Mapping Question Megathread v3

[Chrille]

Copy from my post at Interlopers (any way to make the compile log scrollable or something?):

Alright, I don't know if this is a simple question, but it seems like the right thread. I'm literally at the end of my wits because of this problem. The issue is that when I have compiled the map and it's loading in the game, the game just crashes. Other maps in the game work just fine. I have fixed every leak (there were two), compiled on both full and fast settings, with HDR on and off, I have deleted all the map files except for the .vmf, switching folders, and using Hammer's compile tools. Any help would be appreciated.

-------------- Start Compile BSP ----------------
VBSP Started, Please Wait!

VBSP:  c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\counter-chrille\sourcesdk\bin\orangebox\bin\vbsp.exe  -game  "c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\counter-chrille\counter-strike source\cstrike" "C:\Users\Sharkgaming\Dropbox\MAPPING\mapsrc\ttt_peak"

Valve Software - vbsp.exe (Oct 25 2011)
4 threads
materialPath: c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\counter-chrille\counter-strike source\cstrike\materials
Loading C:\Users\Sharkgaming\Dropbox\MAPPING\mapsrc\ttt_peak.vmf
Could not locate 'GameData' key in c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\counter-chrille\counter-strike source\cstrike\gameinfo.txt
Patching WVT material: maps/ttt_peak/ground/blendsnow_conc_wvt_patch
fixing up env_cubemap materials on brush sides...
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
Processing areas...done (0)
Building Faces...done (0)
Chop Details...done (0)
Find Visible Detail Sides...
Merged 284 detail faces...done (0)
Merging details...done (0)
FixTjuncs...
PruneNodes...
WriteBSP...
done (0)
writing C:\Users\Sharkgaming\Dropbox\MAPPING\mapsrc\ttt_peak.prt...Building visibility clusters...
done (0)
Creating default LDR cubemaps for env_cubemap using skybox materials:
   skybox/office*.vmt
! Run buildcubemaps in the engine to get the correct cube maps.
Creating default HDR cubemaps for env_cubemap using skybox materials:
   skybox/office*.vmt
! Run buildcubemaps in the engine to get the correct cube maps.
Finding displacement neighbors...
Finding lightmap sample positions...
Displacement Alpha : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
ConVarRef mat_reduceparticles doesn't point to an existing ConVar
Building Physics collision data...
WARNING: Map using power 4 displacements, terrain physics cannot be compressed, map will need additional memory and CPU.
done (0) (2301522 bytes)
Placing detail props : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Compacting texture/material tables...
Reduced 2959 texinfos to 2091
Reduced 98 texdatas to 92 (2239 bytes to 2039)
Writing C:\Users\Sharkgaming\Dropbox\MAPPING\mapsrc\ttt_peak.bsp
2 seconds elapsed

Compile Complete for this module.
VBSP Completed: 15. april 2012,  18:19:48
VBSP: WARNING: Map using power 4 displacements, terrain physics cannot be compressed, map will need additional memory and CPU.
VBSP:  Compile time: 2 seconds elapsed

-------------- Start Compile VVIS ----------------
VVIS Started, Please Wait!

VVIS:  c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\counter-chrille\sourcesdk\bin\orangebox\bin\vvis.exe -fast  -game  "c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\counter-chrille\counter-strike source\cstrike" "C:\Users\Sharkgaming\Dropbox\MAPPING\mapsrc\ttt_peak"

Valve Software - vvis.exe (Oct 25 2011)
fastvis = true
4 threads
reading c:\users\sharkgaming\dropbox\mapping\mapsrc\ttt_peak.bsp
reading c:\users\sharkgaming\dropbox\mapping\mapsrc\ttt_peak.prt
1580 portalclusters
4983 numportals
BasePortalVis:       0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (1)
Optimized: 225784 visible clusters (0.00%)
Total clusters visible: 1441438
Average clusters visible: 912
Building PAS...
Average clusters audible: 1573
visdatasize:596652  compressed from 632000
writing c:\users\sharkgaming\dropbox\mapping\mapsrc\ttt_peak.bsp
1 second elapsed

Compile Complete for this module.
VVIS Completed: 15. april 2012,  18:19:50
VVIS: Compile time: 1 second elapsed

-------------- Start Compile VRAD ----------------
VRAD Started, Please Wait!

