Mapping Question Megathread v3

[Divaya]

[QUOTE=NielsGade;35368480][url]https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Filter[/url][/QUOTE]

I already looked at filters, but filters don't do what I need them to do. I want to have only damage from the player affect a button. Using a filter like [url=https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Filter_damage_type]Filter_damage_type[/url] only filters different damage kinds like bullets or fire or w/e, not the source of the damage.

[editline]Edit:[/editline]

Actually could one use a filter_activator_class for it? I'm not sure if '!player' is always a valid class.

[oytal]

Havent mapped on a while, so i dont remember...what was the hotkeys for increasing and decreasing the gridsize again?

[IronPhoenix]

[QUOTE=oytal;35386902]Havent mapped on a while, so i dont remember...what was the hotkeys for increasing and decreasing the gridsize again?[/QUOTE]

[]

[Chrille]

[QUOTE=Firegod522;35384826]Just propper it.[/QUOTE]

Worked perfectly. Thank you.

[mcilona]

[QUOTE=Half-Life;35381296]Does anyone know what the entity limit for AI nodes in Hammer? I put alot on my map and when I load the game up not all of the displaced nodes are appearing. Only most are but some of them are missing which causes link problems between the nodes. Is there a certain limit to how many nodes I can put on a map? Someone please answer.[/QUOTE]

I don't know if the value it differs for each engine, but in a compile log for a garrysmod map i made it said max nodes was 65,536. I had only several thousand nodes in place. my only suggestion would be to check how close the nodes are to the ground. Make sure to have the nodes a couple units off the ground and maybe a little more off the ground over displacements to ensure that they are compiled.

[Half-Life]

[QUOTE=mcilona;35388152]I don't know if the value it differs for each engine, but in a compile log for a garrysmod map i made it said max nodes was 65,536. I had only several thousand nodes in place. my only suggestion would be to check how close the nodes are to the ground. Make sure to have the nodes a couple units off the ground and maybe a little more off the ground over displacements to ensure that they are compiled.[/QUOTE]

over 65,000 nodes? are you sure that's even possible given the limitations of the engine? I have only 200 nodes on my map and some of them are just completely missing. do you know how to set them off the ground?

[Matt2468rv]

[QUOTE=Miigga;35381825]I guess you could make the trigger_multiple larger for the rotating doors. Or just only use sliding doors. :v:

Or use func_rotatings for the rotating doors. You can use outputs to tell them which way to rotate. Use that along with two trigger_multiples.
If you want the player to also be able to use it, I guess you can have large flat nodrawed func_buttons on both sides of the door (parented to the door) that also open the door. This is getting hacky as fuck but it might work.[/QUOTE]

You know, that might just work. Feels like an I/O rape for just a door, but I'll give it a shot :v:

[QUOTE=mcilona;35388152]I had only several thousand nodes in place.[/QUOTE]

Wait, ONLY several thousand nodes?... Holy shit, how big/complicated is your map?

[TCB]

They're probably placing a node every 6 units.

[Half-Life]

Does anyone know how to move/rotate/raise an entity? I'm sorta a noob mapper and I got a few nodes stuck inside a building and I want to manually move it out.

[TCB]

Click it with the select tool and then drag it out.

[ARitz Cracker]

hey guys, I am working on a map, and I'm using EP2 for hammer.
I've made a door using the ep2_outland_11.blastdoors sounds and they work in EP2, but not in GMod, I would use the raw wavs, but then the sounds would decrease in audible range. So I'm asking if I could fix this w/o using an ambient_generic

[TCB]

Is the door open sound set to the wavs?

[editline]2nd April 2012[/editline]

Either you worded that awfully or I'm just tired.

[mcilona]

[QUOTE=Matt2468rv;35389532]You know, that might just work. Feels like an I/O rape for just a door, but I'll give it a shot :v:

Wait, ONLY several thousand nodes?... Holy shit, how big/complicated is your map?[/QUOTE]

It's about 1/4 of hammer's grid size. as for complexity, there's about 10 different multi-leveled buildings and a kind of a train station which i've noded inside and out. there's nodes in pretty much every area of the map though.

[ARitz Cracker]

[QUOTE=TCB;35392140]Is the door open sound set to the wavs?

