Mario's Guide To Ragdolling

[hiryu64]

He's been...reinstated?

:wooow: I never thought I'd see the day.

(P.S. I know, this thread is really old...more people should read this anyway.)

[DarthStardust]

Wow this thread is useful to the max. Also, mariokart is unbanned? Wow.

[XenoAisam]

yeah! useful for someone didn't have softimage
but how about facial boning?

[recondylan]

Dude release that model you showed

[RealGizmo]

I have some unused space on my free webhost, I could host this there in hmtl format for people that don't like pdf.

[mariokart64n]

sounds like a semi good idea... though I have some hosting space from a friends hentai board (paid for) so that might be a bit stable and secure then just a free host.

I'll look into it, since my alt I used is now permabanned.

the reason for the alt was because you can't reply to your yourself right after posting. and the reason for needing to double post was because each message you make, has like a 500 character limit and only 10 images per post. so i needed to make a chain of posts to fit the entire tut. ..this was probably a very bad idea

[RealGizmo]

oh, hentai board, pm me the url :P
I'm going to start modeling now, wish me luck

Edit: I can only find plugin for 3ds max 9, I need for 8 :/
Edit2: Nevermind, found here: [url]http://chaosincarnate.net/cannonfodder/3dsmax.php[/url]

[TH89]

[QUOTE=mariokart64n]I'll look into it, since my alt I used is now permabanned.[/QUOTE]
Taken care of. You've been doing good work here and there's no reason to leave it banned I think

[mariokart64n]

BUMP!

> Section 2 Updated(compiling a prop).. or well I'm going to update it in a few minutes. If I get auto-banned, it's because I had so many typos my smartness went to negative million!

Also I'd Like to ask if anyone would be kind enough to give me a small hosting area to host this tutorial and some files (maybe 50mb space needed)

I'm not interested in any free web hosting bull. need a place where my shits going to stay for a long time and not have banner ads and crap.

[Lillwasa]

So you updated the tutorial, that's awesome! :D
Also I followed your tutorial and tried making my own ragdoll but i get this compiling error:
ERROR: short conversion out of range 37626
ERROR: Aborted Processing on 'Model.mdl'

any idea whats wrong?

[mariokart64n]

do you mind sending me your files? smds qc... just PM them

I can't remember what causes that error. it could be something minor like a duplicated bone name.

[Lillwasa]

sure i'm uploading them now

[mariokart64n]

I was able to configure your model, but I wasn't able to resolve the problem. ??it has me really baffled.

here's what I did;

-Imported your Reference.SMD
-In 3dmax went into Polygon Mode
-Selected the lower half (pelvis and below)
-Exited Polygon Mode (do not de-select your selection), then SAVED as issic.MAX

[IMG]http://i35.tinypic.com/2dlojo5.jpg[/IMG]

-Re-Entered Polygon Mode pressed DELETED. Let try to EDIT in SKIN mode to re-initialize the weights
-EXIT SKIN EDIT, the EXPORTED SMD as "reference1.smd" (do not save changes to issic.max)
-Back in max Reload the Issic.max file, FILE > Recent > Issic.max
-Enter Polygon Mode, then at the top app bar EDIT > Select Invert
-Now the other half of the model should be selected, torso, chest, head, arms...etc.
-Then press DELETED.
-Again go in and out of SKIN, so the weights fix themselves.
-Then Export as reference2.smd
-Compile with modified QC
- this for some reason works? doesn't make sense but it works. your model is only 13 000 which is low, and should have worked. ohwell this is a work around till someone else offers an opinion.

$cd "R:\_3DMODELS\"
$surfaceprop "flesh"
$modelname "Isaac.mdl"
$cdmaterials "models\lillwasa\"

$model studio "reference1.smd"
$model studio "reference2.smd"
$sequence ragdoll 	"ragdoll.smd" FPS 30 		activity ACT_DIERAGDOLL 1
$collisionjoints "phymodel.smd" {
	$mass 60.0
	$inertia 10.00
	$damping 0.01
	$rotdamping 1.50
	$rootbone "Bone01"

}

[Lillwasa]

cool will look into that when i get time thanks for the help :D

[Glaber]

Are you sure you don't need a bone for the props? Because my exporter wouldn't work without one and the skin modifer.

