[Facepunch Knows Best] Judge my map/Help me Fix stuff - Developers

[QUOTE=Wolverine;19511814]I'm loling at Root Beer, I think he's in the wrong thread. I stopped playing Zm a while ago, however this thread made me go back and play it again. Ship was my favorite maps because of all the funny moments that occur(Lots of "Save the chair, save the chair!" or naming their masts as ships xD) I was sad to see that not many servers were on the map, but I'll head over to sammy's server to check it out. About the wood textures, you may be able to come across some custom ones that might fit well. I do think metal would look nice, with the command-area-place. I also love the idea of having the parts of the deck break, but I'm not so sure about the sides. I would have to see it breaking while it sinks to get an opinion about that.[/QUOTE] My Best advice would be to head over to one of the 3 Sammy Servers that play regular maps (# 1-3) Then Get a Rockthevote going and go to Zm_[ƒcƒc]_Ship_b6 Its VERY destructible. I Literally took the old map, made it look nicer and then chopped the entire boat up into small pieces that break easily from different traps/triggers. From my experiences people loved it quite alot more then the original, simply because the ship in the original rarely sank. While in mine, it nearly collapses entirely every other round. @Root Beer Yeah, i guess that's fine if this was made into a "post your map for judgment thread" Because there is plenty of room for ya! @Everyone else How do i fix an elevator that spawns sideways?

[QUOTE=mack1510;19516734]My Best advice would be to head over to one of the 3 Sammy Servers that play regular maps (# 1-3) Then Get a Rockthevote going and go to Zm_[ƒcƒc]_Ship_b6 Its VERY destructible. [B]I Literally took the old map, made it look nicer and then chopped the entire boat up into small pieces that break easily from different traps/triggers.[/B] From my experiences people loved it quite alot more then the original, simply because the ship in the original rarely sank. While in mine, it nearly collapses entirely every other round. @Root Beer Yeah, i guess that's fine if this was made into a "post your map for judgment thread" Because there is plenty of room for ya! @Everyone else How do i fix an elevator that spawns sideways?[/QUOTE] Please tell me you didn't decompile...

[QUOTE=Zally13;19517015]Please tell me you didn't decompile...[/QUOTE] Please tell me you can actually give feedback on a thread designated for such. Instead of providing useless comments that obviously designate your current feelings on individual unrelated subjects. Thanks...

Well, you said literally took the old map.

[QUOTE=Zally13;19517576]Well, you said literally took the old map.[/QUOTE] Yes sir, i decompiled a map that the original creator stopped working on over a year ago. I put my own effort and hours of work into improving the gameplay and replayability of the map. Then i released it under the original authors credit. If you had read the thread i pointed this out multiple times. I am now creating a from Scratch complete remake of the map itself, so that i can continue the original maps legacy and consider the work wholly my own. Thank you. Now tell me how to fix my elevator to make up for trolling my thread ):

[QUOTE=mack1510;19517737]Yes sir, i decompiled a map that the original creator stopped working on over a year ago. I put my own effort and hours of work into improving the gameplay and replayability of the map. Then i released it under the original authors credit. If you had read the thread i pointed this out multiple times. I am now creating a from Scratch complete remake of the map itself, so that i can continue the original maps legacy and consider the work wholly my own. Thank you. Now tell me how to fix my elevator to make up for trolling my thread ):[/QUOTE] What the hell? I wasn't trolling. And what if I don't tell you how to fix your elevator? You don't ask someone (or demand, in your case) them to do something for them after insulting them. Look, I was going to be helpful and tell you not to decompile, etc. However, you are just coming off as immature to me. That's all I have to say. And no, I won't help you fix your elevator.

[QUOTE=Zally13;19518063] And no, I won't help you fix your elevator.[/QUOTE] ):

