rp_JanoobaCity_2009 Beta - Developers

I wouldn't call that a "revolutionary idea"... still, it looks nice.

Tought it would be a noob map because it has NOOB in its name rp_Ja[b]noob[/b]aCity_2009

Hey, anyone who has already commented on this come back and comment again. things are rapidly changing!

I love the new pic of the front of the mall. I love the modern theme, add a apple shop and try to make it look like one

[QUOTE=ssa gib A;15302909]Doesn't look that great, to be perfectly honest. Quite blocky and empty.[/QUOTE] Dude, are you an idiot!? He already said that hes working on the layout first. I'd also like to see one of your great fantastic maps that are 100% non blocky and just fucking sexy.

[QUOTE=THEWOLFERA;15319238]Dude, are you an idiot!? He already said that hes working on the layout first. I'd also like to see one of your great fantastic maps that are 100% non blocky and just fucking sexy.[/QUOTE] ....What he's done so far is not layout... Layout is FAR FAR different. This is a layout: [img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/BioTerrorFrog/cp_drylands_a3balance0000.jpg[/img] Or [img]http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/434057/chrono_ctfpush0001.png[/img] Not: [img]http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/6571/hl22009052716394165.png[/img]

[QUOTE=THEWOLFERA;15319238]Dude, are you an idiot!? He already said that hes working on the layout first. I'd also like to see one of your great fantastic maps that are 100% non blocky and just fucking sexy.[/QUOTE] Are you an idiot? You don't share your opinions and ideas in the Mapping Section! That would be stupid, because nobody wants to get community feedback here! Jesus christ people, nobody's attacking his map, they're just saying its plain in places and lacks alot of the details to keep up to standard. It's a work in progress, so give it some slack. But just because it's WIP, doesn't mean it is free from criticism either.

[QUOTE=Janooba;15257844]What? No ones gona tell me its blocky and its shit? Hmm... guess that comes later when my confidence is built up. On to something more serious. Take a look at picture six. I'm not sure why. but it doesn't matter where, or how many cubemaps I put i always get an annoying blue or pure white reflection. Help?[/QUOTE] troll alert.

[QUOTE=Lord Ned;15320248]....What he's done so far is not layout... Layout is FAR FAR different.[/QUOTE] Lord Ned. I never said this was a layout. Why do you insist on making me look like such an immature ass hole. All I've seen from you is negative. How about some positive once in awhile. I've read your other posts, you're not a bad guy. So why are you attacking me? Just so you know. I said "I am working on the layout" NOT "I have a layout" Read a little more carefully before you post. Also. That's a fucking old picture. Take a look at the OP I've updated almost every picture since then. EXAMPLE [img]http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5029/hl22009052907492127.png[/img] (I just fixed the texture on the front window(Not shown here). And yes it is off the ground, fixed) Now I'm going to get a ton of reply's saying "DUDE THEIR TRYING TO HELP!" What I've seen so far isn't help. Except from a select few like Mettalics and Jukka K. Btw. I am not yelling.

Okay, If that's no longer working on the layout; Blocky Boring No Theme No Lighting Scheme No Color Scheme Boring Were telling you what needs fixing. Were not going to hold your hand and tell you exactly how because then it won't be your map. if you ask nicely though, you might get help.

[QUOTE=Janooba;15321922]Just so you know. [b]I said "I am working on the layout"[/b] NOT "I have a layout"[/QUOTE] -.- READ! I [b]AM[/b] WORKING ON LAYOUT Either way. I am asking nicely now for you to give me the bad [b]with some good too[/b] In case you didn't catch that. The layout isn't finished, I am adding props and detailing to keep you guys happy. and I asked for you guys to tell me what you like about it as well as what you don't like And again in other words for you people who can't read My layout is being worked on at the moment and I am only detailing to stop the complaining Please tell me what looks bad [b]AS WELL AS[/b] what looks good (Not just bad!)

:/ Don't know what to say...it looks very blocky and the textures are you kno...make costum textures. And make it less blocky.

Great improvement since the old janooba city.

