• Mass Effect Megathread: DING DONG BANNU edition
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[QUOTE=WeekendWarrior;34819318][QUOTE=Canuhearme?;34819232][sp]A living Prothean, one of the biggest reveals in the game, is nothing more then DLC bait.[/sp][/QUOTE] Fucking, [I]Bioware[/I].[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/BmsXw.png[/IMG] Please look at the dates. Seriously, how do [B][I]some[/I][/B] people realize this now and not earlier? I tried to encourage everyone to read the leaked scripts as they will open your eyes how Bioware/EA is trying to rip us off. Can someone make me feel less of a scumbag? Last year we were just haters, now it's mainstream to hate Bioware. Credit to the pioneers who saw the truth already last year. We're no hipsters, we're no arrogant cunts, just crusaders.
[QUOTE=mercurius;34819476] Seriously, how do [B][I]some[/I][/B] people realize this now and not earlier? I tried to encourage everyone to read the leaked scripts as they will open your eyes how Bioware/EA is trying to rip us off. Can someone make me feel less of a scumbag? Last year we were just haters, now it's mainstream to hate Bioware. Credit to the pioneers who saw the truth already last year. We're no hipsters, we're no arrogant cunts, just crusaders.[/QUOTE] The piece I latched onto from the leak that nobody really seemed to be bothered by was the line "Placeholder for the Sur'kesh DLC option that lets the councillor live". I mean seriously? Come on.
[QUOTE=Goldenboy;34819545]The piece I latched onto from the leak that nobody really seemed to be bothered by was the line "Placeholder for the Sur'kesh DLC option that lets the councillor live". I mean seriously? Come on.[/QUOTE] That was what Bioware said and DX_V and me were both replying: "That's just damage control." They tried to save what they could and keep the aftershocks as low as possible. Everything came true and that EDI / Joker dialogue from the voice cast teaser fits 1:1 the text from the leaked plot table.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;34819232][sp]The statues on Ilos and every vision you see in ME1 are false because they want to find a reason to explain the Protheans are Collectors "reveal" they made.[/sp] [sp]Everything done in ME2 is pretty much worthless, none of the characters besides those from ME1 are coming back as anything more then a cameo. Saved the Base or destroyed it? TIM goes evil either way. Destroyed or kept the Genophage? Someone magically comes up with a new cure. Begged the Quarians not to go to war while destroying the Heretics, or did the opposite? They still attack and the Geth are as strong as ever.[/sp] [sp]A living Prothean, one of the biggest reveals in the game, is nothing more then DLC bait.[/sp][/QUOTE] What the flying christ, so they took one of the selling points of the game (Decisions that actually impacts the fucking storyline in the long term) and threw that shit out of the window just for more cash? Go die EA, leave Bioware alone and let them do their god damn work. Unless that's Bioware which I doubt since Bioware is coolbro status.
[QUOTE=mercurius;34819575]That was what Bioware said and DX_V and me were just: "That's just damage control." They tried to save what they could and keep the aftershocks as low as possible. Everything came true and that EDI / Joker dialogue from the leak fits 1:1 the text from the leaked plot table.[/QUOTE] BioWare are clearly to blame for elements of the storyline that seem to be pandering to fans; primarily the dialogue you mentioned, as well as new romance options, along with some questionable plot decisions. However I'd imagine that the huge amounts of content that seem to be getting sliced out and sold separately are solely the fault of EA.
[QUOTE=mercurius;34819575]That was what Bioware said and DX_V and me were both replying: "That's just damage control." They tried to save what they could and keep the aftershocks as low as possible. Everything came true and that EDI / Joker dialogue from the voice cast teaser fits 1:1 the text from the leaked plot table.[/QUOTE] That actually makes me think of the squad setup and how bioware has handled it. [sp]They actually had officially announced the entire ME3 squad save for the prothean DLC and EDI since last spring, so they've had to go on for about a year saying "Oh dont worry guys, those other characters are in the game, just trust us" [/sp] Damage control sounds about right.
