• Spacebuild Enhancement Project Official Thread V9
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  • [QUOTE=ErrJect;35687733]On the fancy spacedock for building, if worst comes to worst, we can always rebuild the model from scratch.[/QUOTE] Would you mind doing that please, if we can't find Cherubim's parts?
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  • Sorry for interrupting... but since svn links are renewed, wont my old svn linked file update to latest? if it wont, how can i change svn's link to new one without losing files in it? because redownloading all the things would get so much time for me.
  • [QUOTE=ErrJect;35687733]Well, I've already gone ahead and added most of the parts I and Mandrac made to the assembler tool, but I've yet to go in and try adding them to the spawner tool. On the fancy spacedock for building, if worst comes to worst, we can always rebuild the model from scratch.[/QUOTE] I have the old SBMP folder and know for a fact that the spacedock parts are in it, but I can't pinpoint exactly where the files are within it. If someone wants me to zip the folder to send it, please let me know.
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  • [QUOTE=Citron777;35696423]Sorry for interrupting... but since svn links are renewed, wont my old svn linked file update to latest? if it wont, how can i change svn's link to new one without losing files in it? because redownloading all the things would get so much time for me.[/QUOTE] The old svn gets synced with the new one. So you don't have to change it. But if you ever have to checkout again fully. It's better to use the new svn...
  • [QUOTE=HonorGuard;35693908]Would you mind doing that please, if we can't find Cherubim's parts?[/QUOTE] I have found Cherubim's parts, need to know who to send the zip to
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  • [QUOTE=Stevie-C;35712187]I have found Cherubim's parts, need to know who to send the zip to[/QUOTE] You could just upload it somewhere and post a link.
  • [QUOTE=cbale2000;35712338]You could just upload it somewhere and post a link.[/QUOTE] I've uploaded it to my DropBox public folder. [URL="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/47829563/SBMP.zip"]Here[/URL]'s a direct link to the file itself. It's a zip of the old SBMP addon, all I know is that the models are somewhere in it. Exactly WHERE the specific files are that are the files explicitly for Cherubim's space-dock, I do NOT know. Someone who's better than me at picking out which files are needed for which in-game objects will have to examine the zip file's contents.
  • I don't have half of the tools in my game, is there any reason why? The only SBEP tool I have is the "lift" tool and that's it. I have the Model Pack and the Enhancement Pack installed.
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  • [QUOTE=AppoCeurT;35732766]I don't have half of the tools in my game, is there any reason why? The only SBEP tool I have is the "lift" tool and that's it. I have the Model Pack and the Enhancement Pack installed.[/QUOTE] Assuming you're using the SVN version, most of the tools should be in the "SBEP Experimental" folder, so if you don't have that in your addons folder that might be why.
  • [QUOTE=cbale2000;35732878]Assuming you're using the SVN version, most of the tools should be in the "SBEP Experimental" folder, so if you don't have that in your addons folder that might be why.[/QUOTE] My folder hierarchy is: \garrysmod\garrysmod\addons\Spacebuild Enhacement Pack\SBEP_Experimental Should the SBEP_Experimental folder be outside of the top level SBEP folder? EDIT* I put the SBEP_Experimental folder into the addons directory instead of inside the SVN folder, now my game just freezes with the black "Loading..." box in the bottom right. EDIT 2* I undid that and now my gmod just always does that, everything's fucked
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  • [QUOTE=AppoCeurT;35732926]My folder hierarchy is: \garrysmod\garrysmod\addons\Spacebuild Enhacement Pack\SBEP_Experimental Should the SBEP_Experimental folder be outside of the top level SBEP folder? EDIT* I put the SBEP_Experimental folder into the addons directory instead of inside the SVN folder, now my game just freezes with the black "Loading..." box in the bottom right. EDIT 2* I undid that and now my gmod just always does that, everything's fucked[/QUOTE] Everything inside of the main svn folder should be in the addons folder
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  • There's a new "Proto Rover" on the experimental SVN, could someone confirm whether it works for everyone else? :P
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  • Hey guys, having a slight problem - I'm using a server with Elpis Host (linux server, btw) and my friend and I installed SBEP correctly, but most of the props do not spawn. In-server, I have the spawn lists, but they won't spawn or do anything. Any ideas? This has baffled both of us as we're not exactly used to linux, but we've solved the only problem we can think might be affecting it (lowercase problem-every file and folder is now lowercase)
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  • [QUOTE=AppoCeurT;35732926]I put the SBEP_Experimental folder into the addons directory instead of inside the SVN folder, now my game just freezes with the black "Loading..." box in the bottom right.[/QUOTE] You sure it completely froze? Putting an SVN'd folder directly into addons really cranks up the loading time due to the thousands of files in hidden subfolders. For me, the usual load (this pack plus a few others) gives a good five minutes from starting Gmod to fully loading a map (that is, while I was still running WinXP and had actual system performance instead of the Win7 lagfest I'm having right now). And an addition to your post: from what you wrote, I presume you put the old SBMP pack in there as well. Use ONLY the SVN or there could be problems.
  • also in the new SVN, can someone please check the file in SBEP_Experimental/lua/entities/MannedTurret/init.lua on the SVN. It has a ` at the beginning of the file which makes the entity in the Q menu not work. Thus far I've always had to MANUALLY fix this. If someone could fix it in the SVN itself, it would make life a LOT easier!