VRAD:  c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\counter-chrille\sourcesdk\bin\orangebox\bin\vrad.exe -both  -game  "c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\counter-chrille\counter-strike source\cstrike" "C:\Users\Sharkgaming\Dropbox\MAPPING\mapsrc\ttt_peak"

Valve Software - vrad.exe SSE (Oct 25 2011)

      Valve Radiosity Simulator     
4 threads
[Reading texlights from 'lights.rad']
[49 texlights parsed from 'lights.rad']

Loading c:\users\sharkgaming\dropbox\mapping\mapsrc\ttt_peak.bsp
Setting up ray-trace acceleration structure... Done (1.28 seconds)
6627 faces
2208981 square feet [318093376.00 square inches]
51 Displacements
34410 Square Feet [4955176.50 Square Inches]
6627 patches before subdivision
272897 patches after subdivision
sun extent from map=0.121869
100 direct lights
BuildFacelights:     0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (38)
BuildVisLeafs:       0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (29)
transfers 34126182, max 985
transfer lists: 260.4 megs
GatherLight:         0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (1)
   Bounce #1 added RGB(721862, 767886, 661584)
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Build Patch/Sample Hash Table(s).....Done<0.0656 sec>
FinalLightFace:      0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (6)
FinalLightFace Done
32 of 32 (100% of) surface lights went in leaf ambient cubes.
ThreadComputeLeafAmbient: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (5)
Writing leaf ambient...done
Ready to Finish

Object names       Objects/Maxobjs  Memory / Maxmem  Fullness 
------------       ---------------  ---------------  -------- 
models                  31/1024         1488/49152    ( 3.0%) 
brushes               1468/8192        17616/98304    (17.9%) 
brushsides           10704/65536       85632/524288   (16.3%) 
planes                3788/65536       75760/1310720  ( 5.8%) 
vertexes             12255/65536      147060/786432   (18.7%) 
nodes                 3147/65536      100704/2097152  ( 4.8%) 
texinfos              2091/12288      150552/884736   (17.0%) 
texdata                 92/2048         2944/65536    ( 4.5%) 
dispinfos               51/0            8976/0        ( 0.0%) 
disp_verts            9123/0          182460/0        ( 0.0%) 
disp_tris            15744/0           31488/0        ( 0.0%) 
disp_lmsamples      611621/0          611621/0        ( 0.0%) 
faces                 6627/65536      371112/3670016  (10.1%) 
hdr faces                0/65536           0/3670016  ( 0.0%) 
origfaces             3223/65536      180488/3670016  ( 4.9%) 
leaves                3179/65536      101728/2097152  ( 4.9%) 
leaffaces             8636/65536       17272/131072   (13.2%) 
leafbrushes           2993/65536        5986/131072   ( 4.6%) 
areas                    2/256            16/2048     ( 0.8%) 
surfedges            45601/512000     182404/2048000  ( 8.9%) 
edges                28143/256000     112572/1024000  (11.0%) 
LDR worldlights        100/8192         8800/720896   ( 1.2%) 
HDR worldlights          0/8192            0/720896   ( 0.0%) 
leafwaterdata            0/32768           0/393216   ( 0.0%) 
waterstrips           1175/32768       11750/327680   ( 3.6%) 
waterverts               0/65536           0/786432   ( 0.0%) 
waterindices         21957/65536       43914/131072   (33.5%) 
cubemapsamples           0/1024            0/16384    ( 0.0%) 
overlays                38/512         13376/180224   ( 7.4%) 
LDR lightdata         [variable]     9660036/0        ( 0.0%) 
HDR lightdata         [variable]           0/0        ( 0.0%) 
visdata               [variable]      596652/16777216 ( 3.6%) 
entdata               [variable]       63163/393216   (16.1%) 
LDR ambient table     3179/65536       12716/262144   ( 4.9%) 
HDR ambient table     3179/65536       12716/262144   ( 4.9%) 
LDR leaf ambient     12973/65536      363244/1835008  (19.8%) 
HDR leaf ambient      3179/65536       89012/1835008  ( 4.9%) 
occluders                0/0               0/0        ( 0.0%) 
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occluder vert ind        0/0               0/0        ( 0.0%) 
detail props          [variable]           1/12       ( 8.3%) 
static props          [variable]           1/13932    ( 0.0%) 
pakfile               [variable]      174294/0        ( 0.0%) 
physics               [variable]     2301522/4194304  (54.9%) 
physics terrain       [variable]           0/1048576  ( 0.0%) 

