• Why the tech of the Halo Universe is a step backward.
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I've played both Halo and Mass Effect. Master Chief is all around badass, [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daJ7r8akixI&feature=related] but Shepard slaps a bitch in his game and keeps it real[/url]. It's a tough choice.
'Slap' isn't exactly the word I'd use, but I can see your point.
[QUOTE=lavacano;27209006]OK. I read the first four pages and there's discussion on how weapons of the future would work, from various video games. I skip to page 19 and it's "MASTUR CHEEF IS BETTAR" "NO SHEPERD IS" "UR GAY" "UR DUM". :frog:[/QUOTE] Why does every game always seem to have a sheperd in it. Mass effect. Halo. Modern warfare 2. so many more
[QUOTE=sltungle;27210059]'Slap' isn't exactly the word I'd use, but I can see your point.[/QUOTE] Saying "Shepard punches a bitch." doesn't have that same ring as "Shepard slaps a bitch."
[QUOTE=Slacks3000;27210125]Saying "Shepard punches a bitch." doesn't have that same ring as "Shepard slaps a bitch."[/QUOTE] "Shepard breaks dat horse liek a bawss" [editline]5th January 2011[/editline] Also this thread is a stereotypical nerd thread. 'NO <MY FAVORiTE VIDEO GAME CHARACTER> IS BETTER THAN <OPPOSITIONS FAVORITE VIDEO GAME CHARACTER> <EXPLETIVE> SO THERE'
[QUOTE=froztshock;27205106]Don't forget Larry Niven. [editline]4th January 2011[/editline] [img_thumb]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Vsb1A6sSm24/S4G4RWX-_SI/AAAAAAAAAJ8/xyi1ikSbg-M/s320/ringworld.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Actually I'm told both derive ideas from the same scientist who wrote some book at some point in the past, except niven is a cocksucker with only crazy cultists to dollow him and bungie actually makes good stories that become popular. I also didn't see when drawing inspiration from things you think are cool was illegal, I must have missed that law.
Do you ever see glassings in the game? Maybe that's a thing for the new devs to do. [editline]5th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Fire Kracker;27207692]i always hated fighting with marines in halo 1 you only hear "frag out" and you see everything explode and then you die reloading right to the part where he said "Frag out" again[/QUOTE] Oh my god I hate the fucking checkpoint system in Halo games. It's really hard to type when my dog is on my lap. inb4 bestiality jokes. [editline]5th January 2011[/editline] Page 20 is popping up, and my posting isn't fixing it.
So this thread has gone from Tech to "Master cheif is awesome lolololol everyone fags lol" thread, Dammit for once could there be a thread that doesn't get raided by Fanboys and girls. (Maybe idiots too)
[QUOTE=Sirdrone536;27210770]So this thread has gone from Tech to "Master cheif is awesome lolololol everyone fags lol" thread, Dammit for once could there be a thread that doesn't get raided by Fanboys and [B]girls[/B]. (Maybe idiots too)[/QUOTE] wait what
Who mentioned mass effect or Shepard in the first place.
I like how the kids on the halo forums think that an A-10 thunderbolt that fires bullets that are as big as your head AND traveling at three times the speed of sound would not penetrate a wraith tank that can be decimated by a low-yield explosive.
Because they are some damn fanboys that want aliens to invade the earth and have humans rely on supersoldiers raised from kidnapped kids.
So which, Mass Effect, "real" or Halo universe has the most useful offensive, defensive and miscellaneous technology between and in them?
Halo seems to have the best tech for space battles and stuff, but on the ground it's what 50 years in the future will look like, not 500. If we don't count some of the strange weapon ranges and such. Mass Effect seems to have the best gear for infantry battles but that's all we've seen from the franchise. We can't really tell if they have any sort of armored warfare, in-atmosphere bombers et cetera. So yeah, ME for infantry combat, Halo for spess combat, real life for, uh, plausibility?
