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Parket I take it that your a raided. I am not so I have a question about DS10 and DS25. So far I have only done the Raid finder Dragon soul so how much do the fights change in normal from raid finder?
[QUOTE=Hordok;35766715]Parket I take it that your a raided. I am not so I have a question about DS10 and DS25. So far I have only done the Raid finder Dragon soul so how much do the fights change in normal from raid finder?[/QUOTE] generally if your gonna pug the normal ones, your more likely to do better in RF as some people are dumb fucks, but its not really much harder at all as they nerfed the shit out of it. It wasn't even hard to start with.
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[QUOTE=Flem;35767384]generally if your gonna pug the normal ones, your more likely to do better in RF as some people are dumb fucks, but its not really much harder at all as they nerfed the shit out of it. It wasn't even hard to start with.[/QUOTE] Yeah I am probably just going to pug ds10 and try to get normal mode Gurthalak. Also thank for answering my question.
[QUOTE=Hordok;35766715]Parket I take it that your a raided. I am not so I have a question about DS10 and DS25. So far I have only done the Raid finder Dragon soul so how much do the fights change in normal from raid finder?[/QUOTE] i am a raided - the fights with the 20% nerf will only really be changing mechanics wise - e.g. having to actually spread on yorsahj during green blobs and things like that. ATM if you want to pug normal 10 man is the way to go, though this is generally the difficulty rating this tier: 25 LFR < Drooling < N10 < N25 < H10 < H25 [editline]30th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=404 error;35768605][IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/15nr5sj.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] hot
its pretty hard to drool now
Anyone have any tips on how to make this game fun? The movement is clunky, the controls are a pile and a half of ass, the combat is drudgery and about as complicated as starting a helicopter*, the grind is awful, the interface makes it look like you're watching the action through a slit in a piece of cardboard, there's dickheads in every other instance, every instance is the same fucking thing, and in order to get the gear I need to do the one thing I do actually enjoy(That is raiding, I've gone on an Obsidian Sanctum mountrun and genuinely enjoyed that and I enjoyed the first two bosses of ICC10, but that run was canned because the heals had to snooze) I have to grind the living piss out of everything I can't stand. As for why I'm still playing, my GF, in exchange for playing with her, bought me a copy and 60 days worth of gametime along with picking up the sub once that expires. That 60 days of gametime was applied only a week ago. Stopping playing just simply isn't an option, I'm not the type of asshat that takes damn near $100 worth of gifts and throws it away at random. *I'm well aware arcane mages have a simple rotation of "Spam the fuck out of Arcane Blast, fire arcane missiles when they light up, blink towards tank if adds mob you". That's why I rolled one as an alt. When the tedium of handling my 85 hunter's weapons gets too much I switch to her and spam "3" until all the things in the room are dead. I'm also well aware that hunters are by far not the most complicated lot to play, I've seen my GF's rotation before. lolwarlock.
[QUOTE=TestECull;35773301]The movement is clunky[/quote] you press W to move forward and you turn the camera/player with rightmouse, how is that clunky at all? [QUOTE=TestECull;35773301]the controls are a pile and a half of ass[/quote] uhh you press 1 to attack and w to move? so ass bro, so ass [QUOTE=TestECull;35773301]the combat is drudgery and about as complicated as starting a helicopter*[/quote] pressing 1 2 3 4 5 is complicated? [QUOTE=TestECull;35773301]the grind is awful[/quote] you have no idea what youre talking about [QUOTE=TestECull;35773301]the interface makes it look like you're watching the action through a slit in a piece of cardboard[/quote] what the fuck res are you using? stop using some shit 800x600 monitor and it wont be like that [QUOTE=TestECull;35773301]there's dickheads in every other instance[/quote] welcome to the internet [QUOTE=TestECull;35773301]every instance is the same fucking thing[/quote] welcome to pve, scripted shit that never changes go fucking pvp if it bothers you [QUOTE=TestECull;35773301]and in order to get the gear I need to do the one thing I do actually enjoy(That is raiding, I've gone on an Obsidian Sanctum mountrun and genuinely enjoyed that and I enjoyed the first two bosses of ICC10, but that run was canned because the heals had to snooze) I have to grind the living piss out of everything I can't stand. [/quote] then buy/make boes or go pvp or quit playing [QUOTE=TestECull;35773301]When the tedium of handling my 85 hunter's weapons gets too much[/QUOTE] a hunter is complaining about hard combat, how cute
