• Blu-ray Discussion
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fucking citylink still riding on the poor weather excuse to not deliver parcels anywhere near on time
BluRay discs aren't exactly old either, I'm sure there are some upgrades/additions to the discs to follow some day. They just can't call it BluRayHD lol
[QUOTE=Rusty100;27072627] hence why some blu-rays take a very very long time to load on players not as much of a problem with a computer though[/QUOTE] I think that's just an issue of dedicated players not having anywhere near the amount of processing power as a PC or the PS3. [editline]30th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Mooe94;27072861]BluRay discs aren't exactly old either, I'm sure there are some upgrades/additions to the discs to follow some day. They just can't call it BluRayHD lol[/QUOTE] Blu-Ray HD will compete with HDHDDVD
[QUOTE=Starpluck;27071016]Since Blu-ray is extremely high quality, why isn't their a significant difference between Xbox 360 DVD games and PS3 Blu-ray games?[/QUOTE] Well there is in the cinematics. Same deal, video is huge and the DVD can't hold it. There is also in the amount of content. But the resolution of the game itself is limited only by the hardware and not the storage space.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;27066222]i've yet to come across a projector with a good enough quality compared to an lcd [editline]30th December 2010[/editline] and there's always the problem of not being able to see them very well during the day (even with closed curtains/blinds)[/QUOTE] actually projectors can look amazing, the trouble is those projectors are upward of three thousand dollars. even the screen should set you back almost a thousand. case in point - you cannot get a good projector setup for $1000 [editline]30th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Rusty100;27072557]aren't blu-ray discs a lot slower though[/QUOTE] yes and no. time is slower, but the speed is faster. if that makes sense. [editline]30th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Rusty100;27072627]yes but in general they are still meant to be slower i am sure of this i have also noticed it [editline]31st December 2010[/editline] hence why some blu-rays take a very very long time to load on players not as much of a problem with a computer though[/QUOTE] more or less to do with how much they've incorporated into the menu [editline]30th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Starpluck;27071016]Since Blu-ray is extremely high quality, why isn't their a significant difference between Xbox 360 DVD games and PS3 Blu-ray games?[/QUOTE] DVD for 360 isn't video DVD, but data DVD. however, as mentioned, games stored on DVD are more prone to texture and video compression, though usually lazy studios carry out how to just do the minimum when it comes to multi-platform. like infinity ward and greymatter, as popular and successful as Call of Duty is, all of them look terrible on both consoles (though much better on 360) because they didn't even bother trying.
I watched 2001 on Blu-Ray and it was amazing. Also Sprach Zarathustra never sounded better. It's a big upgrade over the the last time I watched it on VHS.
I love newegg. The speakers i bought at 3pm eastern yesterday got here at 1pm today, with free 3 day shipping. The speakers sound really really good, that's with a 30 year old stereo. I think I might get an Onkyo instead of the Yamaha.
I don't own any Blu-ray movies, but my dad rented G.I. Joe - The Rise of Cobra and the new Star Trek movie. They both looked really good, and are great with surround sound. I'll have to buy some Blu-ray movies when I have more money. The place we rent movies and games from has a really good deal. For "old" Blu-ray movies (basically anything before 2010, apparently) you can get them for 5 days for just $1. :iia:
[QUOTE=Vassikin;27088644]I don't own any Blu-ray movies, but my dad rented G.I. Joe - The Rise of Cobra and the new Star Trek movie. They both looked really good, and are great with surround sound. I'll have to buy some Blu-ray movies when I have more money. The place we rent movies and games from has a really good deal. For "old" Blu-ray movies (basically anything before 2010, apparently) you can get them for 5 days for just $1. :iia:[/QUOTE] Rip them onto your PC.
you mean rent them onto your pc
[QUOTE=doggyalt;27090303]you mean rent them onto your pc[/QUOTE] Rippp.
[QUOTE=Saxor16;27087876]I love newegg. The speakers i bought at 3pm eastern yesterday got here at 1pm today, with free 3 day shipping. The speakers sound really really good, that's with a 30 year old stereo. I think I might get an Onkyo instead of the Yamaha.[/QUOTE] nowadays Yamaha is sort of like Bose - you're only paying for the name, there's other shit that reigns king now. ie Onkyo reigns king when it comes to A/V receivers.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;27066222]i've yet to come across a projector with a good enough quality compared to an lcd [editline]30th December 2010[/editline] and there's always the problem of not being able to see them very well during the day (even with closed curtains/blinds)[/QUOTE] Or even compared to a plasma or LED. Which both look better than LCD's. [editline]31st December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=M_B;27091231]nowadays Yamaha is sort of like Bose - you're only paying for the name, there's other shit that reigns king now. ie Onkyo reigns king when it comes to A/V receivers.[/QUOTE] Ya most Bose are shit. They lack any mid-range clarity. The highs are to sharp. The bass is good but the cross over is set to high on there home theater systems.
