• Things You Hate About Movies You Love
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Sometimes, as good as a movie is, there's something in it that just pisses us off. This is a thread about those things. A small request, if your moment is of the spoiler-ey nature, please, name the movie, then block out the spoiler, [sp]like so[/sp]. Many thanks. For me, personally, it's in [i]Alien[/i], when [sp]Lambert dies. From what I've heard, it IS intentionally implied that the Alien is, in fact, raping her. Not that this "bothers" me or anything, I just think it's mind-numbingly stupid. Rape is a power thing; the rapist wants to feel control over someone else. This would mean that this creature that has been alive for less than 24 hours, acts purely on animal instinct, and has encountered humans for the first time not only has a full understanding of human reproduction (ie. it knows HOW to rape someone), but it also has the mental capacity to develop the motivation to rape someone. This, for me, just kills it. The Xenomorph is a being of pure instinct; everything it does, it does to survive. The idea that this creature would stop thinking "I must survive" and start thinking "I need to rape someone to satisfy my need to feel power over someone" is just incredibly... stupid... Now, if by "the Alien raped Lambert", they mean "the Alien, in the process of killing Lambert, happened to move its tail into that particular place", then that's fine, but the idea of it INTENTIONALLY raping someone, fully aware of what it was doing...[/sp] I dunno, it's just something that's always ticked me off... It just felt like an attempt to make [i]Alien[/i] "dark" and "disturbing", despite that it already IS incredibly dark and disturbing. Like they tried SO HARD, they accidentally went overboard and made it look stupid. Luckily, it's one of those "leave it to the imagination" scenes, so I can easily assume what I want and enjoy the rest of the spectacular tension and atmosphere V:v:V
I hated some of the cheesy action scenes from Minority Report and the soundtrack during those scenes, which sounded like something from Star Wars. Other than that, it's one of my favorite movies. [editline]5th May 2012[/editline] That's not to say that the soundtrack is mediocre though, everything else was amazing: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yjmd0ifC2c[/media]
[QUOTE=BanthaFodder;35814758]Sometimes, as good as a movie is, there's something in it that just pisses us off. This is a thread about those things. A small request, if your moment is of the spoiler-ey nature, please, name the movie, then block out the spoiler, [sp]like so[/sp]. Many thanks. For me, personally, it's in [i]Alien[/i], when [sp]Lambert dies. From what I've heard, it IS intentionally implied that the Alien is, in fact, raping her. Not that this "bothers" me or anything, I just think it's mind-numbingly stupid. Rape is a power thing; the rapist wants to feel control over someone else. This would mean that this creature that has been alive for less than 24 hours, acts purely on animal instinct, and has encountered humans for the first time not only has a full understanding of human reproduction (ie. it knows HOW to rape someone), but it also has the mental capacity to develop the motivation to rape someone. This, for me, just kills it. The Xenomorph is a being of pure instinct; everything it does, it does to survive. The idea that this creature would stop thinking "I must survive" and start thinking "I need to rape someone to satisfy my need to feel power over someone" is just incredibly... stupid... Now, if by "the Alien raped Lambert", they mean "the Alien, in the process of killing Lambert, happened to move its tail into that particular place", then that's fine, but the idea of it INTENTIONALLY raping someone, fully aware of what it was doing...[/sp] I dunno, it's just something that's always ticked me off... It just felt like an attempt to make [i]Alien[/i] "dark" and "disturbing", despite that it already IS incredibly dark and disturbing. Like they tried SO HARD, they accidentally went overboard and made it look stupid. Luckily, it's one of those "leave it to the imagination" scenes, so I can easily assume what I want and enjoy the rest of the spectacular tension and atmosphere V:v:V[/QUOTE] Maybe it was just horny and went with the "a hole is a hole" thing?