[editline]2nd April 2012[/editline]

Either you worded that awfully or I'm just tired.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LegoGuy;35392006]hey guys, I am working on a map, and I'm using EP2 for hammer.
[B]I've made a door using the [I]ep2_outland_11.blastdoors[/I][/B] sounds and they work in EP2, but not in GMod, I would use the raw wavs, but then the sounds would decrease in audible range. So I'm asking if I could fix this w/o using an ambient_generic[/QUOTE]

that's the "in game sound code" or whatever. Anyway, I didn't set it to the raw wavs

[mcilona]

[QUOTE=TCB;35390433]They're probably placing a node every 6 units.[/QUOTE]

all of the navigation nodes in outdoor areas range from 200 to 300 units apart.

[Matt2468rv]

[QUOTE=mcilona;35392241]all of the navigation nodes in outdoor areas range from 200 to 300 units apart.[/QUOTE]

Then how did you go about placing thousands of AI nodes?... Placing one every 6 units would be ridiculous, even in indoor areas.

[mcilona]

[QUOTE=Matt2468rv;35392504]Then how did you go about placing thousands of AI nodes?... Placing one every 6 units would be ridiculous, even in indoor areas.[/QUOTE] Majority of the nodes probably came from the outdoor areas. It's not a very complex map. It wasn't all that time consuming either. A lot of it was shift+drag and drop, I guess because of the simplicity of my map.

[Half-Life]

-snip, double post-

[comet1337]

texture question:
i made a few custom textures for testing purposes.
problem is, in the material browser they seem to work fine.
but after applying it on a brush it goes all "one monotone color with a few stripes on the end"
it does the same thing ingame.

theyr vmts look something like this

LightMappedGeneric
{
$basetexture texture/path/and/name/here
$surfaceprop concrete
}

and the sizes are 128*64 and 64*64

[supatails]

For some reason upon entering this gulch in my map in-game will cause the entire game to crash. I'm not sure what the problem could be, i haven't found any leaks, and the displacements look fine.

** Executing...
** Command: "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk\bin\source2009\bin\vbsp.exe"
** Parameters: -game "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\half-life 2 episode two\ep2" "C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous.vmf"

Valve Software - vbsp.exe (Sep 15 2011)
2 threads
materialPath: c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\half-life 2 episode two\ep2\materials
Loading C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous.vmf
Could not locate 'GameData' key in c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\half-life 2 episode two\ep2\gameinfo.txt
Patching WVT material: maps/gm_nitrous/nature/blendrocksand004a_wvt_patch
fixing up env_cubemap materials on brush sides...
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (1)
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
Processing areas...done (0)
Building Faces...done (0)
FixTjuncs...
PruneNodes...
WriteBSP...
done (0)
writing C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous.prt...Building visibility clusters...
done (0)
Creating default LDR cubemaps for env_cubemap using skybox materials:
   skybox/sky_day01_01*.vmt
 ! Run buildcubemaps in the engine to get the correct cube maps.
Creating default HDR cubemaps for env_cubemap using skybox materials:
   skybox/sky_day01_01*.vmt
 ! Run buildcubemaps in the engine to get the correct cube maps.
Finding displacement neighbors...
Finding lightmap sample positions...
Displacement Alpha : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Building Physics collision data...
done (1) (6758 bytes)
Placing detail props : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Compacting texture/material tables...
Reduced 47 texinfos to 28
Reduced 18 texdatas to 14 (556 bytes to 376)
Writing C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous.bsp
4 seconds elapsed

** Executing...
** Command: "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk\bin\source2009\bin\vvis.exe"
** Parameters: -game "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\half-life 2 episode two\ep2" -fast "C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous"

Valve Software - vvis.exe (Sep 15 2011)
fastvis = true
2 threads
reading c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous.bsp
reading c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous.prt
  71 portalclusters
 260 numportals
BasePortalVis:       0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
Optimized: 0 visible clusters (0.00%)
Total clusters visible: 5025
Average clusters visible: 70
Building PAS...
Average clusters audible: 71
visdatasize:1850  compressed from 2272
writing c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous.bsp
0 seconds elapsed

** Executing...
** Command: "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk\bin\source2009\bin\vrad.exe"
** Parameters:  -game "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\half-life 2 episode two\ep2" -noextra "C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous"

