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[b]Turanic Cartel[/b] [img]http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/4505/98051421128.png[/img] [release][b]Cartel History[/b] The Turanic Cartel are a group of fierce, nomadic warriors who ravage the space lanes. They give no quarter and ask none; in fact, there was no communication at all between combatants when the Cartel clashed with the Caldari Navy. They are not completely without guile, however, as they were organized enough to serve the Amarr Emperor Riestiu IV, as they now collaborate with the fragmented Gurista Loyalist factions.[/release] [release][b]Pirate Information[/b] STATUS: Recruiting Current Occupation: OUTLAWS WANTED: Caldari Space, Minmatar Space, Gallente Space, Amarr Space [b]KB: [url]http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=corp&name=Turanic+Cartel[/url][/b][/release] [release][b]Turanic Code[/b] The Turanic Cartel has a set of guidelines which allow possible applications whether or not they believe they are fit to join Turanic in its journey. We are mainly looking for EU/ US Pilots, that enjoy piracy, if you think that pilot is you, contact us. 5 Million Skill points Active (Real Life comes first, just inform us if you need to be away for awhile) Self Sufficient (We do Pirate Payouts, but, being self capable is a plus) Previous PVP Experience Fully Fit T2 Battle Cruiser Vent (Mic is a Big Plus) What we can Offer Piracy Ship Replacement Loot Payout Support from Corp/ Alliance and Blues we have in the area Industrial Base (Selling ships to members at a good price, keeping the pirate machine going) Relaxed corp, No "Yes Sir!", Relax we are a place to be. Ransom's (We do this often) Training What we Expect Be on Vent Listen to the FC/ CEO/ Directors Try to be on Fleets Talk to us, were here as your friends, if you need help, we will help you. Earn some ISK. Join Public Channel "Turanic Outpost"[/release] [b] Recruitment Video[/b] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtAFOmNw-2A[/media]
[quote=The Luftwaffle]1. BSs are overkill for L3s anyway. Get a battlecruiser that can actually hit the targets.[/quote] Overkill or not, it works, and I hit the targets well enough. Drones deal with what I can't hit. [quote=The Luftwaffle]2. Your pitiful DPS is a testament to the fact that you do not have the skills to fly a BS properly. I don't think I bought one until I had 6 or 7 million SP. Buy a smaller hull until you have the skills to fly bigger.[/quote] I have some 20 million SP, though granted I've never trained skills which give bonuses seriously (such as missile bombardment); considering I've just about hit a roadblock in what to fit, and I'm training those type of skills now. [quote=The Luftwaffle]3. You are using only one omniresist mod and 2 reppers. The usual is 3-4 mission specific hardeners and one repper. You'll tank each mission better and use less cap and fitting.[/quote] I tank everything fine. [quote=The Luftwaffle]4. You have a total of 9 slots dedicated to capacitor. This is due to your poor skills, dual LAR setup, and the fact that the Abaddon eats cap like crazy. It works, for now at least; as I've mentioned before, I plan to drop this fitting for a more suitable one when I have the skills. Which is basically the one you posted below. 5. The Apocalypse is superior to the Abaddon for mission running, so if you insist on using a BS without the skills to do so, sell the Abaddon, but the Apoc, and bank ~45 million.[/quote] Pretty irrelevant, considering that the cap mods will be dealt with in time, and that I'm not going to sell the abaddon for an oversized rifle. [quote=The Luftwaffle]Try this fit: 8x guns (best you can fit) 4x cap recharger II 4x mission specific hardeners 1x LAR 2x heat sink II 3x CCC You can obviously play with it to suit your fitting skills. But as said before, you are way better off with a BC for level 3s. A Drake or a Myrmidon would be your best bets, although a Harbinger would work if you don't have missile/drone skills, or you just like Amarr.[/quote] One thing which really irritates me with the EVE community, and it certainly isn't just in this thread, is the obsession with efficiency. I fly what I fly because it is fun, not because it is the best fitting ever. I mean, god forbid someone try a fitting slightly different than the one everyone uses. This has strayed far offtopic, I just wished to know why the stats reported were different in EVE than Pyfa, and that's been covered. Edit: In addition, we've just been war decc'd, that would happen to be any of you now, would it?
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;34057359]Edit: In addition, we've just been war decc'd, that would happen to be any of you now, would it?[/QUOTE] NO, BUT YOU HAVE GIVEN ME IDEAS! HOLD ON WHATS YOUR PILOT NAME?