[QUOTE=TestECull;35773301]Anyone have any tips on how to make this game fun? The movement is clunky, the controls are a pile and a half of ass, the combat is drudgery and about as complicated as starting a helicopter*, the grind is awful, the interface makes it look like you're watching the action through a slit in a piece of cardboard, there's dickheads in every other instance, every instance is the same fucking thing, and in order to get the gear I need to do the one thing I do actually enjoy(That is raiding, I've gone on an Obsidian Sanctum mountrun and genuinely enjoyed that and I enjoyed the first two bosses of ICC10, but that run was canned because the heals had to snooze) I have to grind the living piss out of everything I can't stand. As for why I'm still playing, my GF, in exchange for playing with her, bought me a copy and 60 days worth of gametime along with picking up the sub once that expires. That 60 days of gametime was applied only a week ago. Stopping playing just simply isn't an option, I'm not the type of asshat that takes damn near $100 worth of gifts and throws it away at random. *I'm well aware arcane mages have a simple rotation of "Spam the fuck out of Arcane Blast, fire arcane missiles when they light up, blink towards tank if adds mob you". That's why I rolled one as an alt. When the tedium of handling my 85 hunter's weapons gets too much I switch to her and spam "3" until all the things in the room are dead. I'm also well aware that hunters are by far not the most complicated lot to play, I've seen my GF's rotation before. lolwarlock.[/QUOTE] sounds like you have the wrong genre
[QUOTE=parket;35773544]sounds like you have the wrong genre[/QUOTE] I do. Last year I would have said all MMOs suck big hairy donkey testicles and that I don't want a damn thing to do with any of them. EVE changed my mind. WoW is sooo close to changing it back it isn't even funny. I more or less don't have a choice in the matter unless I want to be an ass to my better half. She's not only spent $100 getting me in, but she's gonna take up the sub too once the timecard expires. All she asks in return is that I play with her. I just don't have it in me to throw that sort of gift away. So, I, somewhat mistakenly, turned to FP to try to figure out how to make it enjoyable to play. Once I get geared to run cata raids it should be a lot better, the few raids I have been on I genuinely enjoyed. They were just mount/transmog runs, but I imagine the big raids are as well. [QUOTE=Chirno;35773518]you press W to move forward and you turn the camera/player with rightmouse, how is that clunky at all?[/quote] Can't turn with the mouse while clicking abilities. Besides, it's not the movement controls that are clunky, at least not the ground controls, it's all the other controls that are. Flying controls are fucking awful though. Holding middle mouse/right mouse/whatever the fuck mouse button you want to hold to fly around gives me wanker's cramp, and the keyboard controls make it seem like I've had six pints of darkmoon special reserve before taking off. Thank god the autorun key works in flight too. [quote]uhh you press 1 to attack and w to move? so ass bro, so ass[/quote] So stuck up. So stuck up. [quote]pressing 1 2 3 4 5 is complicated?[/quote] It's not the button presses. It's knowing when to press what button, in what order to press them, and what mobs are weak to what traps. Simply pressing '1 2 3 4 5' will not do any good. I'm getting the hang of it(Currently, 4-5-6-3, spam 2, spam 3 when the CD finishes/it lights up, hit 1 to kill the chickens in Goldshire), but that doesn't make it any less tedious, and it doesn't make it any more enjoyable. 'Tis the whole reason I rolled the mage alt in the first place, wanted a toon that didn't require a complex procedure to kill anything heartier than common fowl. [quote]you have no idea what youre talking about[/quote] No fucking shit, why do you think I asked for help making the game fun?! [quote]what the fuck res are you using?[/quote] 2048x1536. [quote] stop using some shit 800x600 monitor and it wont be like that[/quote] You gonna buy me an LCD? No? Thought so. Don't tell me this sort of shit if you're not willing to buy me the monitor. Not everyone has $300 sitting around for a proper gaming LCD of the 1080P variety. Having a widescreen display wouldn't make the interface any better anyway. It'd still be a clunky, clattered mess. It'd simply widen the slit enough to use both eyes. [quote]welcome to pve, scripted shit that never changes[/quote] EVE's PVE is sooo much better. It doesn't have to be the same scripted never-changing shit. But it is. And it's annoying. [quote] go fucking pvp if it bothers you[/quote] PVP is even worse. If you don't have top-of-the-line PVP gear you don't get anywhere. I ran one BG just to try it, decided PVP isn't for me and haven't touched it since. If I want to PVP I'll play TF2 or EVE. [quote]then buy the gear[/quote] With what money? All my damn gold has gone towards buying Sands of Time for my GF's Vial of the Sands. Before that, and now that she has it after that, engy mats. Besides, I'm currently grinding heroics to get JP to buy stuff, so it's not like this hasn't been thought of. But thanks for being condescending, it's a huge help! /sarcasm ...mental note: Never ask facepunch for help. Everyone is just an enormous bell-end and refuses to help a newbie asking for help. [quote]/make boes[/quote] Engy/Mining. My mining is maxed but my engy isn't quite to the point I can make stuff that profits very well. [quote] quit playing[/quote] Not an option. I'm not the type of asshat that throws a hundred dollar gift in the trash because they don't like it. [quote]a hunter is complaining about hard combat, how cute[/QUOTE] Where'd I say hard? Go quote it. While you fruitlessly search for where I said it's hard, let me just say that complicated doesn't mean hard. I don't even find the heroics hard. The game is quite easy. It's just complicated...Idunno, maybe Dragon Soul is a real ballbuster. I haven't ground out enough JP to buy the gear to run that. But the heroics and mount runs I have gone on were anything but hard. I asked for help making wow fun, not condescending dickery. Please give the former, the latter doesn't help at all. I know you won't, but it'd be nice if someone on FP would act like a person and not a cock for once. Try doing what parket is doing, he's being rather nice.
