[QUOTE=Taggart;26696619]no
he IS in the Military[/QUOTE]
this
why don't you add Chin strap?
[QUOTE=ddok1994;26706562]why don't you add Chin strap?[/QUOTE]
agreed.
[QUOTE=sgt.lolcat;26697437]you should skin these models to desert camo like rustys first national guard models[/QUOTE]
why dont you just use Rustys first national guard models, or at least the skins
[QUOTE=Araknid;26707134]agreed.[/QUOTE]
Well, where am i supposed to get a realistic chinstrap? A chinstrap that really looks like a chinstrp from a PASGT helmet.
how about... insurgency USMC? I know it's not PASGT but.. it'll be fitted well..
and someone should rip helmet ghillie from MW2 russian airborne.
It's not even close to PASGT though. With the modern stuff it's still a noticeable difference but when you go from modern Marine vests to Army PASGT, the only people that won't look wrong to are oblivious civs who probably wouldn't care enough to make military poses anyway, or retards who believe everything they see in CoD.
[img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100118203024/callofduty/images/8/86/Inv6.png[/img]
someone should rip off helmet camo from left guy's helmet.
Honestly it would look a lot better if someone at least halfway competent made it from scratch, it's just a couple of alpha-mapped planes
[QUOTE=zupadupazupadude;26709848]Well, where am i supposed to get a realistic chinstrap? A chinstrap that really looks like a chinstrp from a PASGT helmet.[/QUOTE]
get the one that Romka used on his original HECU for HL1
[url]http://www.garrysmod.org/downloads/?a=view&id=51063[/url]
^ that contains them
[QUOTE=zupadupazupadude;26709848]Well, where am i supposed to get a realistic chinstrap? A chinstrap that really looks like a chinstrp from a PASGT helmet.[/QUOTE]
The best thing I could suggest is to use the chinstrap on the chinese helmet in this bf2 pack. [url]http://www.garrysmod.org/downloads/?a=view&id=18084[/url]
or if you have to, use the chinstraps on the older hl1 hd grunts like Taggart suggested. PASGT helmets back then had pretty simple chinstraps.
[img]http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/pasgt.jpg[/img]
Also have you considered adding rolled up sleeves, possibly as a body-group? It think it would add a little more variety, but I know thats pushing it.
[img]http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/Assets/Still/1989/Air_Force/DF-ST-89-05314.JPG[/img]
Keep up the good work! These models look better with every update!
Second the rolled up sleeves. Also, heck, you could just use that entire helmet.
Snap
[QUOTE=rossmum;26699869]this[/QUOTE]
Oh thats awesome. What branch are you in?
Hello, I was just looking around here and since WIC is in 1989, I would like to point out a few inaccuracies. First is the ammo pouches, it looks like you're using late 90's MOLLE pouches, an ALICE set up looks like this-
[url]http://media.photobucket.com/image/ALICE%20gear%20setup/retrohead01/PICT0360.jpg[/url]
The only thing wrong with that setup is that the compass pouch should be on the suspenders.
Another thing is that if these are Marines, they should be wearing 8 point utility covers and the Flak Jackets would be in woodland pattern, not ERDL which was stopped being used by the USMC in 1981 when Woodland made it's debut. I will not say anything about the goggles, but they are incorrect, they should be Sun, wind, dust goggles, but those just look like a smaller version of them. I also do not believe a Marine would put a peace symbol on his flak jacket, if it was referenced from Full Metal Jacket with the peace button, a superior officer would probably have ripped that off. On each side of the buttpack should be a canteen. The standard gear on an ALICE belt in this time period would be 4 Magazine pouches, 2 canteens, bayonet, buttpack, 2 canteens, and your compass pouch. Sorry if I sound like an accuracy freak, but if you want to be accurate for the time period, you may want to change some of the stuff on the model. It looks really nice if you were going for a late 1990's service member, but for 1989, no.
[QUOTE=MarineFreakUSMC;26735675]Oh thats awesome. What branch are you in?[/QUOTE]
Army. Royal Australian Infantry Corps, as a reservist
[QUOTE=Gunny97;26739733]Hello, I was just looking around here and since WIC is in 1989, I would like to point out a few inaccuracies. First is the ammo pouches, it looks like you're using late 90's MOLLE pouches, an ALICE set up looks like this-
[url]http://media.photobucket.com/image/ALICE%20gear%20setup/retrohead01/PICT0360.jpg[/url]
The only thing wrong with that setup is that the compass pouch should be on the suspenders.
Another thing is that if these are Marines, they should be wearing 8 point utility covers and the Flak Jackets would be in woodland pattern, not ERDL which was stopped being used by the USMC in 1981 when Woodland made it's debut. I will not say anything about the goggles, but they are incorrect, they should be Sun, wind, dust goggles, but those just look like a smaller version of them. I also do not believe a Marine would put a peace symbol on his flak jacket, if it was referenced from Full Metal Jacket with the peace button, a superior officer would probably have ripped that off. On each side of the buttpack should be a canteen. The standard gear on an ALICE belt in this time period would be 4 Magazine pouches, 2 canteens, bayonet, buttpack, 2 canteens, and your compass pouch. Sorry if I sound like an accuracy freak, but if you want to be accurate for the time period, you may want to change some of the stuff on the model. It looks really nice if you were going for a late 1990's service member, but for 1989, no.[/QUOTE]
Its US Army and thats Woodland on the flak jacket.
[QUOTE=rossmum;26741634]Army. Royal Australian Infantry Corps, as a reservist[/QUOTE]
Dude. Youre awesome.