[QUOTE=Goldenboy;34819613]BioWare are clearly to blame for elements of the storyline that seem to be pandering to fans; primarily the dialogue you mentioned, as well as new romance options, along with some questionable plot decisions. However I'd imagine that the huge amounts of content that seem to be getting sliced out and sold separately are solely the fault of EA.[/QUOTE] Nah the new squadmate is the most irrelevant character according to the leak and can't even help you with the plot. It's just a "muscle" or fighter character not a thinker like Mordin. The DLC itself is only about ~600 MB big like the Zaeed one. After one mission the character will probably start rotting on your ship due to the limited dialogue options.
Wait a second...I've seen this all before somewhere... [IMG]http://i43.tinypic.com/9ituuv.png[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/KymQb.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/whQlV.jpg[/IMG]
what am i the only person in the world who isnt freaking out over dlc?
[QUOTE=mercurius;34819752][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/KymQb.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/whQlV.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] I was about to say, time to sequester myself away with enough food and water to last a few week, block any internet access save for Netflix and certain video games and batten down the hatches. Glad to see I can get a few more days of fresh air. wait a second that's not a false alarm acknowledgement
[QUOTE=dumbidiotretard;34819753]what am i the only person in the world who isnt freaking out over dlc?[/QUOTE] I'm not. If I want it I'll get it, I'm not going to bitch about how it should have been in the game in the first place I'll just not buy it. I frankly don't give a shit if they made it during development, if its worth the cost I'll probably get it if I can.
[QUOTE=darkrei9n;34819786]I'm not. If I want it I'll get it, I'm not going to bitch about how it should have been in the game in the first place I'll just not buy it. I frankly don't give a shit if they made it during development, if its worth the cost I'll probably get it if I can.[/QUOTE] Lets say the Krogan genophage plotline was removed during development to be sold as Day One DLC. Would you feel the same way then?
Man I understand your complaints as much as anyone, it's moderately annoying that the story quality has fallen like this since the first game, but for the love of fuck stop trying to discourage other people from enjoying the game. Don't buy it and go write yourselves a fanfic the way you want it, maybe you'll feel better.
[QUOTE=ijyt;34819862]Man I understand your complaints as much as anyone, it's moderately annoying that the story quality has fallen like this since the first game, but for the love of fuck stop trying to discourage other people from enjoying the game. Don't buy it and go write yourselves a fanfic the way you want it, maybe you'll feel better.[/QUOTE] This isn't about story quality; the discussion is about the decision to remove a significant plot point from the base game, in order to make an extra $10 off consumers. CAN they do it? Absolutely. SHOULD they be doing it? No, absolutely not. And if developers make money off the practice, then there's no end to it.
I do not regret cheating my multiplayer demo. Even with the packs costing me 1 credit each, I had to buy THIRTY TWO veteran packs to get the salarian infiltrator.
[QUOTE=Goldenboy;34819810]Lets say the Krogan genophage plotline was removed during development to be sold as Day One DLC. Would you feel the same way then?[/QUOTE] was it? no
This thread went from awesome to stupid in a matter of a couple hours. It's OPTIONAL DLC! If you don't like it, DON'T BUY IT! [editline]22nd February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Goldenboy;34819810]Lets say the Krogan genophage plotline was removed during development to be sold as Day One DLC. Would you feel the same way then?[/QUOTE] Are you fucking kidding me? How are you going to compare plot lines to [U][I][B]OPTIONAL CHARACTER DLC!?[/B][/I][/U] Jeez, the stupid things people whine about.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v62pM93iS4A[/media] Watch 2:00 onwards. That's a clever idea, I dunno why more devs don't do this...
The optional DLC is of a gimmicky character with few lines of dialogue. Comparing it to entire plotlines is just so fucking asinine I can barely describe it.