[QUOTE=G-Guy;35832438]I hated some of the cheesy action scenes from Minority Report and the soundtrack during those scenes, which sounded like something from Star Wars. Other than that, it's one of my favorite movies. [editline]5th May 2012[/editline] That's not to say that the soundtrack is mediocre though, everything else was amazing: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yjmd0ifC2c[/media][/QUOTE] Well it is John Williams, the only time I didn't recognize his music was during War Horse because most of the film didn't even have music.
Well this is tv shows, but breaking bad I hate that retarted kid and kids mom and I hate gay scenes in Game of thrones.
The whole psychology behind Alien was to play on the fear of being raped.
[QUOTE=cricket50;35837303]The whole psychology behind Alien was to play on the fear of being raped.[/QUOTE] yeah, but I felt like that was just taking the underlying theme a bit too far... like if at the end of Yertle the Turtle, Dr. Seuss shows up and yells "HITLER IS BAD." the thing about the Alien is that, while the acid for blood is a bit of a stretch, it just feels like a very plausible creature. having it INTENTIONALLY rape someone just makes it much less believable, which takes away from the horror aspect. like Michael Meyers. sure, it's a stretch how he survived getting shot and pushed off a balcony, but it was JUST enough to stay somewhat believable. then in the sequels, he's getting lit on fire and blown up and hit by cars and all kinds of crazy shit and he's STILL NOT DYING.
Haha, yeah I guess you are right. Although I guess it could be working through animalistic instinct though, say in the same way that a dog would hump your leg. Do they even have genitals though?
80% of the dialogue in the Star Wars prequels. They're guilty pleasures for me, I'm sorry.
[QUOTE=cricket50;35849784]Haha, yeah I guess you are right. Although I guess it could be working through animalistic instinct though, say in the same way that a dog would hump your leg. Do they even have genitals though?[/QUOTE] Well rape isn't really looked upon with the same light in the animal kingdom. Animals have natural instincts to mate, and predators have natural instincts to hunt other animals without remorse. So to xenomorphs who need a human host to cocoon, the host is both the prey and the mate. I'm sure the xenomorph doesn't think of it as a natural instinct to rape rather than a natural instinct to undergo metamorphosis, it's a parasite, not a rapist. Humans just naturally associate the act with rape.
[QUOTE=BanthaFodder;35814758]Sometimes, as good as a movie is, there's something in it that just pisses us off. This is a thread about those things. A small request, if your moment is of the spoiler-ey nature, please, name the movie, then block out the spoiler, [sp]like so[/sp]. Many thanks. For me, personally, it's in [i]Alien[/i], when [sp]Lambert dies. From what I've heard, it IS intentionally implied that the Alien is, in fact, raping her. Not that this "bothers" me or anything, I just think it's mind-numbingly stupid. Rape is a power thing; the rapist wants to feel control over someone else. This would mean that this creature that has been alive for less than 24 hours, acts purely on animal instinct, and has encountered humans for the first time not only has a full understanding of human reproduction (ie. it knows HOW to rape someone), but it also has the mental capacity to develop the motivation to rape someone. This, for me, just kills it. The Xenomorph is a being of pure instinct; everything it does, it does to survive. The idea that this creature would stop thinking "I must survive" and start thinking "I need to rape someone to satisfy my need to feel power over someone" is just incredibly... stupid... Now, if by "the Alien raped Lambert", they mean "the Alien, in the process of killing Lambert, happened to move its tail into that particular place", then that's fine, but the idea of it INTENTIONALLY raping someone, fully aware of what it was doing...[/sp] I dunno, it's just something that's always ticked me off... It just felt like an attempt to make [i]Alien[/i] "dark" and "disturbing", despite that it already IS incredibly dark and disturbing. Like they tried SO HARD, they accidentally went overboard and made it look stupid. Luckily, it's one of those "leave it to the imagination" scenes, so I can easily assume what I want and enjoy the rest of the spectacular tension and atmosphere V:v:V[/QUOTE] seriously? shit like that would go down and be acceptable in a david cronenburg movie but alien is much much more subtle about that shit. i mean alien isn't exactly subtle about it considering the whole facehugger literally shoving this dong down your throat and spurting some alien jizzum in your stomach. but still. i can't believe people actually think that happens in the movie. rape and murder are two very similar things psychologically. the act of an alien killing someone could be an allusion to the whole "rape scenario". the fact that the alien seems to be driven by this primal rage and a similarly primal need to procreate and survive, well, the alien itself has a very phallic shape itself, i mean it has a thrusting dick tongue it uses in many instances to [I]kill people by thrusting it right through them[/I].
