• Tacticlol -- my AFG on my railed AK makes it fire straighter lol
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[QUOTE=iFail;34446240]Scar-l's still definitely a lot more reliable than the md-97 they went with, and has better ergos. Making derivatives is largely pointless anyway. Half of these countries, once they start making their own designs or "improvements", everything goes to shit. Just look at that buttstock. It looks just like some incompetent designer's idea of a scar or ACR stock, without any understanding of what makes the stock [I]good[/I]. It has a shitty cheekweld, no cheekriser, and really shitty sling attachment points. Really, if you want a derivative, find the company you licensed the gun off and have them do it, like the g36KV. While when licensing a gun, there are shortcomings, that's hardly an issue compared to the problems found when some country decides to roll their own. Look at the INSAS. It's a POS. Mexico's xiuhcoatl? ehhh, pretty much a g36 without the patented features. Admittedly, countries have tried to buy COTS rifles to disastrous results. Georgia bought a ton of Bushmaster ARs when they could have got Colts for a similar price. Really, the root issue comes down to corruption and bad research.[/QUOTE] You uh, don't seem to have a problem with the T91... it is an indigenous rifle after all...
In brazil's defence, they didn't just put a stock and rails on [sp]They put on a new pistol grip, too[/sp]
[QUOTE=Lizzrd;34423222][img]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/chris-tfb.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] [img]http://i44.tinypic.com/x3zwue.png[/img]
[QUOTE=felix the cat;34446498]So everyone should just stop developing and attempting to improve firearms designs and just buy existing designs and succeed in bringing firearms development to a grinding halt? Whatever you say pumpkin[/QUOTE] Not quite. My point was that these [I]countries[/I] shouldn't waste time making indigenous firearms like the INSAS or whatever. First off, these indigenous firearms don't really contribute to the industry anyway, since most of them are bad rip offs or existing designs, with nothing new to add. Do you actually think some poor ass country can start from scratch and build a better, more innovative rifle than an established company, which already has everything in place? Bureaucrats should stick to what they know. The whole indigenous rifle shit stinks of corruption. I'd bet that one of the main reasons they roll their own is to cut costs and to give work to subcontractors they hold shares in. There's really no other reason to build an indigenous rifle. If you want a custom gun, ask a real company to do it, they won't turn down a huge contract just because you have a few requests. [editline]29th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=TaiwanesePrick;34447434]You uh, don't seem to have a problem with the T91... it is an indigenous rifle after all...[/QUOTE] It's supposed to be good, but it's a piston clone of a m16. not hugely innovative, admittedly moreso than that HK416 everyone was jizzing on. A lot of good indigenous rifles are clones. Type 89 is a AR18.
[QUOTE=Hirouzamaki;34451810][img]http://i44.tinypic.com/x3zwue.png[/img][/QUOTE] high speed low drag chest hair also costa has a nice body
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;34457775]also costa has a nice body[/QUOTE] we get it youre gay
[QUOTE=Stupideye;34459225]we get it youre gay[/QUOTE] i was gonna say that also no he doesn't
Indian army cadets [img]http://camopedia.org/images/c/ca/India18.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;34470242]Indian army cadets [img]http://camopedia.org/images/c/ca/India18.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Whats up with the fail camo?
works in the average indian store
[QUOTE=W0w00t;34470478]works in the average indian store[/QUOTE] There's an Indian store near where I live, and I can confirm that. They have some pretty neat stuff though.
[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;34442036]Brazil's new service rifle looks like a Pimp My Gun creation [img]http://cdn2.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/ia2_556-tfb.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] kinda reminds me a little bit of a sig
THE TAVAR THIRTY SIX [img]http://www.hrvatski-vojnik.hr/hrvatski-vojnik/0302005/bpictures/choto10_25A.jpg[/img]
what is that abomination [editline]31st January 2012[/editline] [img]http://i.imgur.com/BgYrd.png[/img]
looks like the distance between the stock and grip are long as fuc and uncomfortable and as an ironic twist, it takes the ak bayonet and stanags at the same time
lol the flashlight is so badly placed "you want to put your weak hand on handguard? no! I put flashlight there now you can't hold gun." also lol carry handle. You don't need a carry handle on an assault rifle, that shit is so 90s.
actually, besides heavy machineguns and other heavy weaponry, what the fuck are carrying handles even for?
They look cool. [editline]31st January 2012[/editline] No point with em if you got a sling though.
Hmm, ghost page!
nooooope.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;34474710]THE TAVAR THIRTY SIX [img]http://www.hrvatski-vojnik.hr/hrvatski-vojnik/0302005/bpictures/choto10_25A.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] The older version of the VHS that looked like a FAMAS was much better. There's also supposed to be a version with a G36 optic. Also they're taking so long to finalize a design for it that Croatia is pretty much ditching it for the G36 anyway.
[QUOTE=iFail;34474882]also lol carry handle. You don't need a carry handle on an assault rifle, that shit is so 90s.[/QUOTE] And where, master gunsmith, would the sights go?
On the top side?
[QUOTE=Lizzrd;34477453]On the top side?[/QUOTE] It's a bullpup. Have you ever tried firing a bullpup rifle without raised sights? It's not very intuitive and is more than a bit awkward. A carry handle is there to raise the sights so you don't have to wrench your head over at an awkward angle just to use the ironsights. They COULD just have very tall sights (like, for example, the Vepr prototypes), but they might as well just put them on a carry handle and add that little bit of extra functionality.
Functionality that soldiers get into trouble for, because military doesn't allow them to carry their guns by the "carrying handle". Just because they appear to "lose muzzle control"
I find the regular Tavor's sight does the job just fine.
[QUOTE=notrabies;34477934]I find the regular Tavor's sight does the job just fine.[/QUOTE] Notice how the Tavor's sights are raised, extending upwards from the body to put them in the same sight plane as the optics that are almost always used instead- almost as tall as carry handle ironsights. Almost all bullpups that don't have carry handles have very tall sights, or they're mounted higher (like on the F2000). If the Tavor had AK or AR15 style sights, it'd be near-unusable. Carry handles aren't useless embellishment. Believe it or not, but the actual firearm design firm that created the weapon may know a little bit more about firearm design than random airsofters on the Internet.
[QUOTE=catbarf;34477586]Have you ever tried firing a bullpup rifle without raised sights?[/QUOTE]No, should I have? [editline]31st January 2012[/editline] But yeah hadn't really thought about that. Still don't need the metal bridge between the sights though. [editline]31st January 2012[/editline] But yeah hadn't really thought about that. Still don't need the metal bridge between the sights though.
[QUOTE=Lizzrd;34479954]No, should I have? [editline]31st January 2012[/editline] But yeah hadn't really thought about that. Still don't need the metal bridge between the sights though. [editline]31st January 2012[/editline] But yeah hadn't really thought about that. Still don't need the metal bridge between the sights though.[/QUOTE] Maybe the carry handle is to increase it's structural strength?
[QUOTE=catbarf;34479229]Notice how the Tavor's sights are raised, extending upwards from the body to put them in the same sight plane as the optics that are almost always used instead- almost as tall as carry handle ironsights. Almost all bullpups that don't have carry handles have very tall sights, or they're mounted higher (like on the F2000). If the Tavor had AK or AR15 style sights, it'd be near-unusable. Carry handles aren't useless embellishment. Believe it or not, but the actual firearm design firm that created the weapon may know a little bit more about firearm design than random airsofters on the Internet.[/QUOTE] Uhh, that was my point though, you're stealing it. Raised sights are fine, carry handles are lame/not useful.
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