[QUOTE=Bulaba0;15321458]Are you an idiot? You don't share your opinions and ideas in the Mapping Section! That would be stupid, because nobody wants to get community feedback here! Jesus christ people, nobody's attacking his map, they're just saying its plain in places and lacks alot of the details to keep up to standard. It's a work in progress, so give it some slack. But just because it's WIP, doesn't mean it is free from criticism either.[/QUOTE] If you don't share your ideas that's stupid. People ask for ideas so they're maps can be better. Also, If you don't share your opinions, and everybody's personal opinions suck, you're gonna release a a boring, shitty map that nobody likes. After that you've wasted lot's of time. I do agree with the other things you said, though. [editline]07:20PM[/editline] [QUOTE=nerdygamer;15259806]You should add a better sign to pic 4. Not just a picture. And a little more detail to pic 7. Like mabye trim on the bottom and top and a couple of pictures and some new wallpaper. Also I would take the edges of the frig and round them and make it white.[/QUOTE] There should be more people like you on facepunch.

Allright... [QUOTE=Lord Ned;15256959]Sounds snotty to name a map after yourself.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Lord Ned;15258371]Fine; Blocky Lack of art style/direction Lack of significant lighting Lack of any sort of style Lack of detail Lack of detail Nothing looks interesting or stands out The only thing that looks SLIGHTLY interesting is the "hottopic" map, which DOESN'T EVEN HAVE YOUR NAME ON IT.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Lord Ned;15264605]If you look at a map such at Evocity, remove the props and stuff, it will still look better then your "WIP".[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Lord Ned;15320248]....What he's done so far is not layout... Layout is FAR FAR different. Not: *Uses old shitty picture*[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Lord Ned;15322073]Okay, If that's no longer working on the layout; Blocky Boring No Theme No Lighting Scheme No Color Scheme Boring Were telling you what needs fixing. Were not going to hold your hand and tell you exactly how because then it won't be your map. if you ask nicely though, you might get help.[/QUOTE] Yea? That didn't sound very nice to me Come on guys! Does that look like "criticism" to you? To me that looks like "Your map sucks GTFO of facepunch" Oh yea here: Blocky - Not entirely Boring - Opinion No Theme - Modern No Lighting Scheme - Warm No Color Scheme - Mall? Office? Boring - Wtf you already said that [b]Anyone about to post, read these. This is what I want![/b] [QUOTE=kp3;15329014]Great improvement since the old janooba city.[/QUOTE] THANK YOU! [QUOTE=nerdygamer;15259806]You should add a better sign to pic 4. Not just a picture. And a little more detail to pic 7. Like mabye trim on the bottom and top and a couple of pictures and some new wallpaper. Also I would take the edges of the frig and round them and make it white.[/QUOTE] THANK YOU! [QUOTE=metallics;15261104]It's true, your mall doesn't seem to have any architectural style or theme to it, perhaps that is due to the lack of real texturing,who knows. What is that bizzare shaped thing on the front? it seems to fulfill no purpose. The windows on the right of the shot of the front require thicker frames. The thin bars running through them would not be enough to support a window of that size. The shot of inside the mall just needs more.. stuff. Props mainly. Benches, plant pots, bins. That kind of thing. Also I note you have a brick pillar theme going on outside. Perhaps carry this over onto the inside to give it a more unified architectural feel? That mezzanine floor needs supporting anyway. What's the massive sheet of glass for at the front end? it appears to be inside the main window. <Long list of VERY HELPFULL Improvments[/QUOTE] Thank you most of all! [QUOTE=Jukka K;15265277]Add door and window frames and fix the missaligned glass texture. Also use a proper texture for that interior wall.[/QUOTE] Thanks! You didn't say anything good, but you didn't say anything bad either. That's what I want

I was just beginning to work on the mall portion of my map when I read this thread. Now I can't; I'll feel like I'm copying. Thanks. :P

