• Fallout Series Thread V10: Viva New Vegas
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[QUOTE=Insane516;34985085]sure it looks better and all, but a nuclear radioactive infested airspace is supposed to have that green hue, considering its THE LAND OF A NUCLEAR DISASTER now it looks all crisp, clean, like there never was a nuclear apocalypse... my immersion :suicide:[/QUOTE] It's been 200+ years since the bombs fell, most of that radiation should have worn off by now
[QUOTE=Rents;34993295]Where can I get and what is FOMM and where does it save those files?[/QUOTE] The Nexus, Fallout Mod Manager, and they'll be in Fallout 3/Data. If they're not there the game can't load them.
[QUOTE=TestECull;34995658]The Nexus, Fallout Mod Manager, and they'll be in Fallout 3/Data. If they're not there the game can't load them.[/QUOTE] Oh wait, I found a file called "READ ME OR THIS WONT WORK.txt" in there I think I found the problem.
[QUOTE=Insane516;34985085]sure it looks better and all, but a nuclear radioactive infested airspace is supposed to have that green hue, considering its THE LAND OF A NUCLEAR DISASTER now it looks all crisp, clean, like there never was a nuclear apocalypse... my immersion :suicide:[/QUOTE] Gosh look at all this green hue and rubble. [IMG]http://www.pcf.city.hiroshima.jp/kids/KPSH_E/hiroshima_e/sadako_e/subcontents_e/images_e/17_1.jpg[/IMG] [sp]hiroshima[/sp]
[QUOTE=Rents;34995782]Oh wait, I found a file called "READ ME OR THIS WONT WORK.txt" in there I think I found the problem.[/QUOTE] I'm an idiot this was entirely the problem.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;34995914]Gosh look at all this green hue and rubble. [sp]hiroshima[/sp][/QUOTE] The Hiroshima example doesn't really apply because post-war Japan had a central government, international aid, and only had a single bomb dropped on it. But that's not the point. Fallout 3 should not anywhere near as green as it is. It's just bad design, nothing more.
[QUOTE=Insane516;34985085]sure it looks better and all, but a nuclear radioactive infested airspace is supposed to have that green hue, considering its THE LAND OF A NUCLEAR DISASTER now it looks all crisp, clean, like there never was a nuclear apocalypse... my immersion :suicide:[/QUOTE] I agree with him, because iirc [sp] the town with the green hue had radiation things opened by the legion [/sp] [editline]4th March 2012[/editline] I haven't played the game in a while so correct me if I'm wrong
[QUOTE=TestECull;34993138]DC's muties were produced independantly of West Coast's, using a different strain of FEV in Vault 87.[/QUOTE] The creator of Fallout said FEV in DC was, "very far fetched". In my words its fucking stupid, they never justify any of it. why is it in DC? why is it in a Vault? hell why did Vault Tech want FEV as one of their experiments when all they do are social experiments in the first place. They give some really vague reasons but nothing that makes sense. I don't mind the BOS or Enclave in DC for the most part, but FEV? that's dumb, considering it was supposed to be an ISOLATED experiment, that's why they started testing it at Mariposa, because its isolated. Who thought it was a good idea to do FEV experiments next to a very populated city? [editline]4th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=bunnyspy1;34996976]I agree with him, because iirc [sp] the town with the green hue had radiation things opened by the legion [/sp] [editline]4th March 2012[/editline] I haven't played the game in a while so correct me if I'm wrong[/QUOTE] Since it just happened it's not that big of a deal, its a nice visual cue that you are in an irradiated area, the problem is in DC you aren't constantly taking in rads, it's been 200 years since the last nuke fell yet everything looks as if its only been a couple years.
Ok, now my game freezes when choose a new perk, I've disabled all my mods and it still does it, this is getting ridiculous. [editline]5th March 2012[/editline] I managed to fix it by enabling all my mods again(?) [editline]5th March 2012[/editline] [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5636656/fallout.png[/img] Ok, seriously?
