• Why the tech of the Halo Universe is a step backward.
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[QUOTE=BmB;27244791]Because it doesn't. Didn't you even read the book? I could explain it to you but I'd basically be repeating the words in the book. And then afterwards everyone goes all derp only spartans can use it.[/QUOTE] bring up point get in argument too lazy to type out your side of battle gj
I can't imagine a suit being so impractical as to severely injure any normal person who tries to use it. I'd take the Crysis Nanosuit, or the HEV suit.
[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27245885]I can't imagine a suit being so impractical as to severely injure any normal person who tries to use it. I'd take the Crysis Nanosuit, or the HEV suit.[/QUOTE] It's not so much impractical as being simply too powerful for a normal human to use it.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;27245924]It's not so much impractical as being simply too powerful for a normal human to use it.[/QUOTE] And that is why only Spartans use it.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;27245924]It's not so much impractical as being simply too powerful for a normal human to use it.[/QUOTE] I'd call that impractical. If the UNSC had been intelligent about it, they could have equipped normal soldiers with the Mjolnir armor, instead of just Spartans, which would have greatly evened the odds against the Covenant. However, they had to go and make them specifically designed for Spartans.
[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27246045]I'd call that impractical. If the UNSC had been intelligent about it, they could have equipped normal soldiers with the Mjolnir armor, instead of just Spartans, which would have greatly evened the odds against the Covenant. However, they had to go and make them specifically designed for Spartans.[/QUOTE] By the time you make it possible for normal humans to wear it, the armor would be no different to ODST suits.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;27246177]By the time you make it possible for normal humans to wear it, the armor would be no different to ODST suits.[/QUOTE] I'm sure they could make suits as durable as Mjolnir armour, without all the "move as fast as you think" bullshit.
[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27246244]I'm sure they could make suits as durable as Mjolnir armour, without all the "move as fast as you think" bullshit.[/QUOTE] Again, that's pretty much ODST armor.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;27246321]Again, that's pretty much ODST armor.[/QUOTE] Um, except ODST armour doesn't have regenerating shields nearly as strong, they don't protect from fall damage, and they don't automatically heal health.
[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27244992]There's no point in arguing against what's canon.[/QUOTE] There's no point having the reading comprehension of a brick.
Arguing on the Internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.
Like 80% of people's designs for future technology are a step backward. And as far as space exploration goes, Halo is hardly the worst offender. AFAIK Halo makes the Metroid series look like the stone age.
[QUOTE=BmB;27246479]There's no point having the reading comprehension of a brick.[/QUOTE] Is it possible for you to post an argument without insulting someone? I was simply pointing out the fact that Bungie accepts the Fall of Reach as canon, and even the Halopedia states that Mjolnir armor injures normal humans. There is no point in arguing against what has been accepted as canon. And in case you're wondering, I have read your previous posts in this thread. [editline]6th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=lavacano;27246874]Arguing on the Internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.[/QUOTE] This I don't understand. Why is debating on the internet so different than debating in real life? The internet is a medium, just like TV or the Radio; it is a large form of communication and transferring information. Just because you, are arguing on the internet, that doesn't make your posts invalid. [editline]6th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Aredbomb;27246878]Like 80% of people's designs for future technology are a step backward. And as far as space exploration goes, Halo is hardly the worst offender. AFAIK Halo makes the Metroid series look like the stone age.[/QUOTE] How does Halo make the Metroid series look stone age? The technology in Metroid is obviously far more advanced than that of Halo.
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[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27246881]How does Halo make the Metroid series look stone age? The technology in Metroid is obviously far more advanced than that of Halo.[/QUOTE] The most powerful thing in the entire series is a essentially a heavily armored soldier that that carries a large, heavy-looking weapon with a low firing rate and no penetrating power. Despite having an outrageous storage capacity it still wouldn't fare well against more than one armored vehicle, which fortunately don't seem to exist, and it would be virtually powerless against an airstrike or a ranged weapon, both of which are also non existent in the series. Everyone else uses weak infantry units, transport ships which seem to have very little offensive power, and one asshole dragon with the power to come back from the dead an infinite number of times. It's like World War 1 in space.
