I went into pause and dumped the RAM while in a codec conversation with cortney. I'll probe the RAM file and see if the model is in there
[QUOTE=frankaster;39768909]i didn't said they were poorly detailed on the contrary i said that the game uses characters like the ones only used on cutscenes on the previous gen as gameplay assets... characters are not as high as MGS4 quality... current hardwere can put that kind of characters running without problem in gameplay... but maybe im wrong and the whole codec characters are full, and in previous games and on rising they are the "full detail" ones since they're not interactive... for example look how detailed is the colonel on MGS2, or during the codec scenes snake is the highpoly upper half(sema as the cinematic one), while on gameplay is a low poly character like every one else.
for example this high detail cecile model can be a gameplay asset, unlike psp/ps2 games that can only display character models like that during non interactive segments (NO AI and all that stuff) you might zoom in or like document of mgs2 rotate the camera and stuff but the characters all have prebaked animations.
so cecile can be a rising codec contact and she will use less system resources than a "recorded" animation and takes less space on the disc too, just the 3d model, some animation and oviously the audio.
[IMG]http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/204/b/b/metal_gear_solid__peace_walker_cecile_2_0_by_frankaster1987-d58cxxi.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
We'll need to see what mariokart finds to really know.
[editline]2nd March 2013[/editline]
Oh hey, Mariokarts online.
Hey, whenever you can, give me or ninjanub a link to the models, he's got a Rising boner and he'll rig whatever you throw at him.
@AaronM202
stop harassing me please
@frankaster
I'm impressed by your deductive work :D your hunch paid off
thanks... Im no expert but by studying the MGS2/3/PO/PW and some 4 i kinda understand on my limited knowledge how mgs games are made, and since MGS2 they are kind of the same, just the texture work keeps getting better, and all the lights and noises from current gen hardware (like blooms and other post process stuff) but at the end is kind of the same, just finally we no longer have low res characters during gameplayso all characters have eyballs and detailed noses and mouths instead of simple texture... peace walker being the exception, i can understand why on psp, but the HD editions might been benefited with at least keeping the high detail snake head... there's no reason for keeping the old low-res one
.. just to continue with my deduction during the original MGS3 development maybe because they got all this ungle shit they had to put just "photos" on the codec, at least it gave it the retro-feel, but originally the game was suposed to run 60fps like MGS2... but again all the stuff happening the ps2 coudn't handle it... so they got stuck by 30 frames and no RAM for animated codec characters, wonder what the escuse was on twin snakes, but i believe they didn't wanted to animate more codec sequences and instead just re use the awesome shinkawa art for codecs...
glad could help getting new models... half models but the pants, legs and skirts can be eather molded or adapted from somewhere else... so the job is "half done"
no pun intended
Wow. I'm actually surprised that they used models for the codecs
also that means we gor the african president model... guess he'll be as popular as ames or president baker from older games
Oh wow, I was under the impression that the codecs were pre-rendered this entire time.
How wrong I was.
[QUOTE=mariokart64n;39769203]@AaronM202
stop harassing me please
@frankaster
[URL]http://filesmelt.com/dl/mgrr_codec_mdls.zip[/URL]
I'm impressed by your deductive work :D your hunch paid off
[IMG]http://i47.tinypic.com/5lugsx.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/4uxogn.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Dude thanks for posting them online! :D
But unfortunatly filesmelt seems to be down.
Would you mind uploading them elsewhere ?
Thanks for the amazing work! :D
[B]EDIT:[/B]Nevermind the download worked again!
It looks amazing dude thanks for your work! :D
Any chance we're going to see the other models soon aswell :D?
Now that I actually look, I see what you mean by low-res textures... Eugh... Fortunately we have enough talent around here to fix 'em up. Hopefully.
Wait so there's still a chance of me getting my hands on the generic pmc guys?
[t]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120611142705/metalgear/images/2/2c/Mgrf2000.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=pvt.jenkins;39770886]Wait so there's still a chance of me getting my hands on the generic pmc guys?
[t]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120611142705/metalgear/images/2/2c/Mgrf2000.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Anything that shows up outside of cutscenes should be doable.
I don't remember if the PMC troops show up during actual gameplay or not though.
[QUOTE=ILikeSharks;39770928]Anything that shows up outside of cutscenes should be doable.