You should not let this or any post discourage you but this map is: [list] [*]Boring [*]Bland [*]Blocky [/list] And has: [list] [*]Extremely sub par lighting, might as well be fullbright [*]Extremely sub par texturing [*]Windows/doors don't have frames [*]Paper thin walls [*]No cubemaps [*]Sub par name [/list] It being a "work in progress" is not an excuse, neither should you be posting if you only want and expect comments such as "GOOD MAP A+++++ WOULD LOOK AT AGAIN". Take a look at some real life buildings and then compare them to these and notice how these buildings look awful and nothing like anything that exists, the "bank" building is very awful and is a few thin brushes stacked on top of each-other with a floor texture on the walls and lighting that hurts my eyes. Even just un-fucking the lighting would make it possible to look at for more then a few seconds, no light is 100% white nor do they make the area around them solid white. The best option would be to select the related files and shift delete them then start making new buildings while looking at reference pictures and making sure they look at least somewhat realistic and pleasing to the eye. [QUOTE=Janooba;15322337] I am asking nicely now for you to give me the bad [b]with some good too[/b][/quote] You won't do better if everyone only gives praise, this is not elementary school and not everyone is a winner and or special snowflake. [QUOTE=Janooba;15322337]what looks good[/QUOTE] Absolutly nothing.

[b]The bank is gone...[/b] I got cubemaps (Those are older pics look at the first 4 for the newest) Doesn't look anything like fullbright Every door has a frame except for a few that are being put in now. Walls are at least 8 units or more thick. My worst work was the bank. So I removed it. Going to make a new better one in the mall. The bank was made around 3 years ago... yea. Malls outside lighting is temporary. I admit, this is no Downtown_V2 or Evocity. It's nothing like them. But you see people playing fullbright crap maps so that doesn't bother me.

You expect us to go back to the first page. Most people probably won't. You expect us to see the new from the old. Most people won't.

SOME of you people should read this: [url]http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-constructive-criticism.htm[/url] When people have WIPs, they're not looking for, "This sucks." They're looking for, "This sucks, maybe add some trimming to the door and more lighting. Check out this link, it might help you a little bit <insert help link here>" Instead of just flaming the fuck out of his map, why don't you give some ideas or, why not tell him what to do to make this map the best he can make it. I mean come on, he's not a Valve mapper. Also, look at this. [URL=http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sssssssg.jpg][IMG]http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1286/sssssssg.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Does it say beta or does it say "rp_JanoobaCity_2009 finished" [editline]12:38PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Janooba;15254711]This isn't a release, rather a look at my progress. The old versions, to be blunt, sucked, but this new one will look somewhat like ovis_city, but the main feature will be the mall. Yes this RP map will have a mall, the map itself isn't a mall. This includes custom textures and less... blockyness. Now the reason for this thread is to get some feedback, so I can change things early on. Here are some pictures, of the mall and the map... remember this is a work in progress! 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But if you think it sucks "This sucks" IS NOT what I want I want "This sucks because <reason here>" [b]Constructive criticism guys[/b] Dictionary Insert: [b]Main Entry:[/b] Constructive Criticism [b]Part of Speech:[/b] n [b]Definition:[/b] Criticism or [b]advice[/b] that is useful and intended to [b]help[/b] or improve something, often with an offer of [b]possible solutions[/b] Thanks Note: For some reason you guys just aren't getting it. I keep saying, I'm trying to get the layout done before I go through the trouble of props and detailing. So feel free to tell me what would look nice where, but don't tell me it needs more props and detail. I'm working on it >:|[/QUOTE] Hey dude, on picture 5, you might wanna make the walls a LITTLE bit thinner in the garden. They're kinda big, honestly.

Nice job, i like it :3 Cut down on the point_spotlight tho, i think they are just plain ugly, and use light_spot instead, much better and looks far more realistic. Also i hope you'll re-do some of the lighting, some of it really sux and looks fullbright.