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;34057359]Overkill or not, it works, and I hit the targets well enough. Drones deal with what I can't hit. I have some 20 million SP, though granted I've never trained skills which give bonuses seriously (such as missile bombardment); considering I've just about hit a roadblock in what to fit, and I'm training those type of skills now. I tank everything fine. Pretty irrelevant, considering that the cap mods will be dealt with in time, and that I'm not going to sell the abaddon for an oversized rifle. One thing which really irritates me with the EVE community, and it certainly isn't just in this thread, is the obsession with efficiency. I fly what I fly because it is fun, not because it is the best fitting ever. I mean, god forbid someone try a fitting slightly different than the one everyone uses. This has strayed far offtopic, I just wished to know why the stats reported were different in EVE than Pyfa, and that's been covered. Edit: In addition, we've just been war decc'd, that would happen to be any of you now, would it?[/QUOTE] You tank everything fine because you are running level 3s, but what ever. I won't even begin to question what you dumped your skillpoints into and still only came up with that DPS, but I imagine combat isn't really your thing, or something. Regardless, better than my friend who was running level 1s in his Hyperion that he bought from farming the Caldari Titan, and who always runs a dedicated anti-explosive hardener even though he usually only fights Serpentis.
[QUOTE=Shadow Core;34057280][b]Turanic Cartel[/b][/QUOTE] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzo4ONrI8n8]I find myself slightly disappointed[/url]
WhiteFox08, none of the links in the OP work. Just a heads up. [editline]4th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=DarkMonkey;34058872][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzo4ONrI8n8]I find myself slightly disappointed[/url][/QUOTE] Only go to battle to the finest. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMUorA_nQEs&skipcontrinter=1[/media]
glad to see the new thread has twice as much piss and vinegar [editline]4th January 2012[/editline] ^ holy shit that song fits the thread's tone so well
stared doing 1/10 + 2/10 complexes with a cheaply fitted rifter and on my second one I looted a 55m-worth faction shield booster. /happy
[quote]Hi, there are a few new things from Team BFF in the latest build. Please play around with them and let us know if you have some issues Big smile New agents list, it tells you if you've been offered or if you've accepted a mission from an agent Watch list can now have 15 people Watch list can now be ordered by dragging and dropping pilots Chat member list can be made more compact, right click on chat tab and "Show Compact Member List" New icons for online/offline, blocked and voice in member lists The online/offline notification which pops up when your buddy/enemy logs in is now has standings icon Said notificaction can be dragged to chat to info link that pilot and right clicked on You can now shift click modules to overload them Overload button shows feedback from when it's been clicked until it's activated/deactivated You can now filter the skills you see in your character sheet and skill queue to find the skill you want (Dev blog on all these little things coming soon Blink)[/quote] [url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=54035&find=unread[/url]
[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5182016/2012.01.05.19.00.32.jpg[/img] Where's the damn undock button now.
Pithum A-Type Medium Shield *heart skips a beat* Transporter *dies inside* Damn it CCP, gimme some REAL loot!
I'll take it.
All sold.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;34057359] One thing which really irritates me with the EVE community, and it certainly isn't just in this thread, is the obsession with efficiency. I fly what I fly because it is fun, not because it is the best fitting ever. I mean, god forbid someone try a fitting slightly different than the one everyone uses.[/QUOTE] While I share this sentiment, it must be stated that there's a pretty goddamn good reason certain fits are used in certain applications. I've found that using these fits tends to generate more fun per isk than going entirely your own way. There is a little wiggle room here and there, but from what I can see you're so far off the beaten path you can't even see the streetlights. If it works, fine. use it. I'm not gonna sit here and try to tell you what to fit. But just the same I wouldn't be flying that ship with that fit either, I'd be much much more in line with the norm, Especially if I was flying Amarr, or still flying Gallente, given how cap sensitive their weapons are. Oh, and if you don't want to train cap skills, fly Minmatar or Caldari. Missile and projectile turrets use next to no cap, so you won't need anywhere near as many cap modules to keep everything running. They do use a fair amount of powergrid, I had to train Advanced Weapon Upgrades to level three in order to fit the six 720mm Howitzers on my Hurricane in any semblance of a useful manner, but if you use autocannons you shouldn't have much trouble there.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;34057359]One thing which really irritates me with the EVE community, and it certainly isn't just in this thread, is the obsession with efficiency.[/QUOTE] Ugh I was trying to run an industry company (ships and modules, tech 1) and I got tons of idiots like you. They insisted it was better to mine every single mineral we needed rather than mine the most expensive one exclusively, sell it, and buy the cheaper stuff. By running my own operations efficiently, I made 3x as much money in the same amount of time than if I did it their way. With that money, I got bigger implants, raising my skills faster so I could fly more ships with better builds so I could have more fun... and be more efficient while I did it. Efficiency and fun are not mutually exclusive. And on that note, being forced to play with teammates who don't have your best intentions in mind (let alone their own) is a real pain in the ass.
