• World of Tanks - Ramen Speed
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Why am I getting lectured "how bad" Chi-Ri is again? If you want significantly better acceleration, you simply mount the stock turret, which is also smaller. If you want the autoloader/more HP/+10 meters for view range you mount the second turret. More importantly, you [B]need [/B]to be able to utilize all the good features it has, which is a vital thing for playing mediums, especially the majority of tier 8 ones which have guns with laughable alpha damage. If you can't figure out how to play it, you might as well not bother to play unusual tanks at all. I do not consider myself as a great player, but I still somehow have ~2000 WN8 in Chi-Ri which means one can do well in it. Also comparing it to regular autoloader tanks may not be a good idea, mainly due to the fact that it [B]does not [/B]have any characteristics typical for autoloaders: no long aim time nor very long reload time.
[QUOTE=Puvleek;44669737]I still somehow have ~2000 WN8 in Chi-Ri which means one can do well in it.[/QUOTE] WN8 goes off tank averages remember, so you may not be doing as well as you think when compared to other tanks, you're just making a shitbox work better than other people do [editline]a[/editline] [t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24075839/worldoftanks/images/randomchat/nochance.JPG[/t]
[QUOTE=PsiSoldier;44669791]you're just making a shitbox work better than other people do[/QUOTE] This fact alone clearly indicates that every pile of shit (well, maybe except for the light tanks the matchmaking of which has yet to be fixed), when used properly, can perform really well. One needs to develop a separate mindset for each tank - I still remember myself hating the T25 AT until I read somewhere that it should be played like a turretless medium, which proved successful.
of course every tank [I]can[/I] perform well, but that doesn't change the fact that some tanks are just plain shit [B]in comparison to their peers[/B] just because i've got a high rating and win-rate in the douchewagen 2, because i managed to somehow make it work, doesn't mean it's any less of an abominably god-awful wank-stain, for example
the chi ri made me lose faith in my country
[t]http://i.imgur.com/wwhVj9P.jpg[/t] And this is why I do not care when people whine about me bringing a chaffee into a tier 10 game. Let this sink in for a minute: I outdamage a Foch 155, WTE-100, T-57 and a FV215b
chaffe is the best tanku, it's the one in which I feel like the parody of my skill actually exists, and can genuinely albeit still indirectly change the outcome of a battle, also the gun owns, sucks that it's cash multiplier is so low, even in great matches w/o prem you're going to lose money
[QUOTE=PsiSoldier;44670017]of course every tank [I]can[/I] perform well, but that doesn't change the fact that some tanks are just plain shit [B]in comparison to their peers[/B][/QUOTE] That is true, indeed. Still, my ultimate point is the "making it work" thing, which, unfortunately, is completely different for every player-tank relation. According to stats, I am doing better in Chi-Ri than in Comet and T20, despite the fact that I consider T20 to be noticeably better; perhaps I have gotten better since the time when I was still grinding the T20. Oh, and what I think that is more important is actually having fun playing a tank, because that's what this friggin' game is about. I do enjoy playing Chi-Ri more than for instance Comet, and that is what matters the most.
Historical battles are completely dead. WG fucked up a promising gamemode by doing a rush job and by adding the slowest and buggiest matchmaker this game has ever seen (even for the smallest tanks). Literally nobody in the queue even during daytime.
[QUOTE=Puvleek;44670429]having fun ... because that's what this friggin' game is about....[/QUOTE] you mean this game isn't about making muh numbaz go up and being an autist? blasphemy! [editline]a[/editline] [t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24075839/worldoftanks/images/itbegins.JPG[/t] it begins [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5BcF79rlwM[/media] [editline]a[/editline] [B]i held LMB for 4 seconds and two full-hp tanks died - what even is this tank [/B]
its rather nice to average 1k xp when winning, yet i can only seem to do it in my comet [img]http://i.imgur.com/Hn7fM23.png[/img]
If you sell a tank with a camo, do you lose that camo too?