Level flags = 0

Total triangle count: 19468
Writing c:\users\sharkgaming\dropbox\mapping\mapsrc\ttt_peak.bsp
1 minute, 27 seconds elapsed
Valve Software - vrad.exe SSE (Oct 25 2011)

      Valve Radiosity Simulator     
4 threads
[Reading texlights from 'lights.rad']
[49 texlights parsed from 'lights.rad']

Loading c:\users\sharkgaming\dropbox\mapping\mapsrc\ttt_peak.bsp
Setting up ray-trace acceleration structure... Done (1.27 seconds)
6627 faces
2208981 square feet [318093376.00 square inches]
51 Displacements
34410 Square Feet [4955176.50 Square Inches]
6627 patches before subdivision
272897 patches after subdivision
sun extent from map=0.121869
100 direct lights
BuildFacelights:     0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (37)
BuildVisLeafs:       0...1...2...3...4...5...6.Run map on completion of Successful Compile!
..7...8...9...10 (28)
transfers 34126182, max 985
transfer lists: 260.4 megs
GatherLight:         0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (1)
   Bounce #1 added RGB(635533, 682083, 600963)
GatherLight:         0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
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   Bounce #12 added RGB(2, 0, 0)
GatherLight:         0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (1)
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Build Patch/Sample Hash Table(s).....Done<0.0673 sec>
FinalLightFace:      0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (6)
FinalLightFace Done
32 of 32 (100% of) surface lights went in leaf ambient cubes.
ThreadComputeLeafAmbient: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (6)
Writing leaf ambient...done
Ready to Finish

Object names       Objects/Maxobjs  Memory / Maxmem  Fullness 
------------       ---------------  ---------------  -------- 
models                  31/1024         1488/49152    ( 3.0%) 
brushes               1468/8192        17616/98304    (17.9%) 
brushsides           10704/65536       85632/524288   (16.3%) 
planes                3788/65536       75760/1310720  ( 5.8%) 
vertexes             12255/65536      147060/786432   (18.7%) 
nodes                 3147/65536      100704/2097152  ( 4.8%) 
texinfos              2091/12288      150552/884736   (17.0%) 
texdata                 92/2048         2944/65536    ( 4.5%) 
dispinfos               51/0            8976/0        ( 0.0%) 
disp_verts            9123/0          182460/0        ( 0.0%) 
disp_tris            15744/0           31488/0        ( 0.0%) 
disp_lmsamples      611621/0          611621/0        ( 0.0%) 
faces                 6627/65536      371112/3670016  (10.1%) 
hdr faces             6627/65536      371112/3670016  (10.1%) 
origfaces             3223/65536      180488/3670016  ( 4.9%) 
leaves                3179/65536      101728/2097152  ( 4.9%) 
leaffaces             8636/65536       17272/131072   (13.2%) 
leafbrushes           2993/65536        5986/131072   ( 4.6%) 
areas                    2/256            16/2048     ( 0.8%) 
surfedges            45601/512000     182404/2048000  ( 8.9%) 
edges                28143/256000     112572/1024000  (11.0%) 
LDR worldlights        100/8192         8800/720896   ( 1.2%) 
HDR worldlights        100/8192         8800/720896   ( 1.2%) 
leafwaterdata            0/32768           0/393216   ( 0.0%) 
waterstrips           1175/32768       11750/327680   ( 3.6%) 
waterverts               0/65536           0/786432   ( 0.0%) 
waterindices         21957/65536       43914/131072   (33.5%) 
cubemapsamples           0/1024            0/16384    ( 0.0%) 
overlays                38/512         13376/180224   ( 7.4%) 
LDR lightdata         [variable]     9660036/0        ( 0.0%) 
HDR lightdata         [variable]     9660036/0        ( 0.0%) 
visdata               [variable]      596652/16777216 ( 3.6%) 
entdata               [variable]       63163/393216   (16.1%) 
LDR ambient table     3179/65536       12716/262144   ( 4.9%) 
HDR ambient table     3179/65536       12716/262144   ( 4.9%) 
LDR leaf ambient     12973/65536      363244/1835008  (19.8%) 
HDR leaf ambient     12974/65536      363272/1835008  (19.8%) 
occluders                0/0               0/0        ( 0.0%) 
occluder polygons        0/0               0/0        ( 0.0%) 
occluder vert ind        0/0               0/0        ( 0.0%) 
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static props          [variable]           1/13932    ( 0.0%) 
pakfile               [variable]      174294/0        ( 0.0%) 
physics               [variable]     2301522/4194304  (54.9%) 
physics terrain       [variable]           0/1048576  ( 0.0%) 