[QUOTE=TestECull;35774630]Can't turn with the mouse while clicking abilities.[/QUOTE] rofl were done here
[QUOTE=TestECull;35774630]I do. Last year I would have said all MMOs suck big hairy donkey testicles and that I don't want a damn thing to do with any of them. EVE changed my mind. WoW is sooo close to changing it back it isn't even funny. I more or less don't have a choice in the matter unless I want to be an ass to my better half. She's not only spent $100 getting me in, but she's gonna take up the sub too once the timecard expires. All she asks in return is that I play with her.[/QUOTE] You are whining so much even after someone gave you some options, your at the point where no ones gunna change your mind so why would you even bother asking about it. If you are really that bothered just say and I'm sure they will understand I'd just say stop crying about something that you can just say no to.
[QUOTE=TestECull;35774630] EVE's PVE is sooo much better. It's not the button presses. It's knowing when to press what button, in what order to press them, and what mobs are weak to what traps. Simply pressing '1 2 3 4 5' will not do any good. I'm getting the hang of it(Currently, 4-5-6-3, spam 2, spam 3 when the CD finishes/it lights up, hit 1 to kill the chickens in Goldshire), but that doesn't make it any less tedious, and it doesn't make it any more enjoyable. 'Tis the whole reason I rolled the mage alt in the first place, wanted a toon that didn't require a complex procedure to kill anything heartier than common fowl.[/QUOTE] lol [QUOTE=TestECull;35774630]Where'd I say hard? Go quote it.[/QUOTE] [quote]the combat is drudgery and about as complicated as starting a helicopter*[/quote] [quote]When the tedium of handling my 85 hunter's weapons gets too much[/quote] you at least implied it
[QUOTE=TestECull;35774630]I do. Last year I would have said all MMOs suck big hairy donkey testicles and that I don't want a damn thing to do with any of them. EVE changed my mind. WoW is sooo close to changing it back it isn't even funny. I more or less don't have a choice in the matter unless I want to be an ass to my better half. She's not only spent $100 getting me in, but she's gonna take up the sub too once the timecard expires. All she asks in return is that I play with her. I just don't have it in me to throw that sort of gift away. So, I, somewhat mistakenly, turned to FP to try to figure out how to make it enjoyable to play. Once I get geared to run cata raids it should be a lot better, the few raids I have been on I genuinely enjoyed. They were just mount/transmog runs, but I imagine the big raids are as well. Can't turn with the mouse while clicking abilities. Besides, it's not the movement controls that are clunky, at least not the ground controls, it's all the other controls that are. Flying controls are fucking awful though. Holding middle mouse/right mouse/whatever the fuck mouse button you want to hold to fly around gives me wanker's cramp, and the keyboard controls make it seem like I've had six pints of darkmoon special reserve before taking off. Thank god the autorun key works in flight too. So stuck up. So stuck up. It's not the button presses. It's knowing when to press what button, in what order to press them, and what mobs are weak to what traps. Simply pressing '1 2 3 4 5' will not do any good. I'm getting the hang of it(Currently, 4-5-6-3, spam 2, spam 3 when the CD finishes/it lights up, hit 1 to kill the chickens in Goldshire), but that doesn't make it any less tedious, and it doesn't make it any more enjoyable. 'Tis the whole reason I rolled the mage alt in the first place, wanted a toon that didn't require a complex procedure to kill anything heartier than common fowl. No fucking shit, why do you think I asked for help making the game fun?! 2048x1536. You gonna buy me an LCD? No? Thought so. Don't tell me this sort of shit if you're not willing to buy me the monitor. Not everyone has $300 sitting around for a proper gaming LCD of the 1080P variety. Having a widescreen display wouldn't make the interface any better anyway. It'd still be a clunky, clattered mess. It'd simply widen the slit enough to use both eyes. EVE's PVE is sooo much better. It doesn't have to be the same scripted never-changing shit. But it is. And it's annoying. PVP is even worse. If you don't have top-of-the-line PVP gear you don't get anywhere. I ran one BG just to try it, decided