• Breaking Bad / Better Call Saul
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[sp]Truth be told now, I'm scared about what happens to Kim next. She's such a great character. It's worrying to think what happened to her between Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad.[/sp]
Kind of ironic how Chuck [sp]said that everyone around Jimmy gets hurt, yet Chuck ends up killing off his last two real pieces of human interaction, and ends up suffering more because of it to the point where he (may have) killed himself.[/sp]
How can you possibly hate Chuck and not have atleast a bit sympathy for him. This show doesn't have a single black&white character that I can recall of. There are no 'bad' guys or just 'good' guys besides some very small minor characters that barely got any depth. The characters in the show have their reasons and backstories for why they act the way they act, just like, you know, real life. I bet you BCS could show a flashback scene of Don Eladio's childhood where he's being extremely abused and traumatized and you'll feel bad for him.
Almost all characters acknowledge that they did or do fucked up shit. I can't remember a single time that Chuck did this.
I'll say it again, Chuck's actor has been the best in the show for the last two seasons.
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;52387252]That courtroom scene from Chicanery was mind blowingly good as far as actimg goes.[/QUOTE] That scene was fucking awesome, his Not a Real Lawyer argument with Jimmy is my favourite hands down though. Besides Chuck, my favourite scene all over has been the Scam Montage from Season One. Makes me laugh so much. [sp]"Sir, sir, can you help me, tell me, are these todays numbers?"[/sp]
Fuck Chuck [sp]Even his suicide was just a shallow attempt to get people to feel sorry for him and make Jimmy feel like shit. "oh look, my poor mentally ill brother, killed by accident in a crazed fit of lunacy". What an asshole. Loved the foreshadowing with the lantern in the flashback intro[/sp]
chuck is mentally ill dude. bit rough hey
[QUOTE=Birdman101;52388111]Fuck Chuck [sp]Even his suicide was just a shallow attempt to get people to feel sorry for him and make Jimmy feel like shit. "oh look, my poor mentally ill brother, killed by accident in a crazed fit of lunacy". What an asshole. Loved the foreshadowing with the lantern in the flashback intro[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp] Of course he was mad at Jimmy but the point was that he'd lost his purpose in life. He devoted his whole life to being an upstanding lawyer and without that, he saw no reason to go on. [/sp]
the season finale placed 7th on the monday night ratings, just behind "Teen Mom" and "Baseketball Wives" [t]https://i.redd.it/fb9pv4ze305z.png[/t]
[sp] I saw it coming right when they used Chuck's lanterns as evidence in Chicanery. But suicide? That I didn't see coming. Chuck is too egoistical to snuff out the only light that matters — himself. Chuck trying his hardest to ensure that nobody finds out that he killed himself by making it look like an accident. Absolutely perfect character arc! [/sp]
[QUOTE=Swiket;52388454]the season finale placed 7th on the monday night ratings, just behind "Teen Mom" and "Baseketball Wives" [t]https://i.redd.it/fb9pv4ze305z.png[/t][/QUOTE] I didn't know they stacked shit that high. [sp]Although WWE is my infrequent guilty pleasure, I enjoy the videogames[/sp]
I managed to watch until a little way through the third season of breaking bad, and got a little fatigued on it. as someone that tends to get bored of shows fairly easily, even if they're really fantastic, is it worth sticking out? I like the characters and style, but some bits feel so long
[QUOTE=timbered.plum;52389958]I managed to watch until a little way through the third season of breaking bad, and got a little fatigued on it. as someone that tends to get bored of shows fairly easily, even if they're really fantastic, is it worth sticking out? I like the characters and style, but some bits feel so long[/QUOTE] I don't know what else can be said about how good the show is, but for me at least I'm very wary of people overhyping things since I end up not liking most shows and movies. Breaking Bad is the one show where none of the praise is exaggerated in my opinion, it's truly brilliant like everyone says.
awesome, just wanted to confirm from some people who really care about the show, i'll definitely try to finish it
[QUOTE=Spacewolf;52390766]I don't know what else can be said about how good the show is, but for me at least I'm very wary of people overhyping things since I end up not liking most shows and movies. Breaking Bad is the one show where none of the praise is exaggerated in my opinion, it's truly brilliant like everyone says.[/QUOTE] Yep, totally agree how people overhype things. Due to the hype on the internet I was weary of how good Breaking Bad would be. I ended up loving it. Same goes for BCS, it's a great show. It has it's slow moments for sure, but they end up pacing out the episodes better in the end.
[QUOTE]Due to the hype on the internet I was weary of how good Breaking Bad would be. I ended up loving it.[/QUOTE] Yeah avoided it for a long time and then just binged most of it and had to patiently await for new stuff. Breaking Bad is also awful to rewatch because it has so many memorable moments. I tend to wait till I forget most of a show to really enjoy a rewatch and with most shows a year is enough but for BB it's still way too early.