[QUOTE=GunskiMod;27089186]Rip them onto your PC.[/QUOTE] What's the legality regarding ripping rental movies? I know it's illegal, but to what degree? Technically it's illegal to rip purchased movies as well (in the United States) because the DMCA prohibits breaking copy protection.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;27071034]because games are totally different to movies. most games would take up about the same space on a blu-ray disc than they would on a dvd size of disc doesn't change the ps3's hardware limitations[/QUOTE] Bad explanation, and mostly incorrect. Although the fact that comparing DVD video and Blu-Ray video with XBOX360 games and PS3 games is correct. Although the Playstation 3 does have hardware limitations, it has the ability to surpass the XBOX both visually and audibly. It's easy to understand if you have PC gamed. Just like PC games that take up vast quantities of harddrive space, games on Blu-ray support much MUCH higher texture resolutions and higher quality audio files. Think of the Half-Life 2 cinematic mod or something. The large and more detailed texture files require more space. More space that an XBOX is incapable of having with DVDs. Whereas with a Blu-Ray disc, you have upwards of five times the space to store textures and sounds. If you have never seen the storage capacity of a Blu-Ray disc effect the visual aspects of a game, you should check out Uncharted 2: Among Thieves, on the Playstation 3 to see just how high texture resolution can get when you have as much space as a Blu-Ray to store it. This game is simply captivating when you focus just a small amount of attention to textures. Another great example is Gran Turismo 5. Both of these games optimize the Playstation 3 entirely, as do most PS3 exclusives, and pound for pound, most PS3 exclusives surpass most any XBOX game visually and audibly do to the utilization of the Blu-Ray disc. ...Of course, a High-Def television is required.
[QUOTE=Lizurd Man;27092924] ...Of course, a High-Def television is required.[/QUOTE] Resolution has nothing to do with quality. Agreed on everything else though.
[QUOTE=GunskiMod;27093193]Resolution has nothing to do with quality. Agreed on everything else though.[/QUOTE] I was eluding to the necessity of contrast ratios. CRTs don't offer anything in terms of brightness, whereas LCD or LED provide contrasted clarity and brightening of textures. I would hate to have someone play a PS3 game on a 19inch CRT television and judge the textures by that. The brightness would be off making it look lesser in quality. Get what I'm sayin'?
[QUOTE=Lizurd Man;27093234]I was eluding to the necessity of contrast ratios. CRTs don't offer anything in terms of brightness, whereas LCD or LED provide contrasted clarity and brightening of textures. I would hate to have someone play a PS3 game on a 19inch CRT television and judge the textures by that. The brightness would be off making it look lesser in quality. Get what I'm sayin'?[/QUOTE] Yeah but what I'm trying to say is, a TV could have the same features as a "High-Def" TV, just lower resolution.
[QUOTE=GunskiMod;27093286]Yeah but what I'm trying to say is, a TV could have the same features as a "High-Def" TV, just lower resolution.[/QUOTE] Well.. then.. just as long as it provides proper brightness levels. You know what I mean, yeh?
[QUOTE=Lizurd Man;27092924]Bad explanation, and mostly incorrect. Although the fact that comparing DVD video and Blu-Ray video with XBOX360 games and PS3 games is correct. Although the Playstation 3 does have hardware limitations, it has the ability to surpass the XBOX both visually and audibly. It's easy to understand if you have PC gamed. Just like PC games that take up vast quantities of harddrive space, games on Blu-ray support much MUCH higher texture resolutions and higher quality audio files. Think of the Half-Life 2 cinematic mod or something. The large and more detailed texture files require more space. More space that an XBOX is incapable of having with DVDs. Whereas with a Blu-Ray disc, you have upwards of five times the space to store textures and sounds. If you have never seen the storage capacity of a Blu-Ray disc effect the visual aspects of a game, you should check out Uncharted 2: Among Thieves, on the Playstation 3 to see just how high texture resolution can get when you have as much space as a Blu-Ray to store it. This game is simply captivating when you focus just a small amount of attention to textures. Another great example is Gran Turismo 5. Both of these games optimize the Playstation 3 entirely, as do most PS3 exclusives, and pound for pound, most PS3 exclusives surpass most any XBOX game visually and audibly do to the utilization of the Blu-Ray disc. ...Of course, a High-Def television is required.[/QUOTE] uuh i didn't say any of this wasn't true. you just made an extention to my post, i wasn't wrong. consoles that have dvd's can have just as high a texturing as the ps3, they'd just need two discs. (like mass effect 2) all i ACTUALLY said was the size of the disc doesn't mean the games will be in super high def, to the extent of the hardware limitations. you could make the textures as big as you wanted on a ps3 disc because you have 25-50gb of space. but obviously there's a point at which the console would not be able to handle it. THAT'S what i'm saying.
