[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;37705372]It's funny because Rebb actually never did the naked femscout, she only did naked scoutma and since then everyone is reusing that body for everything
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btw next time you copy/paste stuff you might at least want to do it properly
[img]http://i2.imageban.ru/out/2012/09/17/bcdafec6eb4904cab2ab16d994ee64b5.png[/img][/QUOTE]
Again you didnt seem to read much, cause I said I used the female scout head from the original version and even gave credit, the body is from scratch by Me, and that little error you pointed out is only in SFM and not gmod which I compiled this for DERP turn down your AO.
Also Rebb's femscout should have nothing to do with this since his modeled different in terms of clothes and body.
[QUOTE=plasmid;37705438]Again you didnt seem to read much, cause I said I used the female scout head from the original version and even gave credit,[/QUOTE]
But I didn't say anything about you not giving credit or whatever? I just said you did a very sloppy job at copypasting it because you have wrong normals there.
Also since the project started as a nude version (lol), on a forum for SFM porn, I think it does indeed matter considering SFM has that AO by default, y'know? (not that I care about the quality of SFM [del]child porn[/del] porn, but you might want to fix that)
[QUOTE=plasmid;37705438]Also Rebb's femscout should have nothing to do with this since his modeled different in terms of clothes and body.[/QUOTE]
"rebb's femscout" is, I assume, in reference from the enhanced that me and rebb did. rebb, well, she helped out a ton with it — we actually revamped the face and she's making hwm stuff for her now :0
but anyway I disgress; I think it should have something to do with it because TBH, it respects TF2's guidelines while your model... doesn't
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;37705468]But I didn't say anything about you not giving credit or whatever? I just said you did a very sloppy job at copypasting it because you have wrong normals there[/QUOTE]
Doesnt look like that in Gmod, but thank you for pointing it out I have something else to fix for later.
[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11830984/pictures/garrys%20mod/ragdols/error.PNG[/img]
oho waait I see it, that little line right there, the head is welded onto the body, but I know how this fix this.
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;37705468]But I didn't say anything about you not giving credit or whatever? I just said you did a very sloppy job at copypasting it because you have wrong normals there.
Also since the project started as a nude version (lol), on a forum for SFM porn, I think it does indeed matter considering SFM has that AO by default, y'know? (not that I care about the quality of SFM [del]child porn[/del] porn, but you might want to fix that)
[/QUOTE] Most of that forum is Gmod actually with a added sub thread of SFM which I would be happy to recompile to work well with
[QUOTE=plasmid;37705485]-snipped for length-[/QUOTE]
I hardly rate stuff :V
I also dislike how you kind of make everything out to be some sort of ego war. I think I'm more than willing to let Plasmid continue work on this AS LONG AS THE FEMSCOUT'S MODEL MATURES.
Who knows. Maybe one day I'll use it. Iunno
[QUOTE=plasmid;37705485] oooh it all makes sense noow, Your mad cause the model I made wasn't to your guidelines[/QUOTE]
No, [I]Valve's[/I] guidelines for [I]their[/I] art style.
Like, you know, having hands twice the size, facial features with somewhat sharp edges, etc.
[QUOTE=plasmid;37705485]the one you make hundreds of gmod videos with and disable the comments from people asking questions right?
well I hope im not overstepping my boundaries by doing TF2 stuff and getting into your serious line of business, look I don't need to state it anymore Ill work on this, and ill try my best to fix the things that need fixing, but giving me a chance to would be recommended instead of continuing to attack the current beta version with the same reused child porn jokes now wouldn't it? (I better watch out though you and your buddies might dumb vote this reply as quick as you can.)[/QUOTE]
Okay now you're just getting silly.
By the way I find it [I]really[/I] creepy that you put the nipples in the normal map
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/grEDX.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;37704946]ahahahahahahahaha even you
[img]http://i.imgur.com/OpVs3.png[/img][/QUOTE]
And what does this got to do with anything? I was asked if kids models was ok to release on the forum (no not pedo pics. Just kids models)
I said no due to the mature material there. Didn't feel appropriate. This has nothing to do with Plasmid's model. Thanks for taking it totally out of context you twat.
So it's either the scout's sex change version or the one that looks like she's 12-15. Dammit people pick one!
