[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;50477562]Its not even the lack of static/dynamic props that kills it for me. What ruins my chub is windows without frames. And don't give me some crap how the texture already has it. It lacks depth, feeling and authenicity that this is a window. Ever see a pane of glass and someone painted a frame on it?
Also note how doors lack frames too. They're probably bolted straight to the foundation of safety reasons.
Look at that building in the back on the right. Its literally windows stacked against each other. The gas station has no overhang on the curb facing pump, but ample spacing on the face that ends the building. Hate to be under that lopped sided pump during a gentle breeze.
The sidewalks are literally not even aligned right. Who laid that concrete and put the same repetitive crack on each tile? Wondos had a serious lapse in judgement when they decided to use a padded ceiling as a roof. Those stairs on the front most building on the left, I'm not going to go there.
This is an RP map on why building codes exist.[/QUOTE]
I'm not giving you any crap Richard but I will say because the texture already has it why put anything there then. Simple as that. No need to get angry dude. Anyway that sidewalkj texture was the only one I could find. It's suppose to be like its a rundown sidewalk not concrete "laid and put the same repetitive crack on each tile".
[editline]8th June 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Maclman;50476190]I never said anything about rp_evocity. :huh: (I will not comment on that version of the map since I'm completely unfamiliar with it. However from my experience static props are no joke the least of any shittily made gmod map's problems)
But I think you miss the point entirely.
In fact static props require so little power, they are know for aiding in optimisation so much that this champ even updated propper to easily work post steampipe [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1520067[/url]
EDIT
Glad to see you've got 50 posts now, best go shit-rate all the posts that genuinely offer any help[/QUOTE]
I'm not shit rating any comments smartass. Don't flame at me when I clearly never flamed at you.
And half these people don't offer any help, they just complain about little things about my map dude.
[editline]8th June 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=gnampf;50475963]>RP_csdesert is an empty map
Maybe because deserts are supposed to be empty and towns like yours aren't? I don't think the issue is how many props you can fill a place with, but that nothing here looks remotely realistic. Real life houses don't look like Lego structures, nor are towns built with exactly straight roads and towering walls around them. "Finishing" a map shouldn't be shoveling more shit in there, finishing it should mean improving it to where people would want to play it and just maybe, it could look as realistic as evocity or Rockford.
But what do I know, this point has been brought up at least a dozen times and a dozen times its fallen on deaf ears. If you're wondering why nobody is liking this, it's very likely because of that.[/QUOTE]
Look, I never said csdesert shouldn't be deserted I just was stated what IS and ISN'T empty. My map by far is not empty.
When you guys feel to rate me, please think before you do. Don't just go and rate me dumb, funny etc.
[QUOTE=lyosea;50477951]that sidewalkj texture was the only one I could find[/QUOTE]
[t]https://i.gyazo.com/bd98419e89105d7f43b991690b047fe3.png[/t]
???
[QUOTE=lyosea;50477951]When you guys feel to rate me, please think before you do. Don't just go and rate me dumb, funny etc.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps you should consider the same now that you're rating everyone with actual good advice dumb. "they just complain about little things about my map", maybe you should have a go at fixing them then?
[QUOTE=lyosea;50477951]I'm not giving you any crap Richard but I will say because the texture already has it why put anything there then. Simple as that. No need to get angry dude. Anyway that sidewalkj texture was the only one I could find. It's suppose to be like its a rundown sidewalk not concrete "laid and put the same repetitive crack on each tile".
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My dearest lyosea, i was being sardonic not angry. Why is that texture even used that way? Its typically rotated 90 degrees in the opposite direction you're using it. The way you're doing it causes it to repeat heavily as you can see.
As you can see here, I got some textures aligned correctly, some are not. The top are put onto their intended rotation (top row, 0 on top face, 90 on side face. Bottom row, 90 on top face, 0 on side)
[IMG]http://puu.sh/plMUo/dcf3926630.png/ss (2016-06-08 at 05.05.50).png[/IMG]
Which looks right, and what looks bad?