Valve Software - vrad.exe SSE (Sep 15 2011)

      Valve Radiosity Simulator     
2 threads
[Reading texlights from 'lights.rad']
[48 texlights parsed from 'lights.rad']

Loading c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous.bsp
Setting up ray-trace acceleration structure... Done (3.79 seconds)
148 faces
481597 square feet [69350040.00 square inches]
27 Displacements
165701 Square Feet [23861048.00 Square Inches]
148 patches before subdivision
7484 patches after subdivision
sun extent from map=0.000000
2 direct lights
BuildFacelights:     0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (11)
BuildVisLeafs:       0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (1)
transfers 71852, max 143
transfer lists:   0.5 megs
GatherLight:         0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (1)
	Bounce #1 added RGB(9741, 3910, 1117)
GatherLight:         0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
	Bounce #2 added RGB(501, 174, 39)
GatherLight:         0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
	Bounce #3 added RGB(30, 9, 2)
GatherLight:         0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (4)
	Bounce #4 added RGB(2, 1, 0)
GatherLight:         0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (1)
	Bounce #5 added RGB(0, 0, 0)
Build Patch/Sample Hash Table(s).....Done<0.0210 sec>
FinalLightFace:      0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (7)
FinalLightFace Done
0 of 0 (0% of) surface lights went in leaf ambient cubes.
ThreadComputeLeafAmbient: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (3)
Writing leaf ambient...done
Ready to Finish

Object names       Objects/Maxobjs  Memory / Maxmem  Fullness 
------------       ---------------  ---------------  -------- 
models                   1/1024           48/49152    ( 0.1%) 
brushes                 17/8192          204/98304    ( 0.2%) 
brushsides             156/65536        1248/524288   ( 0.2%) 
planes                 272/65536        5440/1310720  ( 0.4%) 
vertexes               215/65536        2580/786432   ( 0.3%) 
nodes                  138/65536        4416/2097152  ( 0.2%) 
texinfos                28/12288        2016/884736   ( 0.2%) 
texdata                 14/2048          448/65536    ( 0.7%) 
dispinfos               27/0            4752/0        ( 0.0%) 
disp_verts            7803/0          156060/0        ( 0.0%) 
disp_tris            13824/0           27648/0        ( 0.0%) 
disp_lmsamples      447362/0          447362/0        ( 0.0%) 
faces                  148/65536        8288/3670016  ( 0.2%) 
hdr faces                0/65536           0/3670016  ( 0.0%) 
origfaces               80/65536        4480/3670016  ( 0.1%) 
leaves                 140/65536        4480/2097152  ( 0.2%) 
leaffaces              149/65536         298/131072   ( 0.2%) 
leafbrushes             87/65536         174/131072   ( 0.1%) 
areas                    2/256            16/2048     ( 0.8%) 
surfedges              952/512000       3808/2048000  ( 0.2%) 
edges                  547/256000       2188/1024000  ( 0.2%) 
LDR worldlights          2/8192          176/720896   ( 0.0%) 
HDR worldlights          0/8192            0/720896   ( 0.0%) 
leafwaterdata            1/32768          12/393216   ( 0.0%) 
waterstrips             13/32768         130/327680   ( 0.0%) 
waterverts               0/65536           0/786432   ( 0.0%) 
waterindices           159/65536         318/131072   ( 0.2%) 
cubemapsamples           1/1024           16/16384    ( 0.1%) 
overlays                 0/512             0/180224   ( 0.0%) 
LDR lightdata         [variable]     1603772/0        ( 0.0%) 
HDR lightdata         [variable]           0/0        ( 0.0%) 
visdata               [variable]        1850/16777216 ( 0.0%) 
entdata               [variable]        4438/393216   ( 1.1%) 
LDR ambient table      140/65536         560/262144   ( 0.2%) 
HDR ambient table      140/65536         560/262144   ( 0.2%) 
LDR leaf ambient       873/65536       24444/1835008  ( 1.3%) 
HDR leaf ambient       140/65536        3920/1835008  ( 0.2%) 
occluders                0/0               0/0        ( 0.0%) 
occluder polygons        0/0               0/0        ( 0.0%) 
occluder vert ind        0/0               0/0        ( 0.0%) 
detail props          [variable]           1/12       ( 8.3%) 
static props          [variable]           1/3514     ( 0.0%) 
pakfile               [variable]      212950/0        ( 0.0%) 
physics               [variable]        6758/4194304  ( 0.2%) 
physics terrain       [variable]       17086/1048576  ( 1.6%) 