[QUOTE=rossmum;26741634]Army. Royal Australian Infantry Corps, as a reservist[/QUOTE]
That's awesome, hope you like being in the military.
[QUOTE=zupadupazupadude;26749811]Its US Army and thats Woodland on the flak jacket.[/QUOTE] That is NOT army with a USMC EGA on the flak jacket, ddok also stated that the camouflage was ERDL on the Flak Jacket.
Woodland is the poor man's name for ERDL
[QUOTE=Taggart;26759165]Woodland is the poor man's name for ERDL[/QUOTE]Actually no, ERDL was a smaller version of woodland, it was used in very little numbers in Vietnam, usually LRRP guys, but after Vietnam it became standard issue to Marines until M81 Woodland was introduced in 1981. Woodland is basically a larger version of ERDL. Also where can I download ddok1994's models? Haven't seen a link on here, I want to check them out, I like them, but for the time period they're inaccurate. Plus the cap is wrong for Marines.
ERDL is still counted as woodland by poor men, as is M81, my point still stands
[QUOTE=Gunny97;26758265]That is NOT army with a USMC EGA on the flak jacket, ddok also stated that the camouflage was ERDL on the Flak Jacket.[/QUOTE]
That IS army, it doesn't have an EGA on it, that screenshot you saw on the first page was posted by someone else who made their own modification. Woodland and ERDL look VERY similar, I'm pretty sure he intended it to be Woodland and I think you're still looking at ddok's screen-shot.
[QUOTE=Gunny97;26758265]On each side of the buttpack should be a canteen. The standard gear on an ALICE belt in this time period would be 4 Magazine pouches, 2 canteens, bayonet, buttpack, 2 canteens, and your compass pouch.[/QUOTE]
The equipment on the ALICE web-gear would depend on what ever the soldier chose to carry with him. And as for the goggles, he already got rid of them. Also I think some of you guys are being a little too picky. If I wanted to I could point out many other small inaccuracies but overall I'm pretty satisfied considering how much more INACCURATE these could be.
[QUOTE=Taggart;26761166]ERDL is still counted as woodland by poor men, as is M81, my point still stands[/QUOTE] ERDL is pretty much woodland, but people that do not know the difference will call both patterns woodland, and people that do know the difference will probably use the proper nomenclature for each pattern. An easy way to remember them is that ERDL is smaller and older, woodland is bigger and newer. Every woodland looking pattern you see pre 1981, is ERDL. About 1983 or so you will probably see all M81 woodland. It is incorrect to call ERDL woodland as it is to call woodland ERDL, they are both different patterns.
[url]http://www.3rd-force-recon-company.com/erdl001s.jpg[/url] - ERDL Blouse
[url]http://images.bidorbuy.co.za/user_images/652/425652_091024183941_us_woodland_shirt_r.JPG[/url] - Woodland Blouse
The differences are pretty easy to spot.
[editline]17th December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Triggerhappy117;26761289]That IS army, it doesn't have an EGA on it, that screenshot you saw on the first page was posted by someone else who made their own modification. Woodland and ERDL look VERY similar, I'm pretty sure he intended it to be Woodland and I think you're still looking at ddok's screen-shot.
The equipment on the ALICE web-gear would depend on what ever the soldier chose to carry with him. And as for the goggles, he already got rid of them. Also I think some of you guys are being a little too picky. If I wanted to I could point out many other small inaccuracies but overall I'm pretty satisfied considering how much more INACCURATE these could be.[/QUOTE] I was reffering to ddok's models, and as for the topic models, the gear for the time period is inaccurate. I'm not saying I don't like them, I do, they're just not correct for the time period. Everything except the gear is correct. The variation of ALICE gear is what most troops had on their war belt, it's the same configuration my father used and the same configuration I see in many pictures, except for some troops who carried sidearms, they'd take away 2 magazine pouches and replace it with an M12 holster and a pistol magazine pouch. EDIT - ddok1994 stated he reskinned the flak jacket to ERDL, sorry if I caused confusion, I should've been more specific on the model I was referring to.
EDIT - I was just playing around with the topic models, they're pretty nice, I just wish they had ALICE gear and they'd be perfect. I wish I could get ddok's but I do not know if he released them or not. I give these models a 9/10. Good job.
Man. All this talk about gear, ERDL, and Woodland makes me wanna buy ERDL BDUs, some ALICE pouches + suspenders, and go full 'nam
and hi-jack a school bus??/
[QUOTE=W0w00t;26766724]Man. All this talk about gear, ERDL, and Woodland makes me wanna buy ERDL BDUs, some ALICE pouches + suspenders, and go full 'nam
and hi-jack a school bus??/[/QUOTE] The Vietnam gear is actually M1956 or M1961 gear. It's almost the same as ALICE but some of the pouches, belt buckle, suspenders, etc are different. Here is a good vietnam gear resource-
[url]http://vietnamgear.com/[/url]
Plus ERDL is pretty damn expensive, around $300 for the blouse and trousers.
Sorry for going off topic, but just thought I should add that because he asked haha.
You know what ill fix the gear a bit so it looks like its really from 1989.
*Snipped. Dumb question.*
[QUOTE=zupadupazupadude;26772000]You know what ill fix the gear a bit so it looks like its really from 1989.[/QUOTE] Here's a picture of an ALICE gear setup, should be a good base-
[url]http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/uploads//monthly_04_2010/post-8022-1271092684.jpg[/url] It'd be smart to replace the Etool with another canteen as troops would attach the etool to their ALICE pack to save room on their belt for more pouches and such. You should just make the ALICE a body group, as some people will probably still want the regular gear.
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