[QUOTE=lyosea;50477951]When you guys feel to rate me, please think before you do. Don't just go and rate me dumb, funny etc.[/QUOTE]
I usually do. I rate them dumb when i feel legitimately more dumb after reading it. Its a simple system
[editline]8th June 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=gnampf;50478459]Perhaps you should consider the same now that you're rating everyone with actual good advice dumb. "they just complain about little things about my map", maybe you should have a go at fixing them then?[/QUOTE]
You would of thought the smaller things would be the easiest and quickest to fix. But I suppose our criticism in his eyes is cyberbullying. I'd lawyer up right about now.
-l8-
[QUOTE=RonanZer0;50478280][t]https://i.gyazo.com/bd98419e89105d7f43b991690b047fe3.png[/t]
???[/QUOTE]
lol, I meant it was the only one I could find online as in custom textures. I looked on textures . com to find textures.
[editline]8th June 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=gnampf;50478459]Perhaps you should consider the same now that you're rating everyone with actual good advice dumb. "they just complain about little things about my map", maybe you should have a go at fixing them then?[/QUOTE]
I only rated you dumb gnapmf because you always say nothing but negative things. Richard has made a few good points before. Pretty much everyone but you. When I said "people" I meant just you. I really tried to be the nice new guy in the beginning but it seems I can't be when you always say negative things, and not "constructive criticism". Why don't you comment to someone else for a change.
[editline]8th June 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;50480128]My dearest lyosea, i was being sardonic not angry. Why is that texture even used that way? Its typically rotated 90 degrees in the opposite direction you're using it. The way you're doing it causes it to repeat heavily as you can see.
As you can see here, I got some textures aligned correctly, some are not. The top are put onto their intended rotation (top row, 0 on top face, 90 on side face. Bottom row, 90 on top face, 0 on side)
[IMG]http://puu.sh/plMUo/dcf3926630.png/ss (2016-06-08 at 05.05.50).png[/IMG]
Which looks right, and what looks bad?
I usually do. I rate them dumb when i feel legitimately more dumb after reading it. Its a simple system
[editline]8th June 2016[/editline]
You would of thought the smaller things would be the easiest and quickest to fix. But I suppose our criticism in his eyes is cyberbullying. I'd lawyer up right about now.[/QUOTE]
My dearest Richard Simmons don't you also be silly now. I never said any of this was "cyberbullying". I hate how I'm starting to be treated like a child now though. I try as hard as I can to be professional but I just can't. This site just isn't that. I will say Richard, that you do at times seem professional and I'll just admit I'm a stubborn person. It's just how I am I won't lie about that. I really didn't want to be the noobish person and get involved in fights but it just seems like I'm easy prey. When you make a map and hear the words "blocky" ,"uninteresting", "boring" and just plain "dull", it can get a little bit irritating after a while. Unlike gnampf said that I don't go around fixing stuff, I do fix stuff it's just some stuff I try not to worry about. This map orignally I thought of as fun but it's starting to be a pain when people keep suggesting this and that. That's why I get angry at times. Something I thought of as fun is turning into a chore. I didn't think making custom maps would be seen as "serious". Look at me ranting, this is just really getting old.
I just really want to be like I am in real life. Be liked by people. Not made fun of. I don't try to make fun of others so why is it happening here? I just don't understand. I always try to stay away from drama. Also I just wish I never made that stupid comment to Richard. I don't want people to see me like this...
[QUOTE]I only rated you dumb gnapmf because you always say nothing but negative things. Richard has made a few good points before. Pretty much everyone but you[/QUOTE]
So me giving you pointers on what makes a realistic looking map is something negative? Come on, this cycle has been going over and over again:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/3ZXNCuG.png[/IMG]
Where is the lie though?
[QUOTE=lyosea;50481743]lol, I meant it was the only one I could find online as in custom textures. I looked on textures . com to find textures.[/QUOTE]
Why does it has to be custom textures, though? Standard textures work just fine, don't need so much work to get right, and allow you to focus on other parts of the map.