Level flags = 0

Total triangle count: 336
Writing c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous.bsp
32 seconds elapsed

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous.bsp" "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\half-life 2 episode two\ep2\maps\gm_nitrous.bsp"


** Executing...
** Command: c:\program files\steam\steam.exe
** Parameters: -applaunch 420 -game "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\half-life 2 episode two\ep2"  +map "gm_nitrous"

[Legend286]

[QUOTE=supatails;35400425]For some reason upon entering this gulch in my map in-game will cause the entire game to crash. I'm not sure what the problem could be, i haven't found any leaks, and the displacements look fine.

** Executing...
** Command: "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk\bin\source2009\bin\vbsp.exe"
** Parameters: -game "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\half-life 2 episode two\ep2" "C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous.vmf"

Valve Software - vbsp.exe (Sep 15 2011)
2 threads
materialPath: c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\half-life 2 episode two\ep2\materials
Loading C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous.vmf
Could not locate 'GameData' key in c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\half-life 2 episode two\ep2\gameinfo.txt
Patching WVT material: maps/gm_nitrous/nature/blendrocksand004a_wvt_patch
fixing up env_cubemap materials on brush sides...
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (1)
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
Processing areas...done (0)
Building Faces...done (0)
FixTjuncs...
PruneNodes...
WriteBSP...
done (0)
writing C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous.prt...Building visibility clusters...
done (0)
Creating default LDR cubemaps for env_cubemap using skybox materials:
   skybox/sky_day01_01*.vmt
 ! Run buildcubemaps in the engine to get the correct cube maps.
Creating default HDR cubemaps for env_cubemap using skybox materials:
   skybox/sky_day01_01*.vmt
 ! Run buildcubemaps in the engine to get the correct cube maps.
Finding displacement neighbors...
Finding lightmap sample positions...
Displacement Alpha : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Building Physics collision data...
done (1) (6758 bytes)
Placing detail props : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Compacting texture/material tables...
Reduced 47 texinfos to 28
Reduced 18 texdatas to 14 (556 bytes to 376)
Writing C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous.bsp
4 seconds elapsed

** Executing...
** Command: "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk\bin\source2009\bin\vvis.exe"
** Parameters: -game "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\half-life 2 episode two\ep2" -fast "C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous"

Valve Software - vvis.exe (Sep 15 2011)
fastvis = true
2 threads
reading c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous.bsp
reading c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous.prt
  71 portalclusters
 260 numportals
BasePortalVis:       0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
Optimized: 0 visible clusters (0.00%)
Total clusters visible: 5025
Average clusters visible: 70
Building PAS...
Average clusters audible: 71
visdatasize:1850  compressed from 2272
writing c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous.bsp
0 seconds elapsed

** Executing...
** Command: "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk\bin\source2009\bin\vrad.exe"
** Parameters:  -game "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\half-life 2 episode two\ep2" -noextra "C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous"

Valve Software - vrad.exe SSE (Sep 15 2011)

      Valve Radiosity Simulator     
2 threads
[Reading texlights from 'lights.rad']
[48 texlights parsed from 'lights.rad']

Loading c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous.bsp
Setting up ray-trace acceleration structure... Done (3.79 seconds)
148 faces
481597 square feet [69350040.00 square inches]
27 Displacements
165701 Square Feet [23861048.00 Square Inches]
148 patches before subdivision
7484 patches after subdivision
sun extent from map=0.000000
2 direct lights
BuildFacelights:     0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (11)
BuildVisLeafs:       0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (1)
transfers 71852, max 143
transfer lists:   0.5 megs
GatherLight:         0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (1)
	Bounce #1 added RGB(9741, 3910, 1117)
GatherLight:         0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
	Bounce #2 added RGB(501, 174, 39)
GatherLight:         0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
	Bounce #3 added RGB(30, 9, 2)
GatherLight:         0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (4)
	Bounce #4 added RGB(2, 1, 0)
GatherLight:         0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (1)
	Bounce #5 added RGB(0, 0, 0)
Build Patch/Sample Hash Table(s).....Done<0.0210 sec>
FinalLightFace:      0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (7)
FinalLightFace Done
0 of 0 (0% of) surface lights went in leaf ambient cubes.
ThreadComputeLeafAmbient: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (3)
Writing leaf ambient...done
Ready to Finish