PVP isn't for me and haven't touched it since. If I want to PVP I'll play TF2 or EVE. With what money? All my damn gold has gone towards buying Sands of Time for my GF's Vial of the Sands. Before that, and now that she has it after that, engy mats. Besides, I'm currently grinding heroics to get JP to buy stuff, so it's not like this hasn't been thought of. But thanks for being condescending, it's a huge help! /sarcasm ...mental note: Never ask facepunch for help. Everyone is just an enormous bell-end and refuses to help a newbie asking for help. Engy/Mining. My mining is maxed but my engy isn't quite to the point I can make stuff that profits very well. Not an option. I'm not the type of asshat that throws a hundred dollar gift in the trash because they don't like it. Where'd I say hard? Go quote it. While you fruitlessly search for where I said it's hard, let me just say that complicated doesn't mean hard. I don't even find the heroics hard. The game is quite easy. It's just complicated...Idunno, maybe Dragon Soul is a real ballbuster. I haven't ground out enough JP to buy the gear to run that. But the heroics and mount runs I have gone on were anything but hard. I asked for help making wow fun, not condescending dickery. Please give the former, the latter doesn't help at all. I know you won't, but it'd be nice if someone on FP would act like a person and not a cock for once. Try doing what parket is doing, he's being rather nice.[/QUOTE] To sort out the control issues, bind A and D to left strafe and right strafe respectively, bind all your abilities for faster access - all of these combos are pretty easy to access: 1 2 3 4 5 // Shift + 1 2 3 4 5 // CTRL + 1 2 3 4 5 // QERTFGHXCV // F1 2 3 4 5 I use these and I'm pretty much at the top tier of players during this patch. By binding keys you free your mouse up for more fluid movement and faster reaction times in both PvE (Higher DPS) and PvP (Advantage over opponent). You also mentioned liking the raids you have done as mount/transmog runs so far: [url]www.openraid.eu[/url] can give you a whole new horizon of events to attend all through the REAL ID feature - the only disadvantage being that your BNET email is given to strangers and if you don't like em you can just block em. As for the user interface I agree it's a slab of shit but thankfully there are community built UIs to give it a nice paint job - [url]http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat106.html[/url] RealUI and QuseUI are the best I've used so far so have fun. There are also a bigger variety of addons available with different functions made to make the QoL in game much better, here's some I recommend: ArkInventory - Bag addon Dumpster - Intentory management addon WeakAuras - Alert addon for when you get a certain buff etc. really cool if you can work it Tradeskillmaster - Wealth generating magic factory (get a guide from the undermine journal below) You seem to like EVE a lot so here's some good news; -WoW does have it's own economy called the auction house, while it may not seem a lot at first here's two websites that will help you bend it to your advantage: -http://stormspire.net/content/ -https://eu.theunderminejournal.com You mentioned having mining and engineering, if you do intend to make money in any sorts drop it and grab Jewelcrafting instead, you can then process the ores you get from mining into gems that people use to augment their gear at the end game level. There are many more guides at the first website I linked to way more guides for gold making. Also you mention not wanting to press a lot of buttons to kill something, that's how it goes if you have bad gear sorry - as you progressively get better gear you'll begin to destroy regular mobs but elites in dungeons and raids will get weaker against you. It's just the way the game works and is another reward for progression. You also mentioned PvE sucking dick or something similar, you can't really say that till you've tested it all. Here's some guides to learn how to play hunter btw: [url]www.noxxic.com[/url]
chose hunter for scroll, havent a clue how to play it
[QUOTE=Tey;35776477]chose hunter for scroll, havent a clue how to play it[/QUOTE] I haven't played many other classes besides hunter and I don't know if you're PvE or PvP based, but hunter is a very complicated class. However if you're questing, all you need is a short rotation just like any other class.
