• Yakuza thread V1: Essence of Real Estate
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[QUOTE=RichyZ;52979224]Kiwami 2 seems to be getting some bad reviews from the community, a rushed sorta mess a bit like 6 and it still uses the ps2 anims on even higher quality models[/QUOTE] which should be expected considering that's what the first kiwami is as well
[QUOTE=Hakita;52979792]which should be expected considering that's what the first kiwami is as well[/QUOTE] i was just hoping theyd at least make new animations/lipsync for the new cutscenes, people are sayin it looks really jarring in the later more emotive scenes, fishlips on a photorealistic model dont exactly sell a scene ya know
I started playing Kiwami 1 without having ever played the original, but it didn't look bad to me except the fact that it definitely looked more like a PS3 game than PS4.
Its really noticeable going from Yak 0 to Kiwami 1 at least in the facial animation department. It seems so basic compared to 0.
I just got introduced to Majima in Yakuza 0 and this guy is [sp]cool[/sp]
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;52983450]Its really noticeable going from Yak 0 to Kiwami 1 at least in the facial animation department. It seems so basic compared to 0.[/QUOTE] I think that was one of Yakuza 0s biggest features. Those facial animations are really top notch. It made the cutscenes way more believable tbh.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;52979224]Kiwami 2 seems to be getting some bad reviews from the community, a rushed sorta mess a bit like 6 and it still uses the ps2 anims on even higher quality models[/QUOTE] I can vouch for this. I speak a fair amount of Japanese so I was able to power through the game. My biggest complaints in the main story are: 1. Lack of music variation for Kamurocho's street fights, I'm pretty sure it cycled through at least three songs on the original, but Kiwami 2 only has Push Me Under Water (rip Blockhead boy, I was really looking forward to that. Also where the fuck is Crazy Ken Band?) 2. They removed a location from the game, but still stuffed in the plot into Sotenbori 3. Yeah the animations can be really bad at times because it's still the ps2 ones. Sometimes it's not so bad, but it was really noticeable during[sp]the scene where Kaoru and Kiryu spend the night having fun and playing games[/sp]. In some sections of the game the facial animations are way better than others. 4. The combat is still lacking in so many ways. It's a step up from 6 but it still has the same core problems (lacking a lot of heat moves, combo chain is incredibly short, focuses on light ragdoll physics too much) 5. Majima's section feels like an afterthought in some ways, was worth it for a few scenes though 6. Overall just feels like a Yakuza 6 mod, which isn't inherently bad but in this case it feels a little cheap 7. Instead of remastering/remaking all the cutscenes songs, they throw in some songs from the other games or just change the songs entirely which give some cutscenes a different feel. Sometimes they straight up remove songs and put nothing in their place, for example the song that plays in the Aoi bar is no longer there, yet sometimes they keep a few original Yakuza 2 songs? Really confusing at times And etc. It feels like a big mess at times, which is disappointing because it was nice to see so many things in HD. This is one of my favorite games of all times so I'm a bit peeved at how rushed it feels. I just wish they used another year instead of throwing this out a year after 6. I still enjoyed my time with the game though, there's plenty of good things to talk about though. I just don't feel that it's good enough to replace the original in any form
In all honestly I'm not surprised the quality is slipping seeing as they seem to be doing a Telltale and have like 3 different games in development at the same time.
So, what do you recommend. Playing the original Yakuza 2 or remake?
[QUOTE=Highwind017;52992494]So, what do you recommend. Playing the original Yakuza 2 or remake?[/QUOTE] I really recommend playing the original. Sure the graphics aren't as nice, but I feel that it has way more personality and feels way more complete than Kiwami 2. I think Kiwami 2 is a nice thing to go play after the original but it doesn't replace Yakuza 2 at all
[QUOTE=Highwind017;52992494]So, what do you recommend. Playing the original Yakuza 2 or remake?[/QUOTE] play the original if you can handle the stiff fighting
[QUOTE=Hakita;52992862]play the original if you can handle the stiff fighting[/QUOTE] As far as im aware, the fighting is a lot more refined from Yakuza 1 and ive only ever did the tutorial for Yakuza 2 (Emulated) so i think i'll do that after i get around to Kiwami 1. Yak 2's fighting felt a lot better during that brief time i had with it.
yak2 adds switching directions mid attack which is a gigantic improvement over yak1's system of "line up your attack and pray your target doesnt move too much"
If im not mistaken, you can parry from the very start in Yak 2.