Level flags = 0

Total triangle count: 19468
Writing c:\users\sharkgaming\dropbox\mapping\mapsrc\ttt_peak.bsp
1 minute, 25 seconds elapsed

Compile Complete for this module.
VRAD Completed: 15. april 2012,  18:22:45
VRAD: Compile time: 1 minute, 27 seconds elapsed
VRAD: Compile time: 1 minute, 25 seconds elapsed

One Line Summary: 15-04-2012 18:22:45, ttt_peak.vmf, Counter-Strike Source, normal , fast, normal, 00:00:03, 00:00:02, 00:02:54, 00:02:59
History.csv was updated.

Compile Summary - job mode: FAST
Map Name: ttt_peak.vmf
VBSP - mode:normal , 2 seconds, 00:00:03 elapsed
VVIS - mode:fast, 1 second, 00:00:02 elapsed
VRAD - mode:normal, 1 minute, 27 seconds(LDR), 1 minute, 25 seconds(HDR), 00:02:54 elapsed
Total Compile time: 00:02:59
                                                                  

NOTE: old BSP file deleted: c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\counter-chrille\counter-strike source\cstrike\maps\ttt_peak_old.bsp
NOTE: old BSP file renamed to : c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\counter-chrille\counter-strike source\cstrike\maps\ttt_peak_old.bsp

File copied: C:\Users\Sharkgaming\Dropbox\MAPPING\mapsrc\ttt_peak.bsp to c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\counter-chrille\counter-strike source\cstrike\maps\ttt_peak.bsp
Game Launch: c:/program files (x86)/steam/steam.exe -applaunch 240 +map "ttt_peak" 

Edit: And it used to compile and launch perfectly fine.

[~ZOMG]

Delete all models in your map (select them using visgroups) and then try compiling. Be careful not to save when the models are deleted and overwrite your old save.

[Prez]

[quote]
VBSP: WARNING: Map using power 4 displacements, terrain physics cannot be compressed, map will need additional memory and CPU.
[/quote]

Try making your displacements a different power, because for some reason sdk doesn't like power 4 displacements. This might not cause the problem, but I noticed it.

[Chrille]

[QUOTE=~ZOMG;35582777]Delete all models in your map (select them using visgroups) and then try compiling. Be careful not to save when the models are deleted and overwrite your old save.[/QUOTE]

Didn't work :c

[QUOTE=Prez;35582781]Try making your displacements a different power, because for some reason sdk doesn't like power 4 displacements. This might not cause the problem, but I noticed it.[/QUOTE]

Well, I could try this, but it wasn't a problem previously.