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;50480128]My dearest lyosea, i was being sardonic not angry. Why is
You would of thought the smaller things would be the easiest and quickest to fix. But I suppose our criticism in his eyes is cyberbullying. I'd lawyer up right about now.[/QUOTE]
Mate we're fucked, he's gonna get onto us and we'll probs all end up for "honestly trying to help a kid but he thinks you were being too honest so that's that." :')
[QUOTE=T553412;50482161]Why does it has to be custom textures, though? Standard textures work just fine, don't need so much work to get right, and allow you to focus on other parts of the map.[/QUOTE]
Honestly I died a little when I read that part, gotta love how much his textures make his map look like it's part of the real world. Right?
[QUOTE=lyosea;50481743] When you make a map and hear the words "blocky" ,"uninteresting", "boring" and just plain "dull", it can get a little bit irritating after a while.[/QUOTE]
Ever hear of learning from mistakes? The principal of constructive criticism, feedback and public opinion? When you're hearing people calling something blocky, uninteresting, boring, unrealistic, dull, etc. You should get the gist that, hey maybe I should improve on my work. It did for me, and you know what the truth hurts. But I improved. You just need to soldier on and focus more into your work.
What you get defensive, say thats how you made it and its beautiful, you're being delusional. If its beautiful to you and thats all that matters. Then keep the map to yourself.
[QUOTE=lyosea;50481743]
I just really want to be like I am in real life. Be liked by people. Not made fun of. I don't try to make fun of others so why is it happening here? I just don't understand. I always try to stay away from drama. Also I just wish I never made that stupid comment to Richard. I don't want people to see me like this...[/QUOTE]
Just stop then. You're not going to be liked or loved by everyone in this life. You claim you're 26, and you should understand this. You're not going to win everyones heart. I'm trying to be helpful, but most of the time it seems like im just repeating myself to a brick wall.
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;50482437]Ever hear of learning from mistakes? The principal of constructive criticism, feedback and public opinion? When you're hearing people calling something blocky, uninteresting, boring, unrealistic, dull, etc. You should get the gist that, hey maybe I should improve on my work. It did for me, and you know what the truth hurts. But I improved. You just need to soldier on and focus more into your work.
What you get defensive, say thats how you made it and its beautiful, you're being delusional. If its beautiful to you and thats all that matters. Then keep the map to yourself.
Just stop then. You're not going to be liked or loved by everyone in this life. You claim you're 26, and you should understand this. You're not going to win everyones heart. I'm trying to be helpful, but most of the time it seems like im just repeating myself to a brick wall.[/QUOTE]
Maybe not on here but in real life I am.
[QUOTE=lyosea;50484387]Maybe not on here but in real life I am.[/QUOTE]
And what have you done in real life to be "loved by everyone" in real life? I can hardly imagine them liking you if you pull the shit here in real life.
[QUOTE=gnampf;50484495]And what have you done in real life to be "loved by everyone" in real life? I can hardly imagine them liking you if you pull the shit here in real life.[/QUOTE]
Gnampf I am no where near like I am on here in real life. In real life I hold my tongue all the time. This is the internet, you act different then in real life. I'm pretty sure you act different here than in real life too. When I said everyone, I meant my friends, family and coworkers. Yes not "everyone" loves me. If you act like YOU do gnampf, then I'm pretty sure everyone would think of you as a dickhead. No offense
[editline]9th June 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=T553412;50482161]Why does it has to be custom textures, though? Standard textures work just fine, don't need so much work to get right, and allow you to focus on other parts of the map.[/QUOTE]
Oh I agree, but gnapmf here says I shouldn't use hl2 textures and have right angles. The reason I don't listen to everything everyone says , is because I CANT! People say different things. It gives me a headache reading comments like gnapmfs. And that macro he posted, oh please. lol
[QUOTE]This is the internet, you act different then in real life. I'm pretty sure you act different here than in real life too. [/QUOTE]
So you think your mere presence online here gives you a card to act like an ass?
I think I understand where you're coming from now.
[QUOTE=gnampf;50486915]So you think your mere presence online here gives you a card to act like an ass?
I think I understand where you're coming from now.[/QUOTE]
Yeah mate, it's all making sense.