[QUOTE=TestECull;34078903]Oh, and if you don't want to train cap skills, fly Minmatar or Caldari. Missile and projectile turrets use next to no cap, so you won't need anywhere near as many cap modules to keep everything running. They do use a fair amount of powergrid, I had to train Advanced Weapon Upgrades to level three in order to fit the six 720mm Howitzers on my Hurricane in any semblance of a useful manner, but if you use autocannons you shouldn't have much trouble there.[/QUOTE] Missiles and projectiles actually use 0 cap.
[QUOTE=The Luftwaffle;34080586]Missiles and projectiles actually use 0 cap.[/QUOTE] Thanks for reiterating what I said. :P
[QUOTE=TestECull;34080596]Thanks for reiterating what I said. :P[/QUOTE] "next to no cap" made it seem like you were implying they use cap, but not a lot of it.
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;34080484]Ugh I was trying to run an industry company (ships and modules, tech 1) and I got tons of idiots like you. They insisted it was better to mine every single mineral we needed rather than mine the most expensive one exclusively, sell it, and buy the cheaper stuff. By running my own operations efficiently, I made 3x as much money in the same amount of time than if I did it their way. With that money, I got bigger implants, raising my skills faster so I could fly more ships with better builds so I could have more fun... and be more efficient while I did it. Efficiency and fun are not mutually exclusive. And on that note, being forced to play with teammates who don't have your best intentions in mind (let alone their own) is a real pain in the ass.[/QUOTE] On this note: I fly expensive ships where I know the increased price makes a considerable difference. If I cared about efficiency, I would fly a drake when doing herp derp stuff. For fun, I fly a 1b isk 100mn Tengu instead. At least the Tengu, in this situation, offers some [I]advantages[/I] over the drake, with better damage, range, and eWar Abilities. There's one thing spending alot of isk on a shiny, specialized ship, with small returns for your investment, but then there's spending a bunch of money on a poorly fit, ~~cooler~~ ship that does the same thing, but worse than the cheap alternative.
Whats a good shiny shield ship for incursions? I'm in a nightmare right now, but somehow I feel inadequate. I see vindicators and machariels a lot more than I see nightmares.
Pulse nightmare is up there man
[QUOTE=PsiSoldier;34082151]"next to no cap" made it seem like you were implying they use cap, but not a lot of it.[/QUOTE] It's a figure of speech on this side of the pond that means 'nothing' or 'a negligible amount'. If one says something costs next to no money, it means the cost is so low as to be negligible. Indeed, in the context I used it, it means they use no cap.
Please don't try to pass that off as an Americanism when you were just being imprecise/wrong. [editline]6th January 2012[/editline] The difference between "nothing" and a "negligible amount" is the difference between having your mods shut off from neuts or not.
[QUOTE=scout1;34083085]Pulse nightmare is up there man[/QUOTE] Still doesn't explain why I see 3-4 vindis/ machs for every nightmare I see. They're all priced around the same so it can't be price. Is it because vindis and machs have more DPS?
[QUOTE=Kommodore;34084704]Please don't try to pass that off as an Americanism when you were just being imprecise/wrong. [/QUOTE] Didn't know James May played EvE Online. 'Sup James!
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;34057359]Pretty irrelevant, considering that the cap mods will be dealt with in time, and that I'm not going to sell the abaddon for an oversized rifle.[/quote] Unless you use it in pvp, you should get rid of the Abaddon. It's not a good mission ship at all; it's slow, it struggles with cap, and you need to jam pack it with tracking mods to do any real damage to sub-BS ships. [quote]One thing which really irritates me with the EVE community, and it certainly isn't just in this thread, is the obsession with efficiency. I fly what I fly because it is fun, not because it is the best fitting ever. I mean, god forbid someone try a fitting slightly different than the one everyone uses.[/QUOTE] When it comes to running missions, if you're not looking to be efficient, then you should go full-on dick around mode. In other words, gather up all your corpies and use frigates to run L4s with a single logi and see how long you guys can last. Don't shit fit an Abaddon to run L3s and try to play the "I just want to have fun" card, just admit you don't know what the hell you're doing. T1 cruisers can out-damage that fit you posted, that's not a good thing at all.
I should really jump back on Eve, last thing I done was finish training skills for a Jaguar so I could actually stand a good chance PvPing but that was like 3 weeks ago and I never went on to update my skill queue. In fact I think I'll do that when I'm back home later today.
[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5182016/2012.01.08.15.37.58.jpg[/img] Damn that's one nice looking ship.
I can't see it, is it behind the space banana?
[QUOTE=Bulaba0;34114837]I can't see it, is it behind the space banana?[/QUOTE] the purifier is a better space banana
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