[editline]15th April 2012[/editline]

didn't work

[LazyBastard]

What software should I use for mapping? Source SDK doesn't take BSP files and I just wanna do a simple edit to a map.

[Chrille]

[QUOTE=LazyBastard;35584843]What software should I use for mapping? Source SDK doesn't take BSP files and I just wanna do a simple edit to a map.[/QUOTE]

You have to decompile the map so it's readable in Hammer. The Source SDK is pretty much your only option.

[LazyBastard]

[QUOTE=Chrille;35585009]You have to decompile the map so it's readable in Hammer. The Source SDK is pretty much your only option.[/QUOTE]

How do I decompile?

Feeling like a genius ,_,

[Miigga]

[QUOTE=LazyBastard;35585054]How do I decompile?

Feeling like a genius ,_,[/QUOTE]

Decompiling screws shit up so you'd pretty much be better off asking the mapper for the .vmf file or something.

[LazyBastard]

[QUOTE=Miigga;35585177]Decompiling screws shit up so you'd pretty much be better off asking the mapper for the .vmf file or something.[/QUOTE]

Who's the map maker of the Downtown map? ,_,

[Sergeant Stacker]

Out of curiosity, what happens if you carve a displacement?

[Legend286]

[QUOTE=Sergeant Stacker;35586023]Out of curiosity, what happens if you carve a displacement?[/QUOTE]

Nothing / it turns back into a brush.

[IronPhoenix]

I'm looking for the detail sprite that makes the blenddirtdirt001a texture look awesome in hl2, but is missing in ep2.

I think it is called citygrass01, but cannot find it in the gcf's, any idea where i can find it?

[img_thumb]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/540672970807703087/74B4EBC1F1B7216378248EF46DDBDA3BDF72A69A/[/img_thumb]

[bIgFaTwOrM12]

For some reason the shadows cast by my trees don't effect npcs, anybody know how to fix this?
[IMG]http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/844/sdkcustommodeltest0000.jpg[/IMG]

[Azzator]

I'm posting about that skybox problem I'm still having. The compile log's been pretty useless but I did manage to find this bit of text in the console in-game:

Requesting texture value from var "$basetexture" which is not a texture value (material: skybox/militia_hdrrt)
Requesting texture value from var "$basetexture" which is not a texture value (material: skybox/militia_hdrbk)
Requesting texture value from var "$basetexture" which is not a texture value (material: skybox/militia_hdrlf)
Requesting texture value from var "$basetexture" which is not a texture value (material: skybox/militia_hdrft)
Requesting texture value from var "$basetexture" which is not a texture value (material: skybox/militia_hdrup)
Requesting texture value from var "$basetexture" which is not a texture value (material: skybox/militia_hdrdn)

Also, I found some other reds which I thought I should share here

SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props/cs_office/doorknobb.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props/de_train/de_train_securityguard.mdl)

Thanks.

[Zethin]

[QUOTE=Azzator;35588730]I'm posting about that skybox problem I'm still having. The compile log's been pretty useless but I did manage to find this bit of text in the console in-game:

Requesting texture value from var "$basetexture" which is not a texture value (material: skybox/militia_hdrrt)
Requesting texture value from var "$basetexture" which is not a texture value (material: skybox/militia_hdrbk)
Requesting texture value from var "$basetexture" which is not a texture value (material: skybox/militia_hdrlf)
Requesting texture value from var "$basetexture" which is not a texture value (material: skybox/militia_hdrft)
Requesting texture value from var "$basetexture" which is not a texture value (material: skybox/militia_hdrup)
Requesting texture value from var "$basetexture" which is not a texture value (material: skybox/militia_hdrdn)

Also, I found some other reds which I thought I should share here

SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props/cs_office/doorknobb.mdl)
SOLID_VPHYSICS static prop with no vphysics model! (models/props/de_train/de_train_securityguard.mdl)

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

It looks like you named your skybox wrong or the game you are testing in does not have cs:s ported/is not cs:s. Probably the last option.

e:

Nevermind. I'm stumped.

e2:

Wait, your CS:S isn't showing up under the Source MP category? Make sure when you set up CS:S for source 2009 you placed the correct path to the .fgd in the options section.