[Ard Patrinel]

Honestly, Mario, I swear. You just keep getting better. Now...please do one for XSI? All the ones I've ever found SUCKED.

[Lillwasa]

[QUOTE=Glaber]Are you sure you don't need a bone for the props? Because my exporter wouldn't work without one and the skin modifer.[/QUOTE]
I followed this tutorial and it works great for me, both prop and ragdoll.

[Glaber]

Must be my exporter then.

[Lillwasa]

[QUOTE=Glaber]Must be my exporter then.[/QUOTE]
try this [url]http://www.wunderboy.org/blog/175[/url]
if you have 3ds max 9 that is

[mariokart64n]

could be your exporter, the MDL compilers all work on the same DOS tool.

i'm using CannonFodders, are you using wunderboy's SMD plugs? that may be why. in that case, yes you may need to create 1 bone, add a SKIN modifier to it and add the bone to the skin list. then export

[Lillwasa]

[QUOTE=mariokart64n]could be your exporter, the MDL compilers all work on the same DOS tool.

i'm using CannonFodders, are you using wunderboy's SMD plugs? that may be why. in that case, yes you may need to create 1 bone, add a SKIN modifier to it and add the bone to the skin list. then export[/QUOTE]
i use wunderboy's smd plugins and I don't have to create bones for props.

[mariokart64n]

hm.. well for the record I'm using wunderboy's MDLstudioGUI or GUIstudioMDL whatever it's called.

..not sure what's causing the crash.

[Glaber]

The exporter I was using kept asking for "multimaterials" but this one by wunderboy is wunderbul! (sic on purpose) It doesn't ask for this crazy multi, whatever, and I can start bringing in the Satam Swatbots with it.

Edit: do any and all textures have to be "uv"ed? Or do th texture paths in the model have to match up with the qc file?

I mainly ask because of this:
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/Glaber/gm_flatgrass0003.png[/IMG]

[Sandeno-2]

Why were the QC lines removed?

[mariokart64n]

what?

[Ard Patrinel]

[QUOTE=Glaber;13130320][IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/Glaber/gm_flatgrass0003.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]

That's a new one to me too. Vertex format not supported in the material? Weird.

[Glaber]

I'm getting an error with my compiler (the one used in the prop tutioral) saying that it can't find the reference smd.

GUIStudioMDL 2.2/Source - © 2007 Neil 'Jed' Jedrzejewski - http://www.wunderboy.org/

Loaded QC file - "C:\Documents and Settings\windowsxp\My Documents\ragdoll.qc"

Created command line: "F:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\suroguner\sourcesdk\bin\ep1\bin\studiomdl.exe" -game "f:\program files\steam\steamapps\suroguner\half-life 2 deathmatch\hl2mp" -notxbox "C:\Documents and Settings\windowsxp\My Documents\ragdoll.qc"

qdir:    "c:\documents and settings\windowsxp\my documents\"
gamedir: "f:\program files\steam\steamapps\suroguner\half-life 2 deathmatch\hl2mp\"
g_path:  "ragdoll"
Working on "ragdoll.qc"
ERROR: c:\documents and settings\windowsxp\my documents\ragdoll.qc(6): - could not load file 'F:\Program Files\Valve\Steam\SteamApps\suroguner\sourcesdk\bin\ep1\bin/reference.smd'
ERROR: Aborted Processing on 'RDOmochao.mdl'

Edit: Found my error. My steam directory is in programfiles instead of the Valve directory

[Glaber]

Mario. Something is wrong with the tutioral for props. at the part where you do the batch conversion I do what's written and it still turns invisable. The paths are set correctly, but I thing it may have something to do with a set or unset option on the advanced tab.

Edit: Somehow transparent is set to 1.
* Manually resets*

[mariokart64n]

hrm, its 3AM so my heads pretty baked. but post your project folder (QC and SMDs) I'll tinker with it

[Glaber]

I'm afraid my "folder" is more like Folders. Let me start on a new prop and I'll get you the files. The Jiggy, Note, Omocfhao prop, and Tails' Car had their vmt's modified manually so the texture would appear. *Goes to grab B-K's Honeycomb*