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;37705671]No, [I]Valve's[/I] guidelines for [I]their[/I] art style.
Like, you know, having hands twice the size, facial features with somewhat sharp edges, etc.
Okay now you're just getting silly.
By the way I find it [I]really[/I] creepy that you put the nipples in the normal map
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/grEDX.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Those arent nipples... thats just edges that got smashed together during the upper poly levels doing the sculpt in mudbox, its just a baking issue and more or less a topology issue since the torso of the shirt used part of the body as a base.
And if you want more proof look at the wireframe export the shirt into mudbox and you will see for yourself that it subdivides with wrinkles around the chest.
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;37705671]By the way I find it [I]really[/I] creepy that you put the nipples in the normal map[/QUOTE]
Oh well He is 12. This explains it all:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Rastifan;37705748]Oh well He is 12. This explains it all:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Of course, he knows what the real issue is with that but he wants more ratings. There really isnt any winning in this, I could say Ill fix it and ill get replies about age, I can say ill fix that and there will be comments about stlye its a silly loop around over and over, really.
btw max if I was going to put nipples in the normal map they wouldnt be point ass stars haha.
[QUOTE=plasmid;37705737]Those arent nipples... thats just edges that got smashed together during the upper poly levels doing the sculpt in mudbox, its just a baking issue and more or less a topology issue since the torso of the shirt used part of the body as a base.
And if you want more proof look at the wireframe export the shirt into mudbox and you will see for yourself that it subdivides with wrinkles around the chest.[/QUOTE]
Yup, absolutely.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/AECHy.png[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/lwabU.png[/img]
Absolutelyyyyyyyyyyyyy. [IMG]http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-stare.gif[/IMG]
This is getting creepier and creepier by the minute. D:
[QUOTE=plasmid;37705322]hows this for skin?
[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11830984/pictures/garrys%20mod/ragdols/new%20skin.PNG[/img]
[/QUOTE]
thunder thighs
[editline]17th September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;37705798]Yup, absolutely.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/AECHy.png[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/lwabU.png[/img]
Absolutelyyyyyyyyyyyyy. [IMG]http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-stare.gif[/IMG]
This is getting creepier and creepier by the minute. D:[/QUOTE]
Holy shit my sides. I'm actually laughing out loud.
Totally a baking problem, right son?
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;37705798]Yup, absolutely.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/AECHy.png[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/lwabU.png[/img]
Absolutelyyyyyyyyyyyyy. [IMG]http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-stare.gif[/IMG]
This is getting creepier and creepier by the minute. D:[/QUOTE]
Oh wooow here let me show you some examples of modeling when it comes to the chest, since everyone that has gone to one modeling class know the chest starts with a octagon shape from the chest and is extruded out ward and shaped ending up usually in a circle in the middle some choose to collapse the faces some dont.
At this fucking point you could point out anything really and make a scene out of it to gain rating.
[QUOTE=plasmid;37705847]Oh wooow here let me show you some examples of modeling when it comes to the chest, since everyone that has gone to one modeling class know the chest starts with a octagon shape from the chest and is extruded out ward and shaped ending up usually in a circle in the middle some choose to collapse the faces some dont.[/QUOTE]
It's funny because I actually kind of believe you here, keeping in mind that if you were trying to add nips to the normal map they wouldn't look so distorted.
I don't really care though, considering you draw/model loli so your credibility ended the second I noticed that. Everything you do is going to be taken one way or the other thanks to that.
Also, from checking out your DA, how dare you try to sexualize Shiro. Fuck that, man.
[QUOTE=Rayss;37705873]Also, from checking out your DA, how dare you try to sexualize Shiro. Fuck that, man.[/QUOTE]
I think you'll enjoy this as well: [url]http://plasmidgenedrawings.tumblr.com/[/url]
(warning: [del]not safe for work[/del] [del]not safe for life[/del] not safe for soul)
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;37705920]I think you'll enjoy this as well: [url]http://plasmidgenedrawings.tumblr.com/[/url]
(warning: [del]not safe for work[/del] [del]not safe for life[/del] not safe for soul)[/QUOTE]
Yeah I noticed that earlier hahah. That was the moment where my face got stuck in a cringe pose and I had to un-stick it surgically.