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;27206076]if we talked about how useful the guns are in games the guns in mass effect are a step down from guns too in a way small sand sized bullets, fired at meteor speeds would be short ranged(cuz how fast it'd burn out) and would probably only give welts and shit with the armor in mass effect and shielding(which like, protects from space shit as in mini meteors) but it's damn cool[/QUOTE]Incorrect, at the velocities they're going at they've got a lot more range than most modern firearms. We're talking relativistic velocities, 1% of light speed is approximately 3,000 kilometres [i]per second,[/i] anything going at even close to that speed is going to ruin someone's day, no matter how small. That's why, for example, space junk is such a threat to astronauts and satellites due to the speeds they often orbit at, though of course they don't orbit at relativistic velocities. The electronics in the gun also adjust the size and shape of the slug sheared off of the ammo block to compensate for range, atmospheric conditions and whatnot. [editline]5th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Zezibesh;27212136]Halo seems to have the best tech for space battles and stuff, but on the ground it's what 50 years in the future will look like, not 500. If we don't count some of the strange weapon ranges and such. Mass Effect seems to have the best gear for infantry battles but that's all we've seen from the franchise. We can't really tell if they have any sort of armored warfare, in-atmosphere bombers et cetera. So yeah, ME for infantry combat, Halo for spess combat, real life for, uh, plausibility?[/QUOTE]Apart from the Element Zero plot device substance, weapons technology in it is right where we're heading now i.e. propelling metallic slugs with magnetism at ludicrous velocities.
[QUOTE=imadaman;27211801]So which, Mass Effect, "real" or Halo universe has the most useful offensive, defensive and miscellaneous technology between and in them?[/QUOTE] Covenant's glassing weapon whatever that is called. [editline]5th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Sgt Doom;27212300]Apart from the Element Zero plot device substance, weapons technology in it is right where we're heading now i.e. propelling metallic slugs with magnetism at ludicrous velocities.[/QUOTE] Railguns, but isn't the recoil fucking horrid?
[QUOTE=broo20;27212325]Covenant's glassing weapon whatever that is called. [editline]5th January 2011[/editline] Railguns, but isn't the recoil fucking horrid?[/QUOTE]Might be, we haven't created anything even remotely man-portable yet; not gotten around to shrinking them.
Have you seen this? This is what I imagined it would be like [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evVEU-bR_9k[/media]
[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;27211623]I like how the kids on the halo forums think that an A-10 thunderbolt that fires bullets that are as big as your head AND traveling at three times the speed of sound would not penetrate a wraith tank that can be decimated by a low-yield explosive.[/QUOTE] B.net is the place where the idiots of the Halo community hang out, dont bother. How can they say that when the .50 on the warthog does a good job at killing a wraith with enough rounds. Its not like the UNSC dont have anything like the A10, they have the longswords and the skyhawk jumpjet which have pretty huge autocannons. Also a humans head isnt 30mm.
Why the tech of the Halo Universe is a step backward. you never actually said why its a step backward :v: or was the op an exerpt from the bungie thread
[QUOTE=Tunak Mk. II;27207209]Guardsmen probably couldn't, but Space Marines are way overpowered to the point that they are disqualified from discussion. You could say Superman could kill any other superhero, and you would be right, but a man with infinite strength, every power, and his only weakness being located trillions of miles away is guaranteed to win. Same applies for Space Marines.[/QUOTE] The lasgun would probably blow his head off. So yes, the guardsman would kill him. Most people also forget what guardsmen fight. The covenant found master chief to be a terrible foe, calling him a demon and other such names. The guard, well the guard fight demons from time to time, orks, traitor marines and other ctulhu esque critters which would probably make half of the covenant go insane. Likewise the humans of 40k are somewhat more evolved from baseline humans. On average they are stronger, faster the usual. [quote] The Space Marine's weakness is that they take honor before logic in any scenario ever. Instead of firing at a range or using dropships, Space Marines get in close with chainsaw swords and instead drop on the enemy's ships (and also the enemies themselves). [/quote] And this is different from Aribiters or spartans using arbiter weaponry charging into meelee combat how exactly? Also marines usually engage into meelee combat only if they can approach the target safely. That's why they are urban warfare specialists, not open field specialists. [quote] Wouldn't Chief be in an elite force? Looking at groups like the SAS in the present day, even a private in a special forces group has more command over an officer in the regular army. [/quote] Just as Shephard is N7 which seems to be a special branch of the human forces as well. So she still outranks MC :P Obviously a spartan is probably more advanced biologically than even a wh40k baseline human though most likely by not a terribly far margin. And some guard modifications probably come close -afriel strain comes to mind. Still the modifications done to him do not even scratch the surface of the complete genetic rewrite that space marines are subject to. [QUOTE=c0nk3r;27217057]Why the tech of the Halo Universe is a step backward. you never actually said why its a step backward :v:[/QUOTE] In some ways the weapons in halo are less effective than today's standard weaponry as well as some boneheaded design ideas for their vehicles. My only assumption for the warthog to be so open is in order to keep it as light as possible for easy transfer and even potential dismanting and reassembly.
