning our current name, [B]we have been forced to rebrand our operations to simply DoRoyal[/B]. Beginning August 20th, we will be updating our website to represent our new brand. [I](note: a system email will be sent to all of our clients, informing them of the change, and directing them to the new domain name, which is [url]http://doroyal.com/[/url])[/I]
We've also updated our PayPal business account holder to [B]Sidular[/B], instead of the previous [I]DeRoyalServers [/I]name.
Most of you won't notice any changes, aside from the new domain name and logo. All services will continue to function, and the DNS servers will remain active. (new DNS servers will also be available, and it is advised to use the new servers as soon as they are publicly available)
This isn't the end of times for DRS, nor is it a new beginning. I know some of you will disagree with this entire statement, and think that our rebranding is a sign of the apocalypse.[I] (or more specifically, the sign that DRS is an unprofessional operation) [/I]
However, we're just joining the likes of Afterburst [I](Fanatical VPS)[/I], and hundreds of other companies and services that have rebranded in recent years. We're not rebranding because we feel our current [I](well, technically our previous) [/I]brand was insufficient, or was tarnished by recent events. We've actually been planning this for quite some time, and thought up some rather unique names that turned out to not be as unique as we had imagined. [I](as most of the names were already registered or copyrighted by someone else) [/I]
I considered Royality, Royalweb, RoyalHost. I even considered switching the entire operation over to the UlarHost brand around three months ago, but ultimately decided to stick with the 'Royal' theme. [I](little known fact: UlarHost was initially created as a rebrand attempt for DeRoyalServers, but I decided to instead turn UlarHost into a full operation of its' own) [/I]
Sidiface, that little blue emoticon of mine, will be used to announce certain events and downtimes over at DoRoyal. His published emotion will determine the severity of the problem.
Consider Sidiface the secondary mascot for DoRoyal.[I] (the main mascot for the brand is a Jester) [/I]
As for the logo? It is still being designed, but the current version can be seen below. [I](note: the green Sidular eye will likely be removed in the final design. Also, the final design will have far better transparency, so no jagged edges) [/I]
[IMG]http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7108/uhz.png[/IMG]
[I](oh, and the little blue Sidiface isn't a part of the logo. I just threw him in for the heck of it)[/I]
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[I]Note: DoRoyal can still be abbreviated as DRS, so this thread will remain active, albeit with some changes to the original post. (DoRoyal Services)[/I]
In the source code of [url]http://www.deroyalservers.com/index.php[/url], I found this gem:
[code]<link rel="shortcut icon" href="http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2019/b32ed5539bbe93ddc6050da.png" />[/code]
I don't want to nitpick or anything, but how come you're hosting your favicon on Imageshack while you have all the resources to put it on the very VHost your WHMCS installation is running on?
[QUOTE=Alternative Account;41713720]In the source code of [url]http://www.deroyalservers.com/index.php[/url], I found this gem:
[code]<link rel="shortcut icon" href="http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2019/b32ed5539bbe93ddc6050da.png" />[/code]
I don't want to nitpick or anything, but how come you're hosting your favicon on Imageshack while you have all the resources to put it on the very VHost your WHMCS installation is running on?[/QUOTE]
If I didn't host it at ImageShack, you would never have wrote that reply, and I would never have replied to your reply.
Imagine how different this conversation would be. :p
Honestly though? No real reason. It doesn't affect me, nor does it affect anyone else.
It does make the source look all that more interesting though, wouldn't you agree? I mean, with such a long link appearing in an otherwise linkless form, it kind of reminds me of that super cool loner at a party of five. (you know, the metaphorical loner that just so happened to be a link to ImageShack, but was too scared to come out of the closet and announce his shackness)
Yeah, that's the reason why I use ImageShack.
I hope you're enjoying your gem.
[I]
ps. this post was intended to be moderately funny.. unfortunately, I believe I failed. [/I]
Edit:
Seriously though? I never really thought about it. I've always been a fan of ImageShack myself, and tend to use it for most of my images. I guess, the favicon somehow made its way into my ImageShack collection.
[B]Rebranding Update : [/B]
[B]Phase 1[/B] of our rebranding effort has begun, and should conclude by 12:00n ET.
During this time, we're removing all reference to 'DeRoyalServers' from the storefront, and replacing them with 'DoRoyal'.
The DRS logo has also been replaced with the new DoRoyal logo. [I](hosted locally, and not at [URL="http://t.wallpaperweb.org/wallpaper/animals/1600x1200/Big_Grin.jpg"]ImageShack[/URL])[/I]
[B]
Phase 2[/B] will commence around August 10th - 11th. We'll be updating our media services so they represent the new DoRoyal branding.[I] (this includes Twitter, as well as our FP thread)[/I]
[B]Phase 3[/B], the final phase, will take place on August 20th - 22nd. We'll be updating our internal systems during phase 3, as well as switching over to doroyal.com.
Honestly, people here are rather childish. Not that it's unexpected. DRS/Tyler has blatantly said that his service is going to match any other resale in almost every way.
And yes, he's inexperienced, but isn't that kind of the whole point of throwing himself into this and posting the way he does? I'd much prefer having a host I can contact easily and has proven to me that he knows he can do wrong. Not to mention he clearly has a passion for what he's doing. It lets me know that if I'm not satisfied then he'll go out of his way to assist me.
Either way, I've hosted with a few hosts. I only started with DRS about a month ago and the only thing that's happened is they asked if I wanted free advertisement for one of my sites through their homepage. [b]They came to me and asked if I wanted my site on their homepage.[/b] That's pretty fucking cool for someone like me who is just in this to learn and play around a bit.
About the favicon thing, I think anyone who's really looked into this can tell that Tyler isn't a web developer or designer. He'll probably code some silly looking things or have some silly layouts/graphics, but that hasn't affected my service at all. He'll learn just like anyone else.
[QUOTE=TreasoN.avi;41738343]
About the favicon thing, I think anyone who's really looked into this can tell that Tyler isn't a web developer or designer. He'll probably code some silly looking things or have some silly layouts/graphics, but that hasn't affected my service at all. He'll learn just like anyone else.[/QUOTE]
That's really not a big deal at all, I don't know why anybody even cared. It is a little bit abnormal to host the favicon externally when nothing else is, sure, but it doesn't matter.
Everything has been smooth in terms of my website. No complaints.
Besides the look of it...
Same here. My "Site" is going well. Even though it's still just an assortment of random PHP files that I'm fucking around with. I just wanted to not have to mooch off of my friends FTP to learn all this stuff.
Some day I'll have a real site there when I have a clue what I'm doing. Till then, blank index pages everywhere.
For some reason I haven't been able to access my site nor my cpanel for last week.
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