[QUOTE=Novangel;44671797]If you sell a tank with a camo, do you lose that camo too?[/QUOTE] i [B]think[/B] in 8.11 they made it so if you sell a tank which has permanent camo, you can re-apply it if you buy it back but don't quote me on that though... :v:
For maybe one fucking game could it [I]not[/I] be me vs the entire flank? These players are significantly less intelligent than I remember, but that could just be the juxtaposition of F2P apes and real humans hitting me again.
well i decided to stop playing for the night after i got ammo racked from full health near the start of the game in my comet
[QUOTE=Nexosz;44670371]chaffe is the best tanku, it's the one in which I feel like the parody of my skill actually exists, and can genuinely albeit still indirectly change the outcome of a battle, also the gun owns, sucks that it's cash multiplier is so low, even in great matches w/o prem you're going to lose money[/QUOTE] I don't understand how someone could willingly endure enough of the M5 Stuart to amass the 55k exp needed for a Taffee.
[QUOTE=maxumym;44672096]I don't understand how someone could willingly endure enough of the M5 Stuart to amass the 55k exp needed for a Taffee.[/QUOTE] You'll understand once you have the chaffee.
Played a match with the type 64 (chaffee's chinese step-brother) today, got 5k exp doubles and top damage in a tier 8 game.
[QUOTE=maxumym;44672096]I don't understand how someone could willingly endure enough of the M5 Stuart to amass the 55k exp needed for a Taffee.[/QUOTE] If only the americunt M5 was half as good as the Chinese M5A1, grinding for the Chaffee would be achievable. Instead we get the terribad 75mm that doesn't suit the chassis at all.
I'm pretty sure the Lowe gets slower every time I play it.
[QUOTE=Mbbird;44672557]I'm pretty sure the Lowe gets slower every time I play it.[/QUOTE] The problem with the Lowe is that it's obsolete, it was added to the game when armor still mattered and premium tanks were generally worst than their equal tier counterparts. But now it's almost completely worthless because it gets pounded by Tier IX and X artillery, TDs, and mediums before it even has a chance to get into position or fire it's gun. It needs to get preferential matchmaking or the Super Pershing treatment because I would trade it for a IS-6, Jagdtiger 88, or some other premium that has preferential MM.
[QUOTE=Bbarnes005;44672705]The problem with the Lowe is that it's obsolete, it was added to the game when armor still mattered and premium tanks were generally worst than their equal tier counterparts. But now it's almost completely worthless because it gets pounded by Tier IX and X artillery, TDs, and mediums before it even has a chance to get into position or fire it's gun. It needs to get preferential matchmaking or the Super Pershing treatment.[/QUOTE] This is a pretty core problem with Wargaming, they are scared of actually making these tanks better. The Lowe itself and the Type 59 are to blame for this, at the time, they weren't the best tanks available but they reached a level of competence that made people play them, and play them in large numbers, over everything else. they were statistically worse but this was in large part overlooked because of they shitting money and were "good enough." but here in lies the problem, no one wanted to drive anything else, so lacking stronger opponents to keep them in check they overran matchmaking causing hell for tanks underneath them and only having to deal with fighting THEMSELVES most of the time so began over performing and they essentially formed a money singularity and more and more people were buying these tanks and sending the metagame and through the ringer, the very reason premium tanks are worse is to give a downside to the increased income that they have so they cannot grind completely optimally, just more efficiently while sacrificing combat effectiveness. but the playerbase [B]actually managed to bend the meta game to their will so that they were grinding in an optimal environment, IE: everyone was playing Tier 8 so Tier 8 games were forming more than anything else and premium tanks being sub optimal vehicles, only had to worry about fighting other premium tanks AKA [I]OTHER SUB OPTIMAL VEHICLES THUS RENDERING THEM META[/I] and lower tier tanks that they easily bulldozed.