• Why the tech of the Halo Universe is a step backward.
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BmB has contributed very little to the overall discussion of the thread, at least for the past few pages.
[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27268764]Anyway, no matter what the result of the AC-130 debate, you simply can't ignore the diversity of Aerial combat vehicles that we have. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force#Aircraft_inventory[/url][/QUOTE] You're assuming that the Covenant is incompetent and only has 3 or 4 flying vehicles and is completely not prepared to fight battles on the surface of planets against creatures an entire evolutionary tier below them.
[QUOTE=yuki;27269232]You're assuming that the Covenant is incompetent and only has 3 or 4 flying vehicles and is completely not prepared to fight battles on the surface of planets.[/QUOTE] I didn't assume that. The Covenant may have a lot of flying vehicles, but us humans have a lot also.
Everyone, let's abandon this thread and leave BmB to be the sad little king of his very own sad little hill.
[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27269250]I didn't assume that. The Covenant may have a lot of flying vehicles, but us humans have a lot also.[/QUOTE] With superior firepower, no less. I think I've said before that it's a miracle humanity even won the war. If it weren't for the combined effects of SPARTAN-117 and the Arbiter causing the Covenant Civil War, we would have been boned.
We've pretty much discussed all that there is to discuss. I agree with RayvenQ that we should abandon this thread; it has clearly out-stayed its welcome.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;27265396]It's also 40,000 years in the future, i suspect humanity may have advanced since then. Realism alone doesn't help make something better, but a 2 to 3 decade long background history sure does.[/QUOTE] Yeah but aren't we kind of fucked now since were not going anywhere in technology for a while since all of the imperium is afraid of advancing? Orks will just keep getting bigger and bigger, tau keep advancing, eldar are pretty much screwed, chaos feeds off of every imperial death, and the nids will just eat everything, but us? Were stuck in a literal dark age aren't we?
[QUOTE=yuki;27269232]You're assuming that the Covenant is incompetent and only has 3 or 4 flying vehicles and is completely not prepared to fight battles on the surface of planets against creatures an entire evolutionary tier below them.[/QUOTE] How do you know they're more evolved than us? The only real difference is their biology and level of technology, which they didn't even invent themselves. For all we know, humans won't evolve any further and neither would the Covenant.
[QUOTE=johan svensk;27268169]480 km/h is not that slow, besides the AC-130's weapons would take out the seraph before it even get close.[/QUOTE] I doubt an C130 would last very long, it's made of aluminum. If you guys want, I can go take some pictures of what plasma does to aluminum. Even the highest quality aircraft grade aluminum is horrible horrible shit, it's only redeeming value is that it's light. It won't tolerate fatigue and it won't tolerate temperature. So, get a big plane, poke a bunch of large holes into it's structure with a weapon that generates temperatures high enough to instantly liquefy the aluminum and you have a plane that is generating higher drag on a structure that is no longer tempered, causing it to fatigue at a rapid rate. It spells absolute disaster for the plane.
A Combine vs. Covenant debate would be much more interesting.
Just bringing it up, but isn't the covenant doomed, as strong as they are I feel I recall them being in the process of something that looks to be a huge civil war, their military leaders are power-hungry and care more about getting honor than victory, and that the prophets themselves had different plans from each other?
[QUOTE=Chrisholl;27270389]Just bringing it up, but isn't the covenant doomed, as strong as they are I feel I recall them being in the process of something that looks to be a huge civil war, their military leaders are power-hungry and care more about getting honor than victory, and that the prophets themselves had different plans from each other?[/QUOTE] Not to mention, the Elites (pretty much their greatest asset n terms of ground troops) have left, only to be replaced by the brain-dead, useless Brutes.
[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27270411]Not to mention, the Elites (pretty much their greatest asset n terms of ground troops) have left, only to be replaced by the brain-dead, useless Brutes.[/QUOTE] Not only have they left but they are on OUR side now correct?
[QUOTE=Chrisholl;27270433]Not only have they left but they are on OUR side now correct?[/QUOTE] Yep :D [editline]7th January 2011[/editline] Anyway, who cares, Combine > All
The whole timeline of the latest few parts of halo is quite confusing, the books have some 3 to 4 different points of view going on at any point in time, at the time of the invasion of reach you have every spartan but master chief on reach defending it, while master chief is off doing his own shit on some covenent ship(which is where cortana works out the targeting on the covenants plasma weaponry for their ships, I believe) and then he goes and blows up an entire invasion fleet that was on its way to somewhere(earth?) [editline]8th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27270513]Yep :D [editline]7th January 2011[/editline] Anyway, who cares, Combine > All[/QUOTE] Can't we just give all our soldiers crowbars?
