[QUOTE=Rusty100;37851403]not only do they look like fakefactory heads, they all look like oversized baby heads. their proportions are always so fucked up to the point where i think they're caricatures of babies[/QUOTE]
you give FF too much credit. i'm guessing the FF heads only look close from your perspective because of the higher quality textures and their huge forehead which i agree is a big flaw. as for that, the heads from FF actually look like monster-like experiments gone wrong. i don't think i need to present to you how the heads and faces look, it would be a nightmare to the eyes of anyone who is sane enough.
If the BMS heads weren't so massive I think they'd be fine.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;37851403]not only do they look like fakefactory heads, they all look like oversized baby heads. their proportions are always so fucked up to the point where i think they're caricatures of babies[/QUOTE]
you must have some better heads for me then...
I'll wait for it.
Reminds me of one of those pictures where it's a person in the middle of a picture, then a closeup of their face is in the corner.
[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;37839454]I can try it.
Be aware that when I say I love making flexes, that doesn't mean with necessity they come out looking decent.
So I'd be doing this more as a personal project than anything else - and if anyone finds themselves actually wanting them, then that's even better.
Toss them my way via a PM or whatever whenever you want. I'll slowly work on them.
If anyone else wants to work on them, though, be my guest. Don't wait on me, because chances are I won't even finish - and even if I do somehow finish, they'll probably be really crappy anyways.
If I get my hands on them, I think I'm going to do facial-structure flexes, before doing actual faceposing flexes, though.[/QUOTE]
grab some custom face models from skyrim or oblivion; they're built for facegen which works in the same way as the BMS heads.
[QUOTE=-Rusty-;37852074]If the BMS heads weren't so massive I think they'd be fine.[/QUOTE]
Another problem is they're not as varied as they might seem. Apart from all having huge foreheads, they all have small chins and jawlines that are too close to the mouth. It makes them all look like they came from the same mother. They just don't look varied and all have too much in common as well as this weird cartoony look to them.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;37853279]Another problem is they're not as varied as they might seem. Apart from all having huge foreheads, they all have small chins and jawlines that are too close to the mouth. It makes them all look like they came from the same mother. They just don't look varied and all have too much in common as well as this weird cartoony look to them.[/QUOTE]
Yes but bms is running the limits of the source engine as it is, if they were to add any more varients of heads the game would likely be even more unstable.
[QUOTE=overwatch pvt;37853689]Yes but bms is running the limits of the source engine as it is, if they were to add any more varients of heads the game would likely be even more unstable.[/QUOTE]
Not really. They could have easily had have about 4-6 base meshes for each gender which to work from. Instead of having only one. TBH I'll probably be using them in future stuff, next to citizen heads though.
It would be pretty cool if custom heads were made using the Black Mesa Source face system to help bridge the gap between these and the citizen models. I don't mind them that much, but I do feel that they have something off about them at times. Maybe I just like the citizen models too much to see them be replaced, though.
[QUOTE=itak365;37856844]It would be pretty cool if custom heads were made using the Black Mesa Source face system to help bridge the gap between these and the citizen models. I don't mind them that much, but I do feel that they have something off about them at times. Maybe I just like the citizen models too much to see them be replaced, though.[/QUOTE]
the face generation system isn't really extensive enough to remake the old citizen heads with. you could maybe get the vague outline of them down, but you'd probably need to modify the heads themselves in a modelling program if you wanted to get a worthwhile result.
[QUOTE=dragbody;37856790]Ripping Inversion models...
[URL=http://imgbox.com/adyvYTBj][IMG]http://t.imgbox.com/adyvYTBj.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/QUOTE]
The T-shirted guy in the corner would be cool for a Short sleeved citizens v2.
Honestly, I think I would preferred citizen/Black Mesa heads headhacked onto clean L4D/L4D2 common infected, but that's just me, I guess. The model you're talking about would be okay, too.
[QUOTE=Skerion;37857959]Honestly, I think I would preferred citizen/Black Mesa heads headhacked onto clean L4D/L4D2 common infected, but that's just me, I guess. The model you're talking about would be okay, too.[/QUOTE]
there's still that t-shirt model from Black Ops that nobody rigged, the one that Mason uses when he's being interrogated. that one was pretty good.
[QUOTE=Cone;37857226]the face generation system isn't really extensive enough to remake the old citizen heads with. you could maybe get the vague outline of them down, but you'd probably need to modify the heads themselves in a modelling program if you wanted to get a worthwhile result.[/QUOTE]
I didn't necessarily mean the citizen heads themselves, although that would be rather cool. I just meant random, new heads created by the community.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;37851403]not only do they look like fakefactory heads, they all look like oversized baby heads. their proportions are always so fucked up to the point where i think they're caricatures of babies[/QUOTE]
You sound like you're becoming the Johncage of BMS heads.
Rakks, threshers, and [del]bonerf-[/del]Bullymongs.
[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16145629/Gmod/RakkTest.jpg[/img]
[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16145629/Gmod/ThresherTest.jpg[/img]
[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16145629/Gmod/BonerfartsTest.jpg[/img]
[IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/wvhtkrmiceuonl4/bms_retexturing.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/34csgureebfr9jn/bms_retexturing2.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/9qqmud78ryc8x6l/bms_retexturing3.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/wr0q3y57ob87ohm/bms_retexturing4.jpg[/IMG]
just re-texturing BMS head.
need to fix more
What happened to his face down left pic?
That looks really bad.
he's got the glazed-over bug eyes of a man who's been gutshot and left to burn in the hot Nevada sun.
[QUOTE=minson97;37870950][IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/9qqmud78ryc8x6l/bms_retexturing3.jpg[/IMG]
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Those EYES.
[QUOTE=minson97;37870950][IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/wvhtkrmiceuonl4/bms_retexturing.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/34csgureebfr9jn/bms_retexturing2.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/9qqmud78ryc8x6l/bms_retexturing3.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/wr0q3y57ob87ohm/bms_retexturing4.jpg[/IMG]
just re-texturing BMS head.
need to fix more[/QUOTE]
Half-dead got a bald spot.
[IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/34csgureebfr9jn/bms_retexturing2.jpg[/IMG]
Hey there, buddy. wanna go have fun?
that looks better than the regular bms head texturing
[IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12318809/Hush.png[/IMG]
still needs alot of work. i need to fix his eyes.
[IMG]http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m13/_koutetsu_/angel.jpg[/IMG]
The start of some angel warrior or some shit.
No idea where to find good feathery wings that are already rigged, though.
[QUOTE=minson97;37870950]
[t]https://dl.dropbox.com/s/34csgureebfr9jn/bms_retexturing2.jpg[/t]
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I looked at that and saw Elija Wood.
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