Object names       Objects/Maxobjs  Memory / Maxmem  Fullness 
------------       ---------------  ---------------  -------- 
models                   1/1024           48/49152    ( 0.1%) 
brushes                 17/8192          204/98304    ( 0.2%) 
brushsides             156/65536        1248/524288   ( 0.2%) 
planes                 272/65536        5440/1310720  ( 0.4%) 
vertexes               215/65536        2580/786432   ( 0.3%) 
nodes                  138/65536        4416/2097152  ( 0.2%) 
texinfos                28/12288        2016/884736   ( 0.2%) 
texdata                 14/2048          448/65536    ( 0.7%) 
dispinfos               27/0            4752/0        ( 0.0%) 
disp_verts            7803/0          156060/0        ( 0.0%) 
disp_tris            13824/0           27648/0        ( 0.0%) 
disp_lmsamples      447362/0          447362/0        ( 0.0%) 
faces                  148/65536        8288/3670016  ( 0.2%) 
hdr faces                0/65536           0/3670016  ( 0.0%) 
origfaces               80/65536        4480/3670016  ( 0.1%) 
leaves                 140/65536        4480/2097152  ( 0.2%) 
leaffaces              149/65536         298/131072   ( 0.2%) 
leafbrushes             87/65536         174/131072   ( 0.1%) 
areas                    2/256            16/2048     ( 0.8%) 
surfedges              952/512000       3808/2048000  ( 0.2%) 
edges                  547/256000       2188/1024000  ( 0.2%) 
LDR worldlights          2/8192          176/720896   ( 0.0%) 
HDR worldlights          0/8192            0/720896   ( 0.0%) 
leafwaterdata            1/32768          12/393216   ( 0.0%) 
waterstrips             13/32768         130/327680   ( 0.0%) 
waterverts               0/65536           0/786432   ( 0.0%) 
waterindices           159/65536         318/131072   ( 0.2%) 
cubemapsamples           1/1024           16/16384    ( 0.1%) 
overlays                 0/512             0/180224   ( 0.0%) 
LDR lightdata         [variable]     1603772/0        ( 0.0%) 
HDR lightdata         [variable]           0/0        ( 0.0%) 
visdata               [variable]        1850/16777216 ( 0.0%) 
entdata               [variable]        4438/393216   ( 1.1%) 
LDR ambient table      140/65536         560/262144   ( 0.2%) 
HDR ambient table      140/65536         560/262144   ( 0.2%) 
LDR leaf ambient       873/65536       24444/1835008  ( 1.3%) 
HDR leaf ambient       140/65536        3920/1835008  ( 0.2%) 
occluders                0/0               0/0        ( 0.0%) 
occluder polygons        0/0               0/0        ( 0.0%) 
occluder vert ind        0/0               0/0        ( 0.0%) 
detail props          [variable]           1/12       ( 8.3%) 
static props          [variable]           1/3514     ( 0.0%) 
pakfile               [variable]      212950/0        ( 0.0%) 
physics               [variable]        6758/4194304  ( 0.2%) 
physics terrain       [variable]       17086/1048576  ( 1.6%) 

Level flags = 0

Total triangle count: 336
Writing c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous.bsp
32 seconds elapsed

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\sourcesdk_content\hl2\mapsrc\gm_nitrous.bsp" "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\half-life 2 episode two\ep2\maps\gm_nitrous.bsp"


** Executing...
** Command: c:\program files\steam\steam.exe
** Parameters: -applaunch 420 -game "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\supa_tails_chao\half-life 2 episode two\ep2"  +map "gm_nitrous"

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If you have displacements make sure that they're at least 1024^2 for power 4, 512^2 for power 3, and 256^2 for power 2. Any less and the game will likely crash due to the vertex density being too high for the physics engine to handle.

[Firegod522]

Try turning vis to normal. When its not on normal it skips and just assumes everything can see itself.