[QUOTE=Chrisholl;27270616]The whole timeline of the latest few parts of halo is quite confusing, the books have some 3 to 4 different points of view going on at any point in time, at the time of the invasion of reach you have every spartan but master chief on reach defending it, while master chief is off doing his own shit on some covenent ship(which is where cortana works out the targeting on the covenants plasma weaponry for their ships, I believe) and then he goes and blows up an entire invasion fleet that was on its way to somewhere(earth?) [editline]8th January 2011[/editline] Can't we just give all our soldiers crowbars?[/QUOTE] Nope, only Gordon Freeman can wield the crowbar.
[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27270692]Nope, only Gordon Freeman can wield the crowbar.[/QUOTE] We could mount a crowbar launching weapons platform?
[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27247495] Name one armoured vehicle that can withstand over a dozen direct missile hits?[/QUOTE] I know this is a bit late, but there was a challenger tank that took many direct hits from rpg fire and only had a camera damaged.
[QUOTE=Chrisholl;27270703]We could mount a crowbar launching weapons platform?[/QUOTE] No, we should build a functional sniper crowbar.
[QUOTE=BmB;27268844]You certainly should care because it's very relevant to the discussion.[/QUOTE] Saying "this discussion is dumb" is *related* to the discussion, but it isn't particularly useful. Of course comparing a video game to real life isn't going to be very fair, but you don't have to spoil our fun.
[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27270513]Yep :D [editline]7th January 2011[/editline] Anyway, who cares, Combine > All[/QUOTE] Actually, they're not. Now, they're just indifferent to us.
[QUOTE=Arachnidus;27271007]Actually, they're not. Now, they're just indifferent to us.[/QUOTE] Who, the Combine?
[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27270826]No, we should build a functional sniper crowbar.[/QUOTE] We could make MAC guns shoot large crowbars right?
[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27271099]Who, the Combine?[/QUOTE] No, the Sangheili(Elites). In Halo: Chronicles, it's expressed that the Elites aren't necessarily allied with us, just no longer at war with us, even with the Arbiter's urging.
[QUOTE=Chrisholl;27271236]We could make MAC guns shoot large crowbars right?[/QUOTE] Or you could do it the old fashioned way, and use the Gravity Gun to fling crowbars. [QUOTE=Arachnidus;27271244]No, the Sangheili(Elites). In Halo: Chronicles, it's expressed that the Elites aren't necessarily allied with us, just no longer at war with us, even with the Arbiter's urging.[/QUOTE] Well, it basically means the same thing when it comes to the war. The Elites fight alongside us. Did I mention how fucking useless the Brutes are?
[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27271248]Or you could do it the old fashioned way, and use the Gravity Gun to fling crowbars. Well, it basically means the same thing when it comes to the war. The Elites fight alongside us. Did I mention how fucking useless the Brutes are?[/QUOTE] Oh, no doubt. The Brutes are literally so batshit mother fucking stupid that they actually reached regular space travel ~3 times, and each time went to war and knocked themselves back down to the industrial era. The only reason it didn't happen again the most recent time was because the Covenant intervened before.
Hey I thought you were going to leave the thread forever.
[QUOTE=Arachnidus;27271313]Oh, no doubt. The Brutes are literally so batshit mother fucking stupid that they actually reached regular space travel ~3 times, and each time went to war and knocked themselves back down to the industrial era. The only reason it didn't happen again the most recent time was because the Covenant intervened before.[/QUOTE] Not to mention the Elites look 500x cooler than Brutes. Brutes look like giant over-sized apes. I was really happy when I found out Elites were the enemy in Reach; they are very fun to fight. [editline]8th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=BmB;27271395]Hey I thought you were going to leave the thread forever.[/QUOTE] Oh God, you're back. You're tempting me.
[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27270692]Nope, only Gordon Freeman can wield the crowbar.[/QUOTE] Nobody else has quick enough reaction times.
[QUOTE=zakedodead;27271462]Nobody else has quick enough reaction times.[/QUOTE] Tell me what normal human can do this: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1mPEo47hNk&playnext=1&list=PL245AED06B89B0418&index=17[/url]
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