[QUOTE=The Pro;15342317]Absolutly nothing.[/QUOTE] So you know. Even the puddles of rain on the road are shit. My custom spray paint is shit. Me taking the time to MAKE custom textures is shit. The new rainy/stormy atmosphere is shit. So your saying that this map --\/ is worse than mine [img]http://s3.garrysmod.org/img/dl/42391_1.jpg[/img] I say that because I can find at least two good thing with this map. He used triangular shapes well and he used the crate entities... Not much but still something. And you couldn't seem to find anything. Something that could be used for, I dunno a confidence boost. Either way for all you lazy guys out there here is my latest stuff. [URL=http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl22009060120261188.png][IMG]http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5769/hl22009060120261188.th.png[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl22009053020405024.png][IMG]http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8115/hl22009053020405024.th.png[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://img41.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl22009052907494482.png][IMG]http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5025/hl22009052907494482.th.png[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl22009053121201576.png][IMG]http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4648/hl22009053121201576.th.png[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://img189.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hl22009060120260061.png][IMG]http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3874/hl22009060120260061.th.png[/IMG][/URL]

[QUOTE=The Pro;15342317]You should not let this or any post discourage you but this map is: [b]Take a look at some real life buildings[/b] and then compare them to these and notice how these buildings look awful and nothing like anything that exists, the "bank" building is very awful and is a few thin brushes stacked on top of each-other with a floor texture on the walls and lighting that hurts my eyes. [/QUOTE] Good point on the bold stuff; I took 45 reference shots of Henry Ford Hospital, looks just like it now that I mapped it.

[QUOTE=Janooba;15254711]This isn't a release, rather a look at my progress. The old versions, to be blunt, sucked, but this new one will look somewhat like ovis_city, but the main feature will be the mall. Yes this RP map will have a mall, the map itself isn't a mall. This includes custom textures and less... blockyness. Now the reason for this thread is to get some feedback, so I can change things early on. Please give me feedback. But if you think it sucks "This sucks" IS NOT what I want I want "This sucks because <reason here>" [b]Constructive criticism guys[/b] Dictionary Insert: [b]Main Entry:[/b] Constructive Criticism [b]Part of Speech:[/b] n [b]Definition:[/b] Criticism or [b]advice[/b] that is useful and intended to [b]help[/b] or improve something, often with an offer of [b]possible solutions[/b] Thanks Note: For some reason you guys just aren't getting it. I keep saying, I'm trying to get the layout done before I go through the trouble of props and detailing. So feel free to tell me what would look nice where, but don't tell me it needs more props and detail. I'm working on it >:|[/QUOTE] this is awesome is it for gmod because your on ccs 10/10!!!!!

Gross Grates. Get a custom texture or remove them please. I like the blocky. I think it would be cool, however to add a few arches, and a interesting HDR skybox.

This map is going to be fused with another of my friends half finished map. It will be renamed too. Ill post on the OP and here

[QUOTE=Janooba;15354105]So you know. Even the puddles of rain on the road are shit. My custom spray paint is shit. Me taking the time to MAKE custom textures is shit. The new rainy/stormy atmosphere is shit. [/QUOTE] yep. [QUOTE=Janooba;15354105]I say that because I can find at least two good thing with this map.[/QUOTE]we are not idiots and it's clear what you are attempting to do. [QUOTE=THEWOLFERA;15347746]When people have WIPs, they're not looking for, "This sucks." They're looking for, "This sucks, maybe add some trimming to the door and more lighting. Check out this link, it might help you a little bit <insert help link here>" Instead of just flaming the fuck out of his map, why don't you give some ideas or, why not tell him what to do to make this map the best he can make it. I mean come on, he's not a Valve mapper[/QUOTE] the op's alt account spotted

[QUOTE=The Pro;15358154]yep. we are not idiots and it's clear what you are attempting to do. the op's alt account spotted[/QUOTE] The op's alt account spotted? Wtf...

[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;15356336]Gross Grates. Get a custom texture or remove them please. I like the blocky. I think it would be cool, however to add a few arches, and a interesting HDR skybox.[/QUOTE] Explain please. What grates [QUOTE=The Pro;15358154]yep. we are not idiots and it's clear what you are attempting to do. the op's alt account spotted[/QUOTE] Wolf, he thinks that I have two accounts and your me just trying to seem bigger and whatever Nope. I'm not that stupid. I would just say it myself. As I have been.

Hmm , so far what ive read in this thread is negative, negative, and guess what? more negative comments, im sorry but The Pro your sounding like a dick much dont say it looks boring, dull, blocky this is when the community is supposed to SUPPORT each other not complain about somebody else's mapping, And people wonder why there arent many mapper's, its because topics like these where the mapper gets shut down.