My rotation is the Aimed Shot followed straight by the Arcane Shot spam. I usually get my raptor pet to strike first.
[QUOTE=Abrown516;35778104]I haven't played many other classes besides hunter and I don't know if you're PvE or PvP based, but hunter is a very complicated class. However if you're questing, all you need is a short rotation just like any other class.[/QUOTE] lol hunter has got to be one of the most easiest classes to play
Hunter rotation. SS>ES>BS>CS pretty much. It's easy as shit.
[QUOTE=Abrown516;35778104] but hunter is a very complicated class.[/QUOTE] Not trying to be insulting but you clearly don't have a clue about hunters.
Maybe I'm outdated, but I had spells filled over three action bars and I used each one in a typical arena match.
hey i'd just like to drop in and say pretty much every class is around equal in terms of complication, any class that seems simple in it's abilities (e.g. my holy paladin) is given a crux to balance their gameplay around - for example divine plea (heal penalty), HR placement, hands and our mastery. another good example is arc mages, if they don't get off evo without having to interrupt it for a lethal mechanic - which may not seem so serious but at heroic level the amount of shit you have to deal with is increased a shit tonne. same deal for pvp, while priest admittedly may be a bit more complex mechanic wise they can easily escape crowd controls - the only way for a paladin to do this is to give up their hand of sacrifice so they can receive damage. [editline]1st May 2012[/editline] though most of this is being removed in MoP and i assume the new complication in the game comes from balancing your talents around the encounter which will be refreshing
[QUOTE=Abrown516;35781586]Maybe I'm outdated, but I had spells filled over three action bars and I used each one in a typical arena match.[/QUOTE] I have about 3, but only use 1-2 depending on what we're up against. I don't know what it's like for a hunter in pvp though. Most of the ones i go up against really don't know what they are doing.
[QUOTE=TestECull;35773301]Anyone have any tips on how to make this game fun? The movement is clunky, the controls are a pile and a half of ass, the combat is drudgery and about as complicated as starting a helicopter*, the grind is awful, the interface makes it look like you're watching the action through a slit in a piece of cardboard, there's dickheads in every other instance, every instance is the same fucking thing, and in order to get the gear I need to do the one thing I do actually enjoy(That is raiding, I've gone on an Obsidian Sanctum mountrun and genuinely enjoyed that and I enjoyed the first two bosses of ICC10, but that run was canned because the heals had to snooze) I have to grind the living piss out of everything I can't stand. As for why I'm still playing, my GF, in exchange for playing with her, bought me a copy and 60 days worth of gametime along with picking up the sub once that expires. That 60 days of gametime was applied only a week ago. Stopping playing just simply isn't an option, I'm not the type of asshat that takes damn near $100 worth of gifts and throws it away at random. *I'm well aware arcane mages have a simple rotation of "Spam the fuck out of Arcane Blast, fire arcane missiles when they light up, blink towards tank if adds mob you". That's why I rolled one as an alt. When the tedium of handling my 85 hunter's weapons gets too much I switch to her and spam "3" until all the things in the room are dead. I'm also well aware that hunters are by far not the most complicated lot to play, I've seen my GF's rotation before. lolwarlock.[/QUOTE] i've been playing a priest recently and I don't know what the fuck you're bitching about with about 20 hours of play I've gotten to level 42, playing shadow is fun as hell and doing disc healing is actually more entertaining than I thought read up on some guides for your class and talent spec to see what you're doing wrong
I'm liking Noxxic. Despite my urge to make a Warlock, I've never played one before and being boosted to 80 doesn't help. But the website covers plenty of info for any class I'll ever need.
being boosted to 80 for someone who never reached 60 in vanilla is really fucking disorienting now that I'm leveling up an alt I can actually enjoy and not be confused also I really love being dual talent in shadow and discipline. discipline healing is fun, because if you do it right you barely have to heal
Yeah, that's a pretty big jump. Glad you are enjoying it. If you ever find yourself on illidan, hit me up. [URL="http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/illidan/Xada/simple"]armory link[/URL]
Anybody else think that rogue T13 head/leather agi valor head looks absolutely retarded on most races?
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;35792713]Anybody else think that rogue T13 head/leather agi valor head looks absolutely retarded on most races?[/QUOTE] Rogue T13 is the reason why rogues got a legendary in 4.3.
FUCK. Someone got into my account and made bunch of gold sellers. Deleted some of them, but the remaining ones won't let me delete them because they have some sort of "heirloom" or some shit. Added an Authenticator and password changed, I don't understand how the hell people grab my account.
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