[QUOTE=Rayss;37705873]It's funny because I actually kind of believe you here, keeping in mind that if you were trying to add nips to the normal map they wouldn't look so distorted.
I don't really care though, considering you draw/model loli so your credibility ended the second I noticed that. Everything you do is going to be taken one way or the other thanks to that.
Also, from checking out your DA, how dare you try to sexualize Shiro. Fuck that, man.[/QUOTE]
You actually kind of believe me? Its a fact that its a way to model, Max is pointing out basically nothing and you people instantly agree with that shit here let me show you a assassins creed model
Take a look.. are those nipples? or is that simple they way most model breats to conserve polies without doing it row by row?
[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11830984/pictures/garrys%20mod/1.PNG[/img]
Also on the Tumblr link already explained on that too, commissions, others peoples requests to it :V your still using old material.
[QUOTE=plasmid;37705941]
Take a look.. are those nipples? or is that simple they way most model breats to conserve polies without doing it row by row?
[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11830984/pictures/garrys%20mod/1.PNG[/img][/QUOTE]
Pepperoni Nipples
[QUOTE=plasmid;37705847]Oh wooow here let me show you some examples of modeling when it comes to the chest, since everyone that has gone to one modeling class know the chest starts with a octagon shape from the chest and is extruded out ward and shaped ending up usually in a circle in the middle some choose to collapse the faces some dont.[/QUOTE]
Rebbacus has never went to a modelling class, yet she outperforms you by far — hell, the naked model for scout's mom she once did is reused by a shitload of other naked models. :)
[QUOTE=plasmid;37705941]You actually kind of believe me? Its a fact that its a way to model, Max is pointing out basically nothing and you people instantly agree with that shit here let me show you a assassins creed model
Take a look.. are those nipples? or is that simple they way most model breats to conserve polies without doing it row by row?
[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11830984/pictures/garrys%20mod/1.PNG[/img][/QUOTE]
I think the difference is that your Assassin's Creed model (hopefully) didn't start off by a creepy naked version, building off clothes on top of the naked model (which you did not even completely properly remove; [URL="http://i.imgur.com/szYVm.png"]it still clips through[/URL]).
Anyone (who does not mind using some eye bleach afterwards) can go look at the DigitalEro thread and see that this model was primarily meant for sex poses (the fact that she looks 12 adding on top of that, you know) — if it bugged you that much, you [I]would[/I] have cleared them away on the normal map, or just pushed those two vertices back in.
But you didn't. I wonder why.
It's not like you have a history of sexualized lolis or something. Nah. Must a completely unconscious decision. :v:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/wPCcY.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;37706010]I think the difference is that your Assassin's Creed model (hopefully) didn't start off by a creepy naked version, building off clothes on top of the naked model (which you did not even completely properly remove; [URL="http://i.imgur.com/szYVm.png"]it still clips through[/URL]).
Anyone (who does not mind using some eye bleach afterwards) can go look at the DigitalEro thread and see that this model was primarily meant for sex poses (the fact that she looks 12 adding on top of that, you know) — if it bugged you that much, you [I]would[/I] have cleared them away on the normal map, or just pushed those two vertices back in.
But you didn't. I wonder why.
It's not like you have a history of sexualized lolis or something. Nah. Must a completely unconscious decision. :v:[/QUOTE]
Oh well I cant keep rexplaining myself on the same stuff, and it would be unwise for me to continue fighting against a guy where the odds are all on his side.
The post before is a perfect example of that, I explained a modeling proccess and one guy throws a joke out while max goes to his heroic post and everyone rates.
Why still fight over it its not leading to somenthing...
Each human has his own taste/liking ppl doesnt like resident evil ppl do.
[QUOTE=icecub112;37706059]Each human has his own taste/liking ppl doesnt like resident evil ppl do.[/QUOTE]
AM I BEING TROLLED
[QUOTE=plasmid;37706038]Oh well I cant keep rexplaining myself on the same stuff, and it would be unwise for me to continue fighting against a guy where the odds are all on his side.
The post before is a perfect example of that, I explained a modeling proccess and one guy throws a joke out while max goes to his heroic post and everyone rates.[/QUOTE]
Everything he has pointed out is criticism, harsh maybe but its criticism.