Not only can you act like a complete ass to everyone, but you can go around making shitty maps acting like a 10 year old who get's butt-hurt when people try to help you make something which isn't shit.
Also let's never forget the part where you still live in your mum's basement with your evil little brother making you look like more of a retard then you already are
[QUOTE=lyosea;50158488]Richard I'm so sorry you had to read that my little brother was using my account and made that retarded post. I don't think he knows that Richard Simmons is a homosexual gymnast and not yourself.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Maclman;50487524]Yeah mate, it's all making sense.
Not only can you act like a complete ass to everyone, but you can go around making shitty maps acting like a 10 year old who get's butt-hurt when people try to help you make something which isn't shit.
Also let's never forget the part where you still live in your mum's basement with your evil little brother making you look like more of a retard then you already are[/QUOTE]
but hes 26, and hes the youngest who has a brother that is 21.
Hehehe I really fucked up now. :( Okay. This is too funny. I can't believe I acted like such an idiot on here. Btw the way gnampf is universetwisters your gtafourms account?
[QUOTE=lyosea;50488522]Btw the way gnampf is universetwisters your gtafourms account?[/QUOTE]
Yes, but don't go changing the subject now, you got a lot to own up to it looks like.
Bud, at the end of the day you can't (and shouldn't) expect everyone to like you. At the same time, you need to realize that none of us here were/are trying to be dicks (well okay, maybe a couple of us, I dunno), we're trying to offer legitimate criticism to help you improve your mapping abilities. But if you can't handle criticism, you aren't going to get very far in life, let alone making decent maps.
Trust me, I sucked major ass when I first started working with Hammer. But once I started taking criticisms from both folk on FP, as well as other people I knew, what a surprise: I got way better, and I went from making shit like this:
[t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/258209380324531364/CF28B3EAC8960CB4BE482C66C0EB06C80CC8F2E2/[/t][t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/258209380324531472/62362BA45B90A3EA45D13FEFD77CE74576F3A322/[/t]
To making stuff like this:
[t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/258209380324531571/B337DCE2308CAE1BB9B06558C0CE52E46D88552A/[/t][t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/258209380324531662/C7432721BD950B56B8225BE8E521039BEDDDB808/[/t]
How did I come this far? Taking in suggestions from others that sounded good, and accepting a wide manner of criticisms.
So basically, what I'm saying is: Grow a pair and stop taking everything quite so personal. We're not trying to bully you, we're trying to help you, goofy. Even if we don't always say things in the nicest way.
[QUOTE=Marcolade;50488689]Bud, at the end of the day you can't (and shouldn't) expect everyone to like you. At the same time, you need to realize that none of us here were/are trying to be dicks (well okay, maybe a couple of us, I dunno), we're trying to offer legitimate criticism to help you improve your mapping abilities. But if you can't handle criticism, you aren't going to get very far in life, let alone making decent maps.
Trust me, I sucked major ass when I first started working with Hammer. But once I started taking criticisms from both folk on FP, as well as other people I knew, what a surprise: I got way better, and I went from making shit like this:
[t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/258209380324531364/CF28B3EAC8960CB4BE482C66C0EB06C80CC8F2E2/[/t][t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/258209380324531472/62362BA45B90A3EA45D13FEFD77CE74576F3A322/[/t]
To making stuff like this:
[t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/258209380324531571/B337DCE2308CAE1BB9B06558C0CE52E46D88552A/[/t][t]http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/258209380324531662/C7432721BD950B56B8225BE8E521039BEDDDB808/[/t]
How did I come this far? Taking in suggestions from others that sounded good, and accepting a wide manner of criticisms.
So basically, what I'm saying is: Grow a pair and stop taking everything quite so personal. We're not trying to bully you, we're trying to help you, goofy. Even if we don't always say things in the nicest way.[/QUOTE]
Thank you and I must say your work is very impressive. I really wish I never made any of those retarded posts. I think now that I will take a 3 week break from this site and focus on the map and real life work. I need to stop arguing like a 10 year old and grow up. I'm going to break that "cycle" as gnampf put it before. :)
[QUOTE]I think now that I will take a 3 week break from this site [/QUOTE]
Okay bye we'll be looking forward to hearing from your brother, who you're going to let use your account while you're away and emulate your exact grammar patterns and dictation.