[Azzator]

^

As I said before, I got it to appear already so the setup probably isn't an issue. Right now, I'm retexturing my glass brushes as it might be conflicting with it or something. Thanks for trying to help.

[editline]16th April 2012[/editline]

Fuck, nothing happened. I'm going crazy over staring at the same, disgusting, pink-checkered sky. Goddamnit Hammer.

[Matt2468rv]

Will anything drastically bad happen performance wise if I use particle-based water for waterfalls in a multiplayer TTT map?

It should work fine if I pakrat the particle files, right?

[Azzator]

I'm making a lot of cubicles just using Hammer. Should I use func_detail or Propper?

[Fulcrum]

[QUOTE=Azzator;35591531]I'm making a lot of cubicles just using Hammer. Should I use func_detail or Propper?[/QUOTE]

How do you want the lighting to be on them?

[Azzator]

The cubicles will be put in a dim room so I guess they don't need that good lighting.

[Miigga]

[QUOTE=Azzator;35591656]The cubicles will be put in a dim room so I guess they don't need that good lighting.[/QUOTE]

Propper:
+ Possibility for more detail (does not have to be on-grid)
- Crappier lighting

Func_detail:
+ Nicer lighting
- Less detail is possible

Sounds like in your case you don't need fancy lighting so propper should probably be your choice. If you do choose propper, make sure you make it more detailed than you would with func_detail. For instance, you can scale it up 8 or 16 times, work with that grid and then scale it back down to normal size and turn it into a prop.

[H4wkeye]

Is it possible to make rain puddles in Hammer? I mean if it's raining outside, the surface should be wet/have puddles, but I'm not sure if it's doable or how.

[ARitz Cracker]

[QUOTE=H4wkeye;35593495]Is it possible to make rain puddles in Hammer? I mean if it's raining outside, the surface should be wet/have puddles, but I'm not sure if it's doable or how.[/QUOTE]

Displacements with water in them

[H4wkeye]

Ah good idea. That should work. And what about the surface being wet? Is that even possible in hammer?

[Prez]

[QUOTE=H4wkeye;35593560]Ah good idea. That should work. And what about the surface being wet? Is that even possible in hammer?[/QUOTE]

Depends on how wet you mean. You can always have a tiny little surface of water over parts of the map (Which are really puddles, I suppose), but you could also, with work, insert noises that sound like someone stepping/sloshing in muddy terrain just for effect.

[Fulcrum]

[QUOTE=H4wkeye;35593560]Ah good idea. That should work. And what about the surface being wet? Is that even possible in hammer?[/QUOTE]

Specularity map with lots of white. (white is reflective) or for a more fancy effect render target with the camera nxt to it. To everything is reflected.

[H4wkeye]

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;35593922]Specularity map with lots of white. (white is reflective) or for a more fancy effect render target with the camera nxt to it. To everything is reflected.[/QUOTE]

I have no idea how to do that or what all that means. But it sounds complicated. I think I'll just stick to making some puddles :v:

[editline]16th April 2012[/editline]

[QUOTE=Prez;35593686]Depends on how wet you mean. You can always have a tiny little surface of water over parts of the map (Which are really puddles, I suppose), but you could also, with work, insert noises that sound like someone stepping/sloshing in muddy terrain just for effect.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I think I'll just do some puddles.

[Greatdictator]

I have a quick question
[url]http://www.gamebanana.com/css/maps/164363?dirname=css[/url]

Ive recently downloaded several css maps off of game banana among them being the one im showing here and several of them simply end up crashing gmod while loading.....i have no idea what could be causeing it so any help would be appreciated

[GunskiMod]

Does anyone know of good places to get skybox textures besides GameBanana and [url=facepunch.com/threads/970112]this thread[/url]?

[Stiffy360]

Did I just completely screw my curves or are these alright?

[IMG]http://i39.tinypic.com/2vbr7zc.png[/IMG]