Use it to improve not curl up in a ball because you can't take it and anyway, what did you expect when you posted it here, hugs and kisses?
[QUOTE=eddy-tt-;37706110]Everything he has pointed out is criticism, harsh maybe but its criticism.
Use it to improve not curl up in a ball because you can't take it and anyway, what did you expect when you posted it here, hugs and kisses?[/QUOTE]
The polygon stuff isnt criticism thats just trying to get a rise out of people, I accept the real criticism just fine and I will fix them stated it plenty of times now, but arguing against stupid stuff which loops around over and over gets old quick and my explanations dont mean much if they get intentionally misunderstood.
What more do I need to say here that I havent already? max has already done a personal search on me at every website I use *kinda low*
[QUOTE=plasmid;37706140]The polygon stuff isnt criticism thats just trying to get a rise out of people, I accept the real criticism just fine and I will fix them stated it plenty of times now, but arguing against stupid stuff which loops around over and over gets old quick and my explanations dont mean much if they get intentionally misunderstood[/QUOTE]
Everyone keeps saying people say shit just for ratings or "to get a rise out of people".
I seriously just don't get this argument haha
[QUOTE=plasmid;37706140]The polygon stuff isnt criticism thats just trying to get a rise out of people, I accept the real criticism just fine and I will fix them stated it plenty of times now, but arguing against stupid stuff like which loops around over and over gets old quick and my explanations dont mean much if they get intentionally misunderstood[/QUOTE]
No that was actually criticism as well, the point he made for that is they shouldn't be like that on the shirt, they should be more rounded off instead of a pointed cone. I agree with max it looks odd, on the nude version however it makes more sense but on clothed it doesn't look right.
Some of us are actually trying to help you with suggestions but you keep throwing it back in our faces.
[QUOTE=eddy-tt-;37706163]No that was actually criticism as well, the point he made for that is they shouldn't be like that on the shirt, they should be more rounded off instead of a pointed cone. I agree with max it looks odd, on the nude version however it makes more sense but on clothed it doesn't look right.
Some of us are actually trying to help you with suggestions but you keep throwing it back in our faces.[/QUOTE]
didnt see a point made or that actually said, I saw him say though
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;37705798]Yup, absolutely.This is getting creepier and creepier by the minute. D:[/QUOTE]
and then linking to some commissions I did to show everyone how funny and strange I look.
so your right I jumped to conclusions I should have thought that meant round them off.
[QUOTE=eddy-tt-;37706110]Everything he has pointed out is criticism, harsh maybe but its criticism.
Use it to improve not curl up in a ball because you can't take it and anyway, what did you expect when you posted it here, hugs and kisses?[/QUOTE]
I just went to the link in your title.
I saw the subtitle below the gif before the gif even loaded.
I didn't leave though. I just had to see the gif before I left.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH MEEEE
Ok we get it you don't like the model. No reason to attack the author on things that have little or no bearing here, like what he does in his free time. There are legitimate issues with the mesh and design that have been raised, but if you're just here to attack the man, go away. plasmid is obviously willing to field concerns and is still working on it, but posting links to tumblr accounts is not constructive or appropriate.
Organic modeling is one of the most difficult things you can do, especially when you're trying to match a specific art style on top of it. Regardless of its intended use, it deserves credit for even getting in the ball park. You want to insult him on the why, this is not the place to do it. The model and texture quality are decent, not great; there's a lot of room for improvement here. I don't do enough TF2 related work to give any overly useful advice, but I've said what I can.
Wow.
I saw 60 new posts, and stopped by to see if there had been any new updates on the model.
Instead, all I saw was a bunch of people flinging shit at Plasmid, and Plasmid flinging a bunch of shit at other people. There was a bit of other people flinging shit at [i]other[/i] other people, too. And through it all, absolutely nothing was achieved. Through these two and a half pages of shit-flinging, absolutely no progress was made in anything at all, other than in everyone involved making themselves look like easily-riled-up asses.
Just imagine all the productive things that could have been done in the time you people spent flinging shit around. Now all we have is a thread that took the concept of "organic alternative" far too literally when it came to painting the walls.
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