Map got updated! Check the front post for more infomation. Some of you might like it some not but it is my [B]last[/B] update for this map. So I really hope you like it. If not well too bad. I'm going to start on a new map soon. Don't know what it will be called but I'll make sure its 10x better than this one!
I just want to say even though I argued with a lot of you guys in the past, you really did make this map better. I thank you. If it wasn't for your criticism I would still think that the first version of this map would be good. So thank you gnampf, Richard Simmons(Zion), Maclman, Grenade Man,Turkley and Jcw87.
I gave it a try and I couldn't really tell that much different than what it was before. Of course, the scary house is gone and some creatures are added to the zoo, but all in all it still looks like the same very blocky town. All those right angles would fit in like Minecraft, but I don't know about source.
Another thing that's confusing me, if this is a glass company like it says it is on the front, why does it have the interior or a fire station with the pole and everything?
[t]http://i.imgur.com/Wfb3Iw4.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=gnampf;50957434]I gave it a try and I couldn't really tell that much different than what it was before. Of course, the scary house is gone and some creatures are added to the zoo, but all in all it still looks like the same very blocky town. All those right angles would fit in like Minecraft, but I don't know about source.
Another thing that's confusing me, if this is a glass company like it says it is on the front, why does it have the interior or a fire station with the pole and everything?
[t]http://i.imgur.com/Wfb3Iw4.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Aw man lol still the same blocky town eh, well the fire station is suppose to be like a guy named "Glass" owns it and not a glass company. I couldn't find a name that fits it well and I'm not real good at making signs in paint.net and photoshop is out of my price range. Did you see the prison yet? Surely thats gotta score some brownie points at least? :ohno:
Also the one white house in the suburbs area has a more ectended backyard. Plus theres more threes and stuff near the city pool. Lastly the church in the outskirts along with the outside of the car dealership. I'm suprised you haven't noticed. :speechless:
September 5 2016-Map just got updated again, now with some new [I]dynamic scenery[/I] which I feel will spice up the parts of the level. Ex: The bathroom in the main town hall.
[i]dynamic[/i] scenery? did you just add prop_dynamics and you're completely misusing the word?
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;51006908][i]dynamic[/i] scenery? did you just add prop_dynamics and you're completely misusing the word?[/QUOTE]
First off please don't call me dumb.
Second, no I added scripted sequences to the map, also nice haircut is it new?
Literally all you're doing is adding new things to your map instead of actually fixing it.
It's like if you made a fucking rotten, nasty, terrible hamburger and you're trying to make us eat it. We all say no because we don't want that nasty patty and then you turn around and say COME ON IT'S BETTER NOW BECAUSE I PUT LETTUCE ON IT!!!!
E. ????????????????????????
[t]http://i.imgur.com/CcSBR6p.jpg[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/z3cVxt3.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=gnampf;51008822]Literally all you're doing is adding new things to your map instead of actually fixing it.
It's like if you made a fucking rotten, nasty, terrible hamburger and you're trying to make us eat it. We all say no because we don't want that nasty patty and then you turn around and say COME ON IT'S BETTER NOW BECAUSE I PUT LETTUCE ON IT!!!!
E. ????????????????????????
[t]http://i.imgur.com/CcSBR6p.jpg[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/z3cVxt3.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Terrible comparison gnampf, terrible. Also I was talking to Richard not you. I'm done on this site. You people are just retarded. I make a post, it gets rated dumb. I say please don't call me a certain insult, AAAAANNNNDDDD you guys just bitch at me.This is the end. It was a decent run but eh whatever. I'll try some other place. Have a jolly shit day gnampf and Richard.
I was pointing out what you're doing isn't really benificial nor does it really improve the map but alright, bye (if you're really leaving for real this time). I can't wait to meet new mappers who accept criticism and learn from it.
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