I started playing the Yakuza games not too long ago, my first game being Yakuza Zero. I love how starting with Kiryu the first time seeing his multiple heat moves has me screaming "Oh my god he's fucking dead!" It's just so brutal. And then when I was able to play Majima for the first time and he said the line of "I never killed anyone" I just rolled my eyes hard wondering what brutal heat moves Majima will have. Some minutes into his side of the story and he's doming people with bats and shanking people in the gut with knives. AND THAT FUCKING CHINESE SWORD COMPLETELY THROUGH THE STOMACHE! \ And that escort mission had me in a giggle fit when Majima has this huge scene which boils down to "I will protect you" but begins to furiously break dance through the whole event. This game has such a beautiful balance between serious and silly shenanigans. I can't wait for Kiwami 2 to come out in the US
[QUOTE=RichyZ;52996571]yak2 adds switching directions mid attack which is a gigantic improvement over yak1's system of "line up your attack and pray your target doesnt move too much"[/QUOTE] I liked Yakuza 1 over all but man did I hate its combat by the end of it.
i like yakuza 1's combat because it feels so similar to the recent titles (in a good way) while clearly having a lot of issues to develop past its not amazing but its crazy how good it feels for the era
So I finished Yakuza 0 and got into a good amount into Yakuza Kiwami and I was wondering if I could just start Yakuza 3 after I finish Kiwami while we wait for Kiwami 2 to be localized.
[QUOTE=shadowray7;53023182]So I finished Yakuza 0 and got into a good amount into Yakuza Kiwami and I was wondering if I could just start Yakuza 3 after I finish Kiwami while we wait for Kiwami 2 to be localized.[/QUOTE] you can but i recommend at least emulating 2 or something, its held up pretty well and you can appreciate the changes to combat that 3 makes
I just finished Yakuza 0 and that was one hell of a game. It's too bad the rest of the games except yakuza 2 are on PS3. At least I can get one for dirt cheap though. [editline]6th January 2018[/editline] So are they going to remake all of the games? I'm still reeling from yakuza 0 and it'll be a while before I touch kiwami and even longer before I play kiwami 2 and it gets localized
[QUOTE=Dr.C;53031680]I just finished Yakuza 0 and that was one hell of a game. It's too bad the rest of the games except yakuza 2 are on PS3. At least I can get one for dirt cheap though. [editline]6th January 2018[/editline] So are they going to remake all of the games? I'm still reeling from yakuza 0 and it'll be a while before I touch kiwami and even longer before I play kiwami 2 and it gets localized[/QUOTE] i doubt kenzan, 3 and 4 are going to be remade, theyre all pretty good anyway and aren't too graphically behind
Just bought Yakuza 0 on a whim. Don't know what to expect but the "sobering" up drunkards is already hilarious enough for me. Especially when they got their teeth kicked in but were all casual later.
Playing Yakuza Kiwami. It's my first Yakuza game and I really like it. The Majima Everywhere system is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
Hokuto ga Gotoku gameplay starting around 22 minutes [media]https://youtu.be/yCGyQjRbGkI?t=21m41s[/media]
God I hope they release it in the US.
[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;53050539]God I hope they release it in the US.[/QUOTE] Considering their recent releases have done really well in the West I'd say its a safe bet this'll get localized.
Finished Yakuza Zero at last. Will need a bit of a break before i tackle Kiwami. I'll play on normal difficulty from now on, playing on Hard was a bit of a mistake, the super armor that some bosses had just got ridiculous, unless i was playing the game wrong or something. [sp]Sera[/sp] for instance when he goes into heat is almost untouchable if you try to just regular combo him. Beast Mode reigns supreme.
I started Kiwami today and this game seems much harder than 0 was. The boss fights are a lot more difficult especially now that they can regain health and I don't have any dragon style abilities yet.
I still get baffled about the pure amount of content in 0 every time I fire it up, I've got something like 40 hours and I'm nowhere near into the meat of the story yet.
[QUOTE=Highwind017;53063777]Finished Yakuza Zero at last. Will need a bit of a break before i tackle Kiwami. I'll play on normal difficulty from now on, playing on Hard was a bit of a mistake, the super armor that some bosses had just got ridiculous, unless i was playing the game wrong or something. [sp]Sera[/sp] for instance when he goes into heat is almost untouchable if you try to just regular combo him. Beast Mode reigns supreme.[/QUOTE] for tough bosses you have to think of them more as like dark souls bosses than what normal enemies are in yakuza games as in try to get to their back whenever possible, attack mainly in retaliation and let the boss control the rhythm instead of going in full force i prefer playing on hard because by far my favorite experiences with yakuza games have been when i've actually struggled to beat a boss sadly because you can just fill your inventory with health items you usually kind of have to conciously handicap yourself to get that experience, though i'll never forget having to waste all my health items on the last bosses in yakuza 2 and only having a single health bar to beat the final fight with [sp]ryuji goda[/sp] with it took so many tries but by god was it satisfying, and it's such a shame that's a rare occurence with yakuza games because of how poorly balanced they are
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