[QUOTE=Goldenboy;34819897]This isn't about story quality; the discussion is about the decision to remove a significant plot point from the base game, in order to make an extra $10 off consumers. CAN they do it? Absolutely. SHOULD they be doing it? No, absolutely not. And if developers make money off the practice, then there's no end to it.[/QUOTE] Hmm, I don't recall bonus characters in ME2 being a significant plot point from the the base game, this is the exact same thing. You are basing your opinion off of assumptions.
[QUOTE=Goldenboy;34819897]This isn't about story quality; the discussion is about the decision to remove a significant plot point from the base game, in order to make an extra $10 off consumers. CAN they do it? Absolutely. SHOULD they be doing it? No, absolutely not. And if developers make money off the practice, then there's no end to it.[/QUOTE] Removing plot points seems like a story quality issue to me, but I digress. I haven't read the script leaks, and I don't plan to, so is this [sp]"Prothean"[/sp] character really that important, or are they another Zaeed/Kasumi? Are they really a [sp]Prothean[/sp]? In ME2 it was mentioned that the Collectors were highly altered and no longer resembled their ancestors, like in the beacon visions in ME1, so it might not really be what it's claimed to be. Though if the script specifically states that in fact, it is, then surely it's better for such canon-altering DLC to be just that, optional DLC?
[QUOTE=Jackald;34819939][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v62pM93iS4A[/media] Watch 2:00 onwards. That's a clever idea, I dunno why more devs don't do this...[/QUOTE] That is awesome, lots of people were complaining that Bioware was too lazy or didn't care enough to make a Femshep Cover. Nice to see they actually did.
Bioware took content from the finished game, pulled it out, and charged extra for it. What's there not to get? It's a character who should've been vital to Mass effect's lore [sp]ignore all the ass pulls surrounding it [/sp] and they made it into an optional gimmick to milk the franchise.
[QUOTE=ijyt;34819979]Removing plot points seems like a story quality issue to me, but I digress. I haven't read the script leaks, and I don't plan to, so is this [sp]"Prothean"[/sp] character really that important, or are they another Zaeed/Kasumi? Are they really a [sp]Prothean[/sp]? In ME2 it was mentioned that the Collectors were highly altered and no longer resembled their ancestors, like in the beacon visions in ME1, so it might not really be what it's claimed to be. Though if the script specifically states that in fact, it is, then surely it's better for such canon-altering DLC to be just that, optional DLC?[/QUOTE] afaik they're just another zaeed/kasumi
[QUOTE=Dumb Dog;34819997]Bioware took content from the finished game, pulled it out, and charged extra for it. What's there not to get? It's a character who should've been vital to Mass effect's lore [sp]ignore all the ass pulls surrounding it [/sp] and they made it into an optional gimmick to milk the franchise.[/QUOTE] The character was gimmicky in the first place. Even if it was ripped from the game, it's not like you're missing much anyways. Plus unless there's oodles of dialogue that they're not going to use, I doubt the character's particularly expansive to begin with.
[QUOTE=dumbidiotretard;34820016]afaik they're just another zaeed/kasumi[/QUOTE] Yeah, but you got Zaeed with any purchase, and kasumi was just a thief. This character is SIGNIFICANTLY more important to the Mass Effect lore and can only be accessed by paying $10 after launch or buying the collector's edition.
I think it's the fact that such a major and mysterious race in Mass Effect Lore has been diminished to 'DLC' is the problem.
[QUOTE=mercurius;34815829]I just swapped Rarity_UltraRare and Rarity_Rare with Rarity_Common and vice versa. Now I will be able to everything for 1 credits and only get the good stuff. Will post my own mod soon if I get both Asari and can confirm it working. Seriously I never saw Asari Vnaguard ever.[/QUOTE] That's because they're locked for the demo. One of the universal things gibbed did was unlock them. However, it's also an autoflag for ding dong bannu.
[QUOTE=Thom12255;34820081]I think it's the fact that such a major and mysterious race in Mass Effect Lore has been diminished to 'DLC' is the problem.[/QUOTE] look on the other side of that coin you could say that zaeed and kasumi were worthless dlc's because they had nothing intersting about them and this is the answer to that
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