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Napoleon over Empire imo, although Empire does have a nice campaign map.
[QUOTE=sami-pso;34763093]Napoleon over Empire imo, although Empire does have a nice campaign map.[/QUOTE] Campaign map, shampain map. I felt like falling asleep when playing Empire. The "music" was so boring. IMO, the best way to jump into Total War is either Rome or Medieval 2.
I'm going to hop into TW. Is SHOGUN 2 a good start?
Rome or Medieval 2 [editline]19th February 2012[/editline] Best games to start off with
plus if you don't like it you're not out 50 bux
Med2 is the best to start off on. Rome and Shogun are pretty dated and may put you off to the series but they're great once you get the hang of how Total War games play out
My laptop runs S2TW on the lowest settings like shite. Would you guys recommend ETW or NTW? I'm into pirates and non-turtle AI, by the way. I also liked Rome's vibrant cartoony campaign map graphics.
S2TW runs better than ETW and NTW fyi to anyone who disagrees, this isnt running it on super directx 9000, it's running it on all low.
[QUOTE=Killerjc;34767810]S2TW runs better than ETW and NTW fyi[/QUOTE] It's hopeless then. :< Can't you like, revert the shaders to an older version in ETW/NTW like how you could in M2TW to make the game run better?
I made rebels playable in Medieval 2, but now every rebel settlement has no buildings or troops, so I have 3 mailed knights going 3 different ways conquering 80% of Europe :v:
I really want to get my $100's worth from Napoleon (how much the Emperor's edition cost here in Australia) but I just can't get myself to do the single player campaigns, and not many people here play it online from when I tried last. The campaigns just feel extremely limited, people say that Shogun 2's is but this seems way worse. Technology upgrades (understandably) aren't on the scale of Empire, and the map doesn't include India, the Americas and the trading areas. Empire was great because of what you could do in a campaign, and Shogun 2's was great because to me it felt incredibly immersive, unlike Napoleon's. Saying that, should I consider getting the Peninsular campaign? If it's an interesting experience then I'll probably get it.
The only difference is that you start in Spain and there's some new troops i think.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;34769308]I really want to get my $100's worth from Napoleon (how much the Emperor's edition cost here in Australia) but I just can't get myself to do the single player campaigns, and not many people here play it online from when I tried last. The campaigns just feel extremely limited, people say that Shogun 2's is but this seems way worse. Technology upgrades (understandably) aren't on the scale of Empire, and the map doesn't include India, the Americas and the trading areas. Empire was great because of what you could do in a campaign, and Shogun 2's was great because to me it felt incredibly immersive, unlike Napoleon's. Saying that, should I consider getting the Peninsular campaign? If it's an interesting experience then I'll probably get it.[/QUOTE] Peninsular campaign adds Guerrilla armies and provocateurs that exploit a Pro/Anti France system added to each city. It's based less on diplomacy and trade and more on straight up shooting French/British/Spanish/Portuguese dudes. I'm okay at the game and my Britain game alone has lasted me over 20 hours. Considering what you don't like about Napoleon, I'd say this is the worst possible thing for you, though. The map is only Spain, it has 4 factions, 2 of which you are immediately allied with unless you choose France, and you get a grand total of like 8 technologies.
Why the fuck is today the 20th of February and not the 23rd of March?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;34778514]Why the fuck is today the 20th of February and not the 23rd of March?[/QUOTE] Because your future self never got off his lazy ass to build a time machine.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;34780592]Because your future self never got off his lazy ass to build a time machine.[/QUOTE] Fuck him, I'll not build a time machine out of spite then.
We could strap rockets to the earth so it pushes us further around the orbit, that counts as going forwards in time, right?
[QUOTE=Sector 7;34751816]The real problem with TW diplomacy is that there's no narrative. If you suddenly get invaded, the game should describe why - in real life, wars happen for a large variety of reasons, but in TW it's always "because you/they want to conquer territory." They should include more complicated interactions between countries - in the diplomacy screen, it should show you how their leader feels about you, what your population thinks of their population and vise versa, how geared up they are for war, etc etc. Something as simple as "Britain has declared war on you for trading with their enemies!" would go a LONG way towards making the games less frustrating. The civilization series already kind of does that.[/QUOTE] I disagree. TW is not an Empire management simulator, it is not a diplomacy simulator, it is a total war simulator. It's refreshing playing the series because often times the most aggressive haphazard strategies are the most successful.