I don't remember if the PMC troops show up during actual gameplay or not though.[/QUOTE]
no, they don't. unless my memory is already fuzzy.
[QUOTE=ILikeSharks;39770928]Anything that shows up outside of cutscenes should be doable.
I don't remember if the PMC troops show up during actual gameplay or not though.[/QUOTE]
Are there any kind of generic PMC guys that are seen out of cutscene? I seem to recall there were these other guys that wore woodland camo.
[QUOTE=DarkKrystal;39770530]Now that I actually look, I see what you mean by low-res textures... Eugh... Fortunately we have enough talent around here to fix 'em up. Hopefully.[/QUOTE]
once I get my hands on it I'll start asap ;)
[B]EDIT: [/B]​ And no the PMC's just get slaughtered in the vid and other then that all you get is the eum... marshel pmc's ? forgot what they were called but I believe marshel company had them.
and mariokart, could you post or pm me the textures so I can have a go at upping the details and size of the txturemaps ?
Those guys look just like the MGS4 guys, shame nobody ports from those games!
the way you guys keep frantically talking about rigging and upping texture size is stressful
could you guys maybe wait? until shits finished or possibly he releases a script so we can go about it on or own? I'd hate to imagin marios inbox right now.
Yeah I can imagine he's getting spammed right about now :/
I was only offering it to help him out so he wouldnt have to do the texture stuff aswell.
Kindof taking a load off of him sort of say.
yeah there are quite a few of PMs.. I'm not responding to alot of them since most just ask for models.
When I say no to people they get angry, so I just ignore them and don't respond to begin with. Seems people handle being in the dark better then being faced with the truth of rejection.
The reason I'm not releasing the script is the same reason I'm not sending you guy's the models.
I just feel there is a great ignorance about how these models are obtained, and also an abuse with these models afterwards.
I'll probably release Raiden when I'm feeling like it. But I was only interested in the girls, [Mistral,Courtney,Sunny].. so I'll be focusing my time on those.
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well then
i was looking forward to rigging those
but oh well, you just, keep doing your thing :v
[editline]2nd March 2013[/editline]
but still, I mean if you're just going to tease people with the models, what's the point, really
may as well just not post, instead of giving people false hopes
ok, then I'll stop posting, sorry
Seriously though, what do you mean with abuse?
Mingeposes?
[QUOTE=SonicHitman;39768422]i can't be the only one that sees a resemblance in appearance with Yelena Fedorova from Deus Ex: Human Revolution?[/QUOTE]
Because Skrillex hair
[QUOTE=mariokart64n;39773710]yeah there are quite a few of PMs.. I'm not responding to alot of them since most just ask for models.
When I say no to people they get angry, so I just ignore them and don't respond to begin with. Seems people handle being in the dark better then being faced with the truth of rejection.
The reason I'm not releasing the script is the same reason I'm not sending you guy's the models.
I just feel there is a great ignorance about how these models are obtained, and also an abuse with these models afterwards.
I'll probably release Raiden when I'm feeling like it. But I was only interested in the girls, [Mistral,Courtney,Sunny].. so I'll be focusing my time on those.
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As expected, you simply came here to gloat and show-off, like always.
So... Does this mean the models are dead?
Guy's just back off, if mariokart wants to release them he will if not he wont.
I hope he will like many of you, but he's the one doing all of the work right now.
Just let him fiddle around with that stuff and he'll release them in due time.
[QUOTE=rensole;39774209]Guy's just back off, if mariokart wants to release them he will if not he wont.
I hope he will like many of you, but he's the one doing all of the work right now.
Just let him fiddle around with that stuff and he'll release them in due time.[/QUOTE]
No he won't he's been doing this kinda thing for quite a long time.
[QUOTE=pvt.jenkins;39774222]No he won't he's been doing this kinda thing for quite a long time.[/QUOTE]
Darn :/
Well anyone know what I need to learn to "rip" the models from the game ?
I'm quite new at hacking games but I'm fairly veteran when it comes to making models.
[QUOTE=pvt.jenkins;39774222]No he won't he's been doing this kinda thing for quite a long time.[/QUOTE]
Well that's extremely disappointing to know.
You know what, nah he's not doing this today. I'm mirroring the models he linked but later snipped.
[url]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50169265/mgrr_codec_mdls.zip[/url]
enjoy guys
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