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  • [QUOTE=Stevie-C;35751424]also in the new SVN, can someone please check the file in SBEP_Experimental/lua/entities/MannedTurret/init.lua on the SVN. It has a ` at the beginning of the file which makes the entity in the Q menu not work. Thus far I've always had to MANUALLY fix this. If someone could fix it in the SVN itself, it would make life a LOT easier![/QUOTE] That may have been intentional if it was determined that it was causing some game-breaking error... Just sayin.
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  • Quick question for the devs. (everyone else can ignore this). How much experience do you have with git? and which do you prefer? (Git or SVN)? Trying to figure out if we should switch to git or not... (if the majority says yes we will, otherwise svn will remain). For the users: the release svn(s) you are using will stay the same and get updated with all the changes. So for you guys nothing would change...
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  • [QUOTE=SB2DevTeam;35792670]Quick question for the devs. (everyone else can ignore this). How much experience do you have with git? and which do you prefer? (Git or SVN)? Trying to figure out if we should switch to git or not... (if the majority says yes we will, otherwise svn will remain). For the users: the release svn(s) you are using will stay the same and get updated with all the changes. So for you guys nothing would change...[/QUOTE] Why can't the users get git as well? It's a much nicer set-up with a lot less overhead. A bit trickier to set-up, but there are plenty of guides for that.
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  • [QUOTE=LemONPLaNE;35792810]Why can't the users get git as well? It's a much nicer set-up with a lot less overhead. A bit trickier to set-up, but there are plenty of guides for that.[/QUOTE] They can offcourse if they wanted to :) Was just saying they don't have to be worried about the svn getting removed.
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  • I haven't even heard of Git before now. Other news, I've downloaded that SBMP from further up the page, and found the spacedock parts within. I can move them over to the Models svn later, but first I think I'll convert the parts from the NewBridge section to be SmB skin compatable. Maybe even try making them work with the part assembler.
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  • There are only like 5 NewBridge pieces, and as I recall, they were supplanted by the Cohesion Smallbridge set that's not finished.
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  • I had quite a long play with (or experiment, if you prefer) the new SmB parts from Mandrac and Errject yesterday - I'm very impressed. I had a few derp moments trying to fit the cockpit addon into each of the cockpit pieces in turn til I read the model name and... well less said about that the better. One question though, and this applies to both the cockpit addon and the room divider - would it be possible to somehow integrate those two parts with the part assembler stool? Unless I'm doing something very wrong, the cockpit addon wouldn't actually fit inside the collision box of the matching cockpit piece. I created an elaborate workaround using several SmB parts to fit the room divider perfectly into the corresponding SmB dw hull, but it'd be more in-line with the general theme to have them using the same tools. I'd be happy to do it myself and contribute it but I can't get my head round the - sparse - documentation for adding parts to the tool.
  • I agree. MandracFR's SmallBridge Single-Height Single-Width Cockpit Console and his SmallBridge Single-Height-Double-Width room dividers need to be either made installable via the SBEP Part Assembler, which I suspect is a lot LESS simple than one might like to assume, OR we need to add pre-assembled parts that have it already added (perhaps also scripting the doors on the double-width room divider?) Also was wondering if/when the Cohesion (or was it Experimental?) SmallBridge parts with the awesome looking pipes and such will be added to the SBEP Part Assembler, and whether they could be made into CAF/LS3 Resource Modules since my main complaint about the otherwise awesome looking design is it leaves a lot LESS space available for setting up life support machines. Also, SmallBridge wings need ONE more addition: VERTICAL TAILFINS, PLEASE! As an aviation nerd, I cringe EVERY time I see an airplane without a rudder, with the obvious exception of flying wing designs.
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  • Well, the special interior stuff could just have a custom assembler point added for them and similar hull sections. As for the Cohesion parts, I could later try adding them to the assembler. Most of them I should be able to copy+paste the points from the existing SmB parts. As for tailfins, couldn't you just use a wing from the integrated PHX stuff? Would think that'd work.
  • Well, adding a custom assembler point would be one way it could be done, but for the cockpit addon, at least, it would make more sense to simply add a pre-assembled part that already has it installed in the cockpit piece it's designed to fit. I'll admit that a custom assembler point makes sense for the room divider, BUT! it'd still (as far as I can see) be more complicated than simply designing a prefab unit. And like I said, for the room divider, it might be wise to make that prefab module using the "Door" SBEP tool so that one could wire controls for the "left" and "right" room doors independently of each other. I might be completely wrong about this, but I think it'd be particularly useful to be able to "open" and "lock" the two rooms' doors independently of each other.
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  • I agree with Stevie - the model was clearly designed with doors in mind, and there's a door model too. Would be cool if this was done
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  • I have now uploaded my modifications to the part assembler and spawner, adding those interior pieces to both. There is also now an "Insert" attachment point for use inserting those pieces. As for the doors being turned into Doors, either Mandrac'll have to learn how to do animation, or he will have to send over to me the frame and door models and I could do it.
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  • That's good news. I had a spirited go at wiring the doors up for hydraulic sliding usage yesterday - the detailing on the panels makes it pretty hard to create sliders that actually open. Managed swing doors but they looked lame and had to be no-collided with everything as the door model is slightly too large to comfortably fit in the gap. I look forward to the weekly update!
  • How do we get changes that are uploaded in between the weekly updates? ah, 'guess I'll wait, then.
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  • [QUOTE=Stevie-C;35875164]How do we get changes that are uploaded in between the weekly updates?[/QUOTE] By either having access to the dev svn or asking for a manual update (I can manually trigger the action that syncs the svn's).