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;52390963]It might be a little unpopular to say, but even though I think the first three seasons of Breaking Bad are really good, they can be a bit hard to rewatch at times, particularly the first little bit of season two after [sp] Tuco dies, but only because it almost feels like two leftover episodes from season one, but that's just my opinion. [/sp] There's a lot of character development, but I think the only ones that truly stood out to me were "Peekaboo" and "4 Days Out", both of which are fantastic and some of the best the series has to offer.[/QUOTE] The ending of "Over" in season 2 deserves special mention just for how it ends. Never fails to give me goosebumps.
So I looked at what Peter Gould did besides Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, and it's basically nothing? How come?
[QUOTE=halfer;52393848]So I looked at what Peter Gould did besides Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, and it's basically nothing? How come?[/QUOTE] Yeah that's weird. How'd he even land the job with so little past work?
I had a dream a few nights ago where the new episode of Better Call Saul aired that ended with [sp]Irene falling off a stepladder and breaking her hip, and then it's revealed that Chuck survived his suicide. Except he looked like a piece of bacon.[/sp]
[QUOTE=TectoImprov;52395756]I had a dream a few nights ago where the new episode of Better Call Saul aired that ended with [sp]Irene falling off a stepladder and breaking her hip, and then it's revealed that Chuck survived his suicide. Except he looked like a piece of bacon.[/sp][/QUOTE] Imagine if it was true :tinfoil:
Where the fuck is Michael McKean's Emmy?
Took me a while to watch these last two episodes because I watch them with my brother and we have somewhat conflicting work schedules, but I saw the finale today, and I'm just blown away by how good this season has turned out. I think what I love most is how [sp]human every character is.[/sp] [sp]I never really liked Howard that much but seeing him at the end of his rope, paying out way more than he can afford to Chuck after watching him transform from a man he deeply respects into a vindictive liability to the firm was something else. I think Howard is a bit of a bad dude in that he's a rich lawyer from a big firm that is fine being quite ruthless to earn a buck while simultaneously not treating his underlings very well (with Kim being a prize pupil but still being underappreciated), but apart from that he was just as decent a person as anyone else.[/sp] Then you've got Chuck himself, and like everybody has said, major props to Michael McKean, especially in this series. [sp]I've felt plenty of anger for Chuck and the things he's done to everyone around him, but I can't help but feel so incredibly sorry for him. I've seen posts on reddit that sum up all the bad things he's done, like not telling Jimmy that their mother called for him in her final moments, and that is some seriously nasty stuff, but all of his 'malice' comes from his flaws. He's so blatantly, obtusely prideful that it's almost painful to watch. He clearly has a deep respect for 'the law' or much rather, he holds a lot of affection for this ideal of the law, and this image of himself as some esteemed officer of the court and keen legal mind. But that image is not what he really is. In that way he reminds me a lot of Walt, and how he thought himself this consummate professional, someone who bought entirely into the principals of the scientific method. There was no such thing as soul, no art to chemistry. He told himself that he was providing for his family by doing criminal acts and that it was as simple as that. Gus knew differently. He even tells him I think that 'this careful man you describe is not who you are', because the truth was that Walt was breaking bad to feel alive and that lead him into being reckless and impulsive. Chuck is similar in a lot of ways. Having a professional witness observe a breaking and entering is maybe an ironclad move in a courtroom, on paper, but staying up late into the night with a hired private eye on the off chance that you catch your brother breaking in is not something that any rational mind would do. He was paranoid, and clearly mentally ill, but I think his biggest issue was that he couldn't communicate properly due to his crushing self image and pride. We see that he had an opportunity to maybe patch things up with his ex-wife in the dinner flashback, but rather than be honest and carefully explain what was going on in his life, he created an elaborate ruse to pretend that he wasn't suffering the way he was, and that inevitably backfired. I think he may even hold some contempt for Jimmy for being right about that situation as well, further proof that despite his own professional success, Jimmy will always understand people better than he can. Chuck's final scene with Jimmy and his ensuing meltdown were really grim to watch, because that could have been a major breakthrough for the both of them and their relationship, but it didn't happen that way. I think if Chuck hadn't just been dealt out of the firm, he might have been able to finally communicate honestly with Jimmy, but that's not what happened. He was in pain because of the damage he caused to his partner, and how he'd isolated himself, and that made him lash out at Jimmy in maybe the worst way. I think treating Jimmy like that was the final push over the edge. [/sp] Sorry if I went on too much, there was just so much to unpack from this series and I wanted to see if people shared my interpretations.
Season 4 has been ordered.
see you guys next year
[QUOTE=Pingu1;52419120]Just finished Breaking Bad, I missed it already. At first It was hard to take it a bit serious during SE01 since i've first re-watched Malcom in the middle completly, then I started to watch BB for the first time. Im a bit sad that I was really late, but I am glad i've finally watched it and completed it. Guess it's time for Better call Saul now.[/QUOTE] I envy you man, that first time watching Breaking Bad is a great experience
I've always been a huge fan of such kinds of films! This series is one of the best example
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