[QUOTE=Aredbomb;27247311]The most powerful thing in the entire series is a essentially a heavily armored soldier that that carries a large, heavy-looking weapon with a low firing rate and no penetrating power. Despite having an outrageous storage capacity it still wouldn't fare well against more than one armored vehicle, which fortunately don't seem to exist, and it would be virtually powerless against an airstrike or a ranged weapon, both of which are also non existent in the series. Everyone else uses weak infantry units, transport ships which seem to have very little offensive power, and one asshole dragon with the power to come back from the dead an infinite number of times. It's like World War 1 in space.[/QUOTE] Your argument is so flawed, I cannot comprehend where you possibly got your information from. Have you played a single metroid game? First of all, Samus' armor could easily withstand several dozen direct hits from a modern day tank, and shrug it off. Name one armoured vehicle that can withstand over a dozen direct missile hits? And samus has fought numerous armoured vehicles. [url]http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Space_Pirate_ATC[/url] She even has her own gunship. As for no penetrating power, that is completely wrong. It's called the plasma beam. It penetrates heavy armour, burning through multiple enemies easily. The wave beam phases through solid objects, such as walls. And Samus can literally spam missiles. Samus also has access to a long ranged sniper weapon: [url]http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Imperialist[/url] An airstrike wouldn't come close to killing Samus, and that's if the airstrike even hits her, as she can run faster than the speed of sound. [url]http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Speed_Booster[/url] As for the infantry, they use high powered energy assault rifles, but there isn't much information about that. And that 'asshole dragon,' is highly durable, and extremely strong, with both organic and mechanical parts. Your information was wrong in every way. Not to be rude, but it would be nice if you actually knew something about a topic before getting into an argument.
I just realized this thread was made to argue about fiction as if it were fact. Why? [editline]7th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27247495] Your information was wrong in every way.[/QUOTE] So is yours because it doesn't exist.
[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27246881]Is it possible for you to post an argument without insulting someone? I was simply pointing out the fact that Bungie accepts the Fall of Reach as canon, and even the Halopedia states that Mjolnir armor injures normal humans. There is no point in arguing against what has been accepted as canon. And in case you're wondering, I have read your previous posts in this thread.[/QUOTE] But apparently you haven't read and understood the chapter in the book.
[QUOTE=Soul-Chicken;27247583]I just realized this thread was made to argue about fiction as if it were fact. Why? [editline]7th January 2011[/editline] So is yours because it doesn't exist.[/QUOTE] How does my information not exist?
[QUOTE=Jewsus;27245489]Yea but they're still blue, slow and impossible for so many reasons. Also, how is it that the plasma shots aren't effected by gravity if they're moving so slow. After all, displacement due to gravity on earth=4.9m/s^2 x time^2 and those little blue gobs fly like a softball--probably about 110 feet per second out of the muzzle. So even if you neglect air resistance, the stupid things will fall down about downwards about forty meters in order to travel the distance of a football field. Even if you double or triple that speed (which would be untrue to the game as I see it), you're still talking about your shots going fifteen feet below where you're aiming. I suppose they could probably have aiming technology to compensate for that, but it doesn't even come into play anywhere in the game or the novelization.[/QUOTE] You've got balls of coherent plasma with no power source that somehow don't dissipate instantly. I don't think magic gravity is that much of a problematic stretch then :P As to boneheaded warfare decisions in sci fi. Halo is far from the worst offender. Mass effect is arguable worse. We hardly see any ground combat vehicles apart from an IFV Humanity managed to reverse engineer alien technology in such speed that it was capable of withstanding against an alien race with a far far longer time to reverse engineer said technology. Hell humanity is becoming the biggest armed force in the universe - with only having a few decades of experience with the tech. They sure love their small squad units of humans. If I were Cerberus, I'd get a few hundred ymir's and loki's, completely disable any external input to prevent hacking, give them a command to kill everything inside the collector station and fire them into it. Ergo it seems idiotic ideas in sci fi happen, it seems to be a universal rule by now. As to artillery in the haloverse. I think they forgot it in the same place as the people that made the movie starship troopers. (There really doesn't have to be any in the book)
The Wraith is a mortar and you can call in an arty strike in Reach. In fact I've been wondering if the Covenant even have an MBT. Or if the Wraith is considered flexible enough to fill that role, maybe it's the Revenant.
Guys, stop bumping the thread. Leave it to die.
Why? It's a good discussion when it's not "X IS BETR THAN Y ZOMG" etc.
[QUOTE=imadaman;27251013]Why? It's a good discussion when it's not "X IS BETR THAN Y ZOMG" etc.[/QUOTE] Rated late.
Whoa whoa guys, are you really arguing about tech in a sci-fi videogame? Damn and I thought I was nerdy
[QUOTE=zakedodead;27251064]Rated late.[/QUOTE] Why so? I was just informing the lad who missed it before.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;27251101]Whoa whoa guys, are you really arguing about tech in a sci-fi videogame? Damn and I thought I was nerdy[/QUOTE] What else should we be arguing? It's science bloody fiction.
And this thread started so nicely.
[QUOTE=BmB;27247792]But apparently you haven't read and understood the chapter in the book.[/QUOTE] You really need to get a better argument than "hurr derp you haven't read the book or if you have and don't hate it as much as me you must be stupid." As a matter of fact, I have read the book, so go on, bring up one particular part in the book that you think is silly and explain why you think it is silly then.
[QUOTE=lavacano;27246874]Arguing on the Internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.[/QUOTE]It feels nice to find any excuse to feel superior to other people, doesn't it?
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