[QUOTE=Stopper;27172143]I fucking hate it when people don't respect opinions.[/QUOTE] :irony:
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;27212136]Halo seems to have the best tech for space battles and stuff, but on the ground it's what 50 years in the future will look like, not 500. If we don't count some of the strange weapon ranges and such. Mass Effect seems to have the best gear for infantry battles but that's all we've seen from the franchise. We can't really tell if they have any sort of armored warfare, in-atmosphere bombers et cetera. So yeah, ME for infantry combat, Halo for spess combat, real life for, uh, plausibility?[/QUOTE] So tell us, how was it in the year 2552?
pretty sweet
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;27212136]Halo seems to have the best tech for space battles and stuff, but on the ground it's what 50 years in the future will look like, not 500. If we don't count some of the strange weapon ranges and such. Mass Effect seems to have the best gear for infantry battles but that's all we've seen from the franchise. We can't really tell if they have any sort of armored warfare, in-atmosphere bombers et cetera. So yeah, ME for infantry combat, Halo for spess combat, real life for, uh, plausibility?[/QUOTE] Let me remind you: [img]http://carnet-escale.chez-alice.fr/Impressions/Indien/Mombasa/mombasa_carte.gif[/img] The only area on Earth you see throughly is the Mombasa region, and even then, the tech is pretty futuristic. You're not even considering what types of metals the roads are made with or what type of material buildings are formed with, or even the methods that could go into creating them. You're also ignoring the technology in civilian vehicles, and the [i]fucking holograms everywhere[/i]. It's like back when BTTF was made, they expected flying cars in the year 2000. I'm not sure why you think we'll have modulating road panels or gigantic superstructures or blast doors and space elevators or inexpensive commercially available holograms and city-management AI systems in 50 years.
[QUOTE=yuki;27217967]Let me remind you: [img_thumb]http://carnet-escale.chez-alice.fr/Impressions/Indien/Mombasa/mombasa_carte.gif[/img_thumb] The only area on Earth you see throughly is the Mombasa region, and even then, the tech is pretty futuristic. You're not even considering what types of metals the roads are made with or what type of material buildings are formed with, or even the methods that could go into creating them. You're also ignoring the technology in civilian vehicles, and the [i]fucking holograms everywhere[/i]. It's like back when BTTF was made, they expected flying cars in the year 2000. I'm not sure why you think we'll have modulating road panels or gigantic superstructures or blast doors and space elevators or inexpensive commercially available holograms and city-management AI systems in 50 years.[/QUOTE] I was talking about the battles, actually. Everyone just seems to misinterpret the post.
[QUOTE=archangel125;27160345] 3. The Covenant don't know the meaning of 'camouflage'. [/quote] Well do we know how their homeworld(s) look(s) like?
[QUOTE=Cortana;27218157]Well do we know how their homeworld(s) look(s) like?[/QUOTE] They dont have a homeworld. The covenant isn't a race is an alliance of races from other planets. One planet was destroyed by a super nova the rest still exsist but they are all very different from each other.
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;27217786]pretty sweet[/QUOTE] Have a box.
[QUOTE=P1X3L N1NJA;27218309]They dont have a homeworld. The covenant isn't a race is an alliance of races from other planets. One planet was destroyed by a super nova the rest still exsist but they are all very different from each other.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I know they can't be all from one planet. What I wanted to say was: Maybe one race thought of for example a Spirit and painted it, so it can't be seen IN THE WORLD IT'S MEANT FOR. I bet they fight each other too Maybe there is everything pink where the covenant come from
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