[MayorBee]

I made a prop_door_rotating and put it in place and it works fine except for the fact that when i quickly hit use on it twice it rotates the opposite way through the wall. Does anyone know how to fix this?

[Half-Life]

[QUOTE=mcilona;35393124]Majority of the nodes probably came from the outdoor areas. It's not a very complex map. It wasn't all that time consuming either. A lot of it was shift+drag and drop, I guess because of the simplicity of my map.[/QUOTE]

But there's no possible way you can place over 65,000 nodes on a single map - no matter how large it is. The entity limit is I believe in the 4,000's or less than that. I have only less than 2,000 entities on my map (including nodes) and not all the nodes are appearing. But when I delete a few nodes I noticed a few more spring up somewhere else. There seems to be a limit for me.

May I ask how you were able to place thousands of nodes w/o an entity limit? If anyone can answer that for the matter. Because I would really like to do the same for my map since I ran out of nodes to displace.

[mcilona]

[QUOTE=Half-Life;35405416]But there's no possible way you can place over 65,000 nodes on a single map - no matter how large it is. The entity limit is I believe in the 4,000's or less than that. I have only less than 2,000 entities on my map (including nodes) and not all the nodes are appearing. But when I delete a few nodes I noticed a few more spring up somewhere else. There seems to be a limit for me.

May I ask how you were able to place thousands of nodes w/o an entity limit? If anyone can answer that for the matter. Because I would really like to do the same for my map since I ran out of nodes to displace.[/QUOTE]

If you only have 200 nodes, i doubt it's the quantity that's making them not work properly. I'm not one for technical things when it comes to the source engine, but like i said, i have over 3000 nodes on my map and plenty of other entities and the map works fine.

[supatails]

[QUOTE=Legend286;35401200]If you have displacements make sure that they're at least 1024^2 for power 4, 512^2 for power 3, and 256^2 for power 2. Any less and the game will likely crash due to the vertex density being too high for the physics engine to handle.[/QUOTE]

That was an extremely useful post! Turns out that that was the problem after all but that's some good information there!

[mcilona]

would anyone know how to texture a 3-way intersection like this a little more effectively?

[IMG]http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt41/mastercilona/facepunchtexturinghelp.png[/IMG]

to the right is how i have it chopped up.

[supatails]

I'd add crosswalks to the roads:
[img]http://www.clker.com/cliparts/u/z/d/J/3/w/three-way-intersection-md.png[/img]
[img]http://www.imaginationpaper.com/images/tile-3-way-intersection-ver.gif[/img]
So in the three main cuts, I'd use a road texture without the yellow lines, then I'd split up the areas just before the sidewalks go diagonal into 64 unit wide rectangles for a crosswalk texture.
[img]http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9462/ihelpedsomeoneintersect.png[/img]

[mcilona]

[QUOTE=supatails;35408054]I'd add crosswalks to the roads:
[img]http://www.clker.com/cliparts/u/z/d/J/3/w/three-way-intersection-md.png[/img]
[img]http://www.imaginationpaper.com/images/tile-3-way-intersection-ver.gif[/img]
So in the three main cuts, I'd use a road texture without the yellow lines, then I'd split up the areas just before the sidewalks go diagonal into 64 unit wide rectangles for a crosswalk texture.
[img]http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9462/ihelpedsomeoneintersect.png[/img][/QUOTE]

hey thanks. I'll be sure to add crosswalks and back up the yellow lined road textures, sounds like it would look better. I'm still curious to know if anybody may know a better method to making all the textures in the intersection look a little more seamless though.

[Half-Life]

[QUOTE=mcilona;35407055]If you only have 200 nodes, i doubt it's the quantity that's making them not work properly. I'm not one for technical things when it comes to the source engine, but like i said, i have over 3000 nodes on my map and plenty of other entities and the map works fine.[/QUOTE]

May I download the VMF to test the nodes out? Or to reverse engineer it via Hammer and see if I can find a way to see what's wrong with my map in comparison to yours? I'm genuinely curious as how you were able to put more than 3,000 nodes on the map, let alone with other entities as well. Because my map just won't displace no more than 200 entities and yet I only have about 2033 maximum number of all entities on the map field. It's ridiculous because my node-graph is incomplete and won't extend to a few buildings.