[/B] Wargaming fucking panicked, but nerfing these tanks would be interpreted as a bait and switch by the player-base who would likely not trust Wargaming in the aftermath to actually spend that kind of money ever again, and at the time and still today tier 8 premiums are fucking pricey. so the Lowe got a price jack up, the Type got removed all together and the KV-5 soon followed partially I think as a preventive step because the KV-5 was always seen as a surrogate Lowe with more obvious flaws, now that I own one I see it's still a good machine and it would have likely been the next stop for people who didn't get a type when it was for sale and don't want to shell out for a Lowe. so fast forward to now, the Lowe is obsolete because of power creep, and the Type is still as good as it ever was. this will likely never change because in the immediate aftermath new premium tanks that followed, specifically the Matilda Black Prince have massive glaring flaws, massively inflated price tags, and are frustratingly balanced to actually DISCOURAGE this kind of thing from happening again. This is probably why we also haven't really seen premium tanks we've know to exist for months, YEARS even come into the game, they are dangerous if liked too much and must be tended to carefully. but I do not like this, to me, Premium tanks have much more Character to them because of their quirks, which very few tree tanks match, which is why my garage is full of premium tanks and scarcely any tree tanks, which most of the time merely feel like stepping stones which exist to be overshadowed by the bigger stepping stones down the line.
Tfw I didn't buy the WTE100 when it was on sale because I just couldn't bother playing the game and instead I stopped at the WTPz4. Oh well, at least the grind is irrelevant because the tanks are OP. Shogoll you faget message me for tournament stuff
[QUOTE=Charm6000;44672066]well i decided to stop playing for the night after i got ammo racked from full health near the start of the game in my comet[/QUOTE] I one-shot someone at the start of a match with a blind cross-map shot while playing bumscag artillery. No fun allowed.
[QUOTE=maxumym;44672096]I don't understand how someone could willingly endure enough of the M5 Stuart to amass the 55k exp needed for a Taffee.[/QUOTE] You think the M5 is bad, wait until you play the T21...
Getting bloody sick of this game. Every time I'm doing well and winning, the game crashes.
I thought I would ask here. I don't play tanks, so would anyone want a 3 day premium code? Free of course. Just me pm me. Edit: Gone!
[QUOTE=Puvleek;44669737]Why am I getting lectured "how bad" Chi-Ri is again? If you want significantly better acceleration, you simply mount the stock turret, which is also smaller. If you want the autoloader/more HP/+10 meters for view range you mount the second turret. More importantly, you [B]need [/B]to be able to utilize all the good features it has, which is a vital thing for playing mediums, especially the majority of tier 8 ones which have guns with laughable alpha damage. If you can't figure out how to play it, you might as well not bother to play unusual tanks at all. I do not consider myself as a great player, but I still somehow have ~2000 WN8 in Chi-Ri which means one can do well in it. Also comparing it to regular autoloader tanks may not be a good idea, mainly due to the fact that it [B]does not [/B]have any characteristics typical for autoloaders: no long aim time nor very long reload time.[/QUOTE] Eeh, alright. I might give it a try, but so far my best battle was with the non-autoloading gun. [QUOTE=Orkel;44669342]it's too big to hide and too slow to run[/QUOTE] Indeed. Not to mention how fat arty-magnet this tank is. EVEN in tier 9 battles all the arties will start aiming at you and try to blast you off the map. I get that it's slow and fatass, but come on there are tier 9 tanks you could shoot... My plan was to free EXP straight to the STA-1, but it was kinda expensive so I thought about playing with the Chi-Ri since it didn't feel that bad at the start... Now I regret buying this PoC. I'm just trying to get the STB-1, I'm not sure will I even keep that STA-1 and Type 61 even though they are awesome. We'll see when I get there. STB-1 here I come, slow but sure.
Chi-Ri might not be the most efficient tank, but after playing the terrible Chi-Nu and Chi-To it sure was nice to play a fun tank again. I enjoyed playing it, the gun has a unique playing style.
What's wrong with the Chi-Nu?
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