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;34997138]The creator of Fallout said FEV in DC was, "very far fetched". In my words its fucking stupid, they never justify any of it. why is it in DC? why is it in a Vault? hell why did Vault Tech want FEV as one of their experiments when all they do are social experiments in the first place. They give some really vague reasons but nothing that makes sense. I don't mind the BOS or Enclave in DC for the most part, but FEV? that's dumb, considering it was supposed to be an ISOLATED experiment, that's why they started testing it at Mariposa, because its isolated. Who thought it was a good idea to do FEV experiments next to a very populated city? [editline]4th March 2012[/editline] Since it just happened it's not that big of a deal, its a nice visual cue that you are in an irradiated area, the problem is in DC you aren't constantly taking in rads, it's been 200 years since the last nuke fell yet everything looks as if its only been a couple years.[/QUOTE] I swear, Fallout 3 must have killed your family and raped your dog for you to bash it this much.
It burned down my sister and raped my church. [editline]4th March 2012[/editline] To be honest I don't really hate Fallout 3, thats a pretty strong word, its just very disappointing, and it's just easy for me to get too passionate about things. That and it's pretty easy to bash, Fallout 3 is like Fridge Logic The Video Game.
Not angry, just disappointed. The game contains radioactive mutants and aliens, it's not that much of a stretch to just say Vault-Tec wanted some FEV for research reasons (And stuff gets shipped around)
[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;34999200]Not angry, just disappointed. The game contains radioactive mutants and aliens, it's not that much of a stretch to just say Vault-Tec wanted some FEV for research reasons (And stuff gets shipped around)[/QUOTE] It's not a stretch, no. In fact, it would make sense for the Pre-War government to distribute FEV around the country. The problem is, it directly defies established canon. Fallout 3 does a lot of that. From FEV, to the survival of the Enclave, to the length of the Sino-American War, it's all mixed up.
I guess it's not a stretch, but canon says otherwise.
God I can't play Fallout 3 or New Vegas anymore I could put up with F3 when it came out, and New Vegas improved pretty much everything so that was good. But now, it just gives me the shits. The engine just feels so god damn awful, it's like the games were aged terribly before they were even released. Which is disappointing, because apart from how the game actually "feels", it was quite good.
I like to look at Fallout 3 like I look at tactics. Fun to play but...semi cannon. Obviously some things in it can be true but there may be things that aren't. Same thing goes with 3. Let's just hope We don't ever get another game in any proximity to DC so the events of 3 will never be confirmed. Eventually Bethesda may just retcon/handwave parts of their own game like they do all the time anyways.
[QUOTE=Jebus;34999475]God I can't play Fallout 3 or New Vegas anymore I could put up with F3 when it came out, and New Vegas improved pretty much everything so that was good. But now, it just gives me the shits. The engine just feels so god damn awful, it's like the games were aged terribly before they were even released. Which is disappointing, because apart from how the game actually "feels", it was quite good.[/QUOTE] I'm still able to play NV, and F3 with an insane amount of mods, but I do agree that the engine is atrocious.
reinstalling New Vegas, it's been too long
Yo guys. That legion overhaul mod I mentioned a few pages back, [I]Caesar's New Regime[/I], was released earlier today as a beta. [URL="http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=45557"]It's looking sweet![/URL]
Because this page is probably going to be filled with "Fallout 3 fucked up the cannon", I might as well post this: Fallout 3 really wasn't meant to continue the cannon of the first two. It was made because Bethesda saw potential in the title, so they grabbed it while they could and they made their own thing. Its as simple as that. Sure, they could have made it more lore friendly, but at the end of the day its still a fun game and it still made a profit.
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I don't hate fallout 3, I just don't think it's a Fallout game. Oh and the "Put more radiation in water purification project" was the dumbest thing I have seen.
[QUOTE=Overwatch 7;35001683]Yo guys. That legion overhaul mod I mentioned a few pages back, [I]Caesar's New Regime[/I], was released earlier today as a beta. [URL="http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=45557"]It's looking sweet![/URL][/QUOTE] [thumb]http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/downloads/images/45557-5-1330924346.jpg[/thumb] the fuck is up with that guy's nips [thumb]http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/downloads/images/45557-4-1330905349.jpg[/thumb] whoah shit guys we got a serious fuckin contender here
[QUOTE=Magmacow358;35001924]Because this page is probably going to be filled with "Fallout 3 fucked up the cannon", I might as well post this: Fallout 3 really wasn't meant to continue the cannon of the first two. It was made because Bethesda saw potential in the title, so they grabbed it while they could and they made their own thing. Its as simple as that. Sure, they could have made it more lore friendly, but at the end of the day its still a fun game and it still made a profit.[/QUOTE] If Bethesda had no interest in pleasing the fans of the originals then they had no business making Fallout 3, they should have just done an original Post Apocalyptic game. [editline]5th March 2012[/editline] Also that Legion mod looks awful.