Intresting Discovery today, I could have possibly used the carve tool efficiently. Simply put, i had to carve a circle out of another circle, which is a painstaking process that would take quite a bit of time. Out of curiosity i figured i would see what carve would do, hoping i could get a pretty screenshot of all the crazy lines. Well i got one... and the lines aren't crazy. In fact, i see not one wasted cut in the surface. [media]http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/8997/carvetoolcanbeusefullso.png[/media] I know you guys scream "carve is bad" But honestly, i think i could have found an efficient use of the tool. I also think that the common arguement "I could cut in less shapes then that" does not apply, i feel that i would definitely make a mistake or two in that kind of intricate cutting. (Where it looks like extra lines, those are simply the red Xs representing the middle of the line itself.) It is also my steering wheel for the ship. Which previously looked terrible! Although exactly what such a high brush count will do .... Also, i've encountered a few problems 1). I am unsure on how to set up a "trigger_once" to activate when a physics prop with one of three names passes it. I tried, and failed multiple times. I have (hopefully) properly set up filter multiples and filters. and a Filter Activator. Something just wont work though. 2). Light seems to pass through breakable objects... its a nuisance. Light Enviroment is doing it i think. [media]http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/139/zmfcfcshipv7alpha107000.jpg [url]http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/139/zmfcfcshipv7alpha107000.jpg[/url][/media] 3). My Water is doing this, [media]http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/139/zmfcfcshipv7alpha107000.jpg[/media] This is a transition to invisible walls that encase the ship. This is for technical reasons as water hates working around objects.

Off-grid vertices. The end.

[QUOTE=Zally13;19524339]Off-grid vertices. The end.[/QUOTE] Intresting, but i've noticed that means its technically impossible to make the exact same shape and size i just created without using the carve too. You would simply get a more rudimentary version of such. Or a bigger one.

Do you even NEED that many sides?

[QUOTE=Zally13;19524386]Do you even NEED that many sides?[/QUOTE] I Enjoy putting detail into my map. I think that for every hour you spend detailing and improving the look and feel of your map. Results in many times more hours of re playability and enjoyment (for multiplayer at least) This is of course only until the detailing itself begins to affect system performance too negatively.

That's still too much... If you were going for that, you should just use a custom prop or propper.

[QUOTE=Zally13;19524466]That's still too much... If you were going for that, you should just use a custom prop or propper.[/QUOTE] Which is what i was planning on doing in the first place... Anyway, anyone else possibly have solutions for any of the problems here?

[QUOTE=mack1510;19524221]Intresting Discovery today, I could have possibly used the carve tool efficiently. Simply put, i had to carve a circle out of another circle, which is a painstaking process that would take quite a bit of time. Out of curiosity i figured i would see what carve would do, hoping i could get a pretty screenshot of all the crazy lines. Well i got one... and the lines aren't crazy. In fact, i see not one wasted cut in the surface. [media]http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/8997/carvetoolcanbeusefullso.png[/media] I know you guys scream "carve is bad" But honestly, i think i could have found an efficient use of the tool. I also think that the common arguement "I could cut in less shapes then that" does not apply, i feel that i would definitely make a mistake or two in that kind of intricate cutting. (Where it looks like extra lines, those are simply the red Xs representing the middle of the line itself.) It is also my steering wheel for the ship. Which previously looked terrible! Although exactly what such a high brush count will do .... Also, i've encountered a few problems 1). I am unsure on how to set up a "trigger_once" to activate when a physics prop with one of three names passes it. I tried, and failed multiple times. I have (hopefully) properly set up filter multiples and filters. and a Filter Activator. Something just wont work though. 2). Light seems to pass through breakable objects... its a nuisance. Light Enviroment is doing it i think. [media]http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/139/zmfcfcshipv7alpha107000.jpg [url]http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/139/zmfcfcshipv7alpha107000.jpg[/url][/media] 3). My Water is doing this, [media]http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/139/zmfcfcshipv7alpha107000.jpg[/media] This is a transition to invisible walls that encase the ship. This is for technical reasons as water hates working around objects.[/QUOTE] [b]Arch tool.[/b] Also, light shines through func_brekables.

With the light shining through the breakable parts, might you be able to use the block light texture? I don't know how it works, I've never used it before.

[QUOTE=Wolverine;19527569]With the light shining through the breakable parts, might you be able to use the block light texture? I don't know how it works, I've never used it before.[/QUOTE] Well, it works by... Blocking light... You just apply it to a normal brush, as far as I know.

Awesome. zm_ship v2 :v:

[QUOTE=healthpoint;19535115]Awesome. zm_ship v2 :v:[/QUOTE] Its actually V7 But thanks (also how does nobody know how to properly spawn an elevator? o-0)

[QUOTE=mack1510;19545805]Its actually V7 But thanks (also how does nobody know how to properly spawn an elevator? o-0)[/QUOTE] Elevator is not a good idea in Zombie Master.

[QUOTE=Zally13;19546202]Elevator is not a good idea in Zombie Master.[/QUOTE] Its actually not required to get from location A-B, its a zombie master trap. Meaning he can either allow or deny easy access to some areas. ): and it spawns sideways. *edit* OH HEY! not anymore! seems like i broke something and fixed it o-0...