just watched back to the future 3 on bluray picture quality was fucking perfect
Well the PS3 is quite good in that respect. It also passed every DVD image quality test with flying colours as far as I remember.
As far as I am aware, 360 and PS3 are both capable of the same graphics, 360 just needs more disks. Also, where can I get me some delicious 1080p porn?
[QUOTE=Rusty100;27095608]uuh i didn't say any of this wasn't true. you just made an extention to my post, i wasn't wrong. consoles that have dvd's can have just as high a texturing as the ps3, they'd just need two discs. (like mass effect 2) all i ACTUALLY said was the size of the disc doesn't mean the games will be in super high def, to the extent of the hardware limitations. you could make the textures as big as you wanted on a ps3 disc because you have 25-50gb of space. but obviously there's a point at which the console would not be able to handle it. THAT'S what i'm saying.[/QUOTE] Ah, I gotcha. We good. I just wanted to make sure it was made evident the benefits of the Blu-Ray disc when talking about games. Personally, I would and have hated multi-disc games. And after playing something like Uncharted on the PS3, the fact that you can play through the entire story without but one(beginning) loading screen was impressive, and a whole lot more immersive(like a movie). Which, of course, can be attributed to the storage size of a Blu-Ray disc. Nevertheless, PS3 will remain my personal top solely for the fact that it's got a Blu-Ray disc drive.
[QUOTE=mogul20478;27092483]Ya most Bose are shit. They lack any mid-range clarity. The highs are to sharp. The bass is good but the cross over is set to high on there home theater systems.[/QUOTE]they also don't allow you to tweak anything and almost all of their speakers, drivers, and receivers are intended for wimpy small things for your bedroom. also, they love simulated surround, and that doesn't work unless you're in a closet or with your back toward the end of a short, narrow hallway. i think the only people that buy into simulated surround are also the people with those logitech 5.1 speakers all lined up on their desk - in front of them. [editline]31st December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Lizurd Man;27102755]Ah, I gotcha. We good. I just wanted to make sure it was made evident the benefits of the Blu-Ray disc when talking about games. Personally, I would and have hated multi-disc games. And after playing something like Uncharted on the PS3, the fact that you can play through the entire story without but one(beginning) loading screen was impressive, and a whole lot more immersive(like a movie). Which, of course, can be attributed to the storage size of a Blu-Ray disc. Nevertheless, PS3 will remain my personal top solely for the fact that it's got a Blu-Ray disc drive.[/QUOTE] the reason Uncharted doesn't have loading screens is because it loads the content during cinematics. not a lot of people know or believe this, for some reason, but the cinematics are all pre-rendered, and there's a reason - so it can load in the background. that's not a feature for just the PS3, either, some 360 games have that as well, not to mention games for XBox and PS2 touted something similar. [editline]31st December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=myalt22;27100771]As far as I am aware, 360 and PS3 are both capable of the same graphics, 360 just needs more disks.[/QUOTE]yes and no, the 360 relies on its own form of DirectX, and the PS3 relies on its own form of OpenGL, so the types of graphics they can display are different in that they have different software limitations and are in a different language. this is why it's so uncommon to have a game look the same on both systems. are they both equally graphically powerful? well both have their pros and cons, but for the most part, yeah. more or less. [QUOTE=myalt22;27100771]Also, where can I get me some delicious 1080p porn?[/QUOTE]tried google?
[QUOTE=M_B;27102786] are they both equally graphically powerful? well both have their pros and cons, but for the most part, yeah. more or less.[/QUOTE] PS3 has much more processing power available, nobody seems to know how to use it though.
Games made by Sony sub-companies like Guerilla and Naughtydog take good advantage :) But this is not a ps3 game thread.
Watched The Dark Knight the other day, the overhead city shots were amazing.
[QUOTE=BrokenSanity;27120907]Watched The Dark Knight the other day, the overhead city shots were amazing.[/QUOTE] Yeah the IMAX scenes are really stunning.
Watching LOST season 6 on Blu-ray. Awesome so far... (The picture i mean, i've already seen this season once before online)
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