If you ask me it's about time total war got better at simulating diplomacy. If you look at rome and then at shogun 2 then not that much has changed. They keep making total war games and people keep hoping for better games, but we mostly just get new types of troops in a different setting. shogun 2 fall of the samurai seems to change that a little though.
Well felt like playing Empire, so I reinstalled it last night. I cant even get it to get past the initial title screen. So much for conquering India.
I love going Christian and Nanban in Shogun 2. I can rape any and every navy with a single Nanban trade ship. I have like 5 of them and I dominate the sea. I then killed the enemy general and his two sons. Then somehow next turn a whole stack appears out of nowhere, and that clan somehow gets another general to save the family tree. How is this possible?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;34810369]I love going Christian and Nanban in Shogun 2. I can rape any and every navy with a single Nanban trade ship. I have like 5 of them and I dominate the sea. I then killed the enemy general and his two sons. Then somehow next turn a whole stack appears out of nowhere, and that clan somehow gets another general to save the family tree. How is this possible?[/QUOTE] Dat AI cheating.
AI cheating makes me rage a great deal. You already have a computer capable of making decisions and calculating a million possibilities, why do you have to make it cheat on top of that?
To be honest, I've been playing a lot of Medieval II and I have to say that game has gotten the total war formula down perfectly. If they were to make another one, they should go back to having diplomats and more detailed settlement upgrades, family lineages and traits...basically, just like Medieval II only upgraded effects, graphics and maybe some more fancy additions given the possibilities now. Ugh, a man can dream...hard to go back to the newer ones when they're good on their own but considering the Total War title, it's a bit lacking (though empire has a fantastic campaign due to the sheer size of it)
I have to say I rather enjoy empire and medieval 1 the most. Shame 1 doesn't work on any modern computers and I'm too lazy to find a work around. But I started a new Empire campaign recently and I despise the diplomatic decisions of the AI. I got Austria down to one providence and wanted peace on my other front (Bavaria, they declared war with Austria). So I ask Bavaria for peace "WE WANT EAST PRUSSIA IN RETURN" "no how about some technology" "WE WANT THAT TECHNOLOGY, THIS TECHNOLOGY, AND EAST PRUSSIA" "how about the 2 techs and not east prussia" "NOW WE WANT MONEY AND EAST PRUSSIA" Needless to say bavarians no longer exist in my game.
AI seems to not realize how fucked they are when demanding things.
[QUOTE=Jake Nukem;34811400]AI seems to not realize how fucked they are when demanding things.[/QUOTE] The smile on my face when France demanded reparations after I conquered nearly all their holdings in Empire. I asked for their surrender, that way only some would die. they refused and most of their city was obliterated.
The MOTHERFUCKING Maratha, man. I've never had a problem with factions pulling stacks out their ass until Maratha took Portugal and tried to attack Paris with 3 1/2 full stacks in the next 5 turns. Also, is it just me or do Spain and France not seem to give a shit about America, military wise? I've found 3 Spanish settlements with no troops in them so far. I'm kind of afraid of what the Spanish and French might have once I get up around Canada.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;34810369]I love going Christian and Nanban in Shogun 2. I can rape any and every navy with a single Nanban trade ship. I have like 5 of them and I dominate the sea. I then killed the enemy general and his two sons. Then somehow next turn a whole stack appears out of nowhere, and that clan somehow gets another general to save the family tree. How is this possible?[/QUOTE] I remember once I killed five generals and the daimyo in one battle, I then followed the broken army back to their capital, killed everyone I could, and butchered the people. Feels good man.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;34810739]AI cheating makes me rage a great deal. You already have a computer capable of making decisions and calculating a million possibilities, why do you have to make it cheat on top of that?[/QUOTE] Because out of a million possibilities, they still don't know the right ones. AI cheating evens the playing field so that it isn't completely boring to play against an otherwise retarded AI.
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