[QUOTE=mchapra;35002538]I don't hate fallout 3, I just don't think it's a Fallout game.[/quote] You're welcome to think that, but you're also welcome to be wrong. It [i]is[/i] a Fallout game, it [i]is[/i] considered canon, flaws and all. [quote]Oh and the "Put more radiation in water purification project" was the dumbest thing I have seen.[/QUOTE] That was FEV, not radiation. [editline]5th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;35003045]If Bethesda had no interest in pleasing the fans of the originals then they had no business making Fallout 3, they should have just done an original Post Apocalyptic game. [/quote] Fanservice would have seen the franchise die off. The hardcore Fallout 1/2 fans just aren't numerous to justify the costs involved in making more games. They had to bring the series to a different bunch of players, and they did that well. [quote] Also that Legion mod looks awful.[/QUOTE] I agree 100% on this, though.
Actually, I think we should all listen to New Vegas's DLC and [I]Let Go[/I] of Fallout 1 and 2. It's Bethesda's game now and they can take it in whatever direction they wish. The originals will always be great, and we'll always remember them, but their time has passed and hoping for a game that perfectly recreates the spirit of them and respects the lore in all possible ways is just too much. There will always be something Fallout 1 and 2 do better, but nitpicking about it will not improve the games we get in any way. Disagree with me all you want, but we'll never be able to truly appreciate current and future fallout games if we endlessly compare them to the originals. You have to [I]let go[/I].
i want more bolt actions and shit in new vegas
[QUOTE=Darth Hater;35003520]Actually, I think we should all listen to New Vegas's DLC and Let Go of Fallout 1 and 2. It's Bethesda's game now and they can take it in whatever direction they wish. The originals will always be great, and we'll always remember them, but their time has passed and hoping for a game that perfectly recreates the spirit of them and respects the lore in all possible ways is just too much. There will always be something Fallout 1 and 2 do better, but nitpicking about it will not improve the games we get in any way. Disagree with me all you want, but we'll never be able to truly appreciate current and future fallout games if we endlessly compare them to the originals. You have to let go.[/QUOTE] I don't want Bethesda to recreate them, I just want Bethesda to to try to care about the story telling and RPG side of things, and try to do new things, not just with series, but with gameplay, not just reuse the same stale formula they always use, and not just reuse plot elements and factions from the first 2 game either. I think that's my problem with the game, it almost felt like a ripoff of the first 2 games. I know Bethesda can make a great Fallout game in the same spirit of the originals, the thing is they just don't care, they would rather cater to their own audience, which is fine, but not when you are making a game created by other people that already has a built in audience, an audience that is much bigger then you guys seem to let on, I mean it's not Elder Scrolls huge but its big enough to still have a very active modding community.
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;35003941]I don't want Bethesda to recreate them, I just want Bethesda to to try to care about the story telling and RPG side of things, and try to do new things, not just with series, but with gameplay, not just reuse the same stale formula they always use, and not just reuse plot elements and factions from the first 2 game either. I think that's my problem with the game, it almost felt like a ripoff of the first 2 games.[/quote] The factions are 50% of what makes a Fallout game a Fallout game. The Enclave is the only one that's more or less doneskies, having had both their east and west cost bases destroyed, but everyone else is still running just fine. NCR, BoS, super mutants, raiders, wastelanders, etc etc. Without these factions you've just got a generic post apocalyptic 50's-futuristic shooter. [quote]I know Bethesda can make a great Fallout game in the same spirit of the originals[/quote] They already did. [quote] I mean it's not Elder Scrolls huge but its big enough to still have a very active modding community.[/QUOTE] The amount of mods that came out for New Vegas between launch and Dead Money hitting the 360 outnumber the amount of mods for Fallout 1 and 2 combined. The audience of the originals just isn't large enough to financially support making further games, which is why Bethesda went the way they did.
how could it be a generic post apocalyptic 50's futuristic shooter? that implies that there are a lot of those around. [editline]5th March 2012[/editline] Besides it is pretty damn generic, nothing new or exciting about it.
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