Billy Zane's acting in "Titanic".
[QUOTE=FoodStuffs;35854269]i can't believe people actually think that happens in the movie. [/QUOTE] Ridley Scott basically confirmed it, he said something along the lines of "and you don't SEE Lambert die, but you hear something that sounds just horrible... this MOANING that doesn't SOUND like she's DYING..." with one eyebrow raised the entire time... but like I said, they covered their tails pretty well with this, making it one of those "leave it to the imagination" scenes, like the beginning of Jaws.
so basically the tree rape scene in evil dead but with a bladed tail instead of a giant blunt branch? [editline]6th May 2012[/editline] honestly i'd think he'd just be fucking with us in that regard. the whole idea is just gaudy, doesn't suit the movie for me at all.
The daughter in the War of the Worlds remake. It wasn't the best of movies, but I genuinely enjoyed it, except for the fucking girl who wouldn't stop screaming like a banshee.
[QUOTE=DTkach;35856724]The daughter in the War of the Worlds remake. It wasn't the best of movies, but I genuinely enjoyed it, except for the fucking girl who wouldn't stop screaming like a banshee.[/QUOTE] [b]THIS IS MY SPACE. *HYPERVENTALATING* I WANT MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM. *SHRIEKING*[/b] seriously, Dakota Fanning is just horrible in pretty much everything (but her sister was GREAT in Super 8). that whole movie was just kinda mediocre, but I enjoyed it (Tom Cruise throwing a peanut butter sandwich at the window is and always will be fucking hilarious).
what about man on fire?
alien was a fantastic movie and the only thing about it that i felt even came close to being laughable was the jump cut between the paper machete head and the actual head [editline]7th May 2012[/editline] speaking of which, hudson in Aliens holy fuck did i hate this guy [editline]7th May 2012[/editline] i mean shit at least predator 2 was awful so bill paxton's obnoxious wise guy act fit right in but
Leon's facial expressions as he tries to kill Deckard in Blade Runner holy shit was that hilarious
I know this has nothing to do with the movie itself, but the people who decided to make Event Horizon an R rated movie and forced Paul Anderson to cut out 30 minutes of gore, nearly all of which has been lost.
How they dealt with Muntz in the movie Up. I could think of 100 ways to resolve his plot, [sp]without killing him.[/sp] He was my favorite character. :(
Not something I hate but something that bugs me Why is Robert De Niro left-handed in The Deer Hunter and in no other movie Once Upon a Time In the West [sp]Cheyenne's death. Goddamn was it unexpected Still a really good scene[/sp] Once Upon a Time In America [sp]what is with all the rape[/sp] [sp]Why does Carol seem to note care about getting raped[/sp] [sp]what is with all the rape[/sp] Collateral [sp]how the hell did Vincent not hit Max at all in the final shooting[/sp] [sp]how the hell did Max hit Vincent at all in the final shooting[/sp] [sp]He was fucking waving the gun in circles with a poor stance[/sp] [sp]why does no one on the train give a fuck[/sp]
There aren't more Sherlock Holmes movies.
The religious bitch in "The Mist". She's there to create tension, but just ended up being really annoying to listen to throughout most of the film.
i agree. [sp]her death was supposed to be cathartic clarity. it was more of a relief moment than anything else[/sp]
The police station bomb in The Dark Knight. Why does everyone just pass out around the joker, but he's totally fine lmao. That was just silly.
[QUOTE=PieClock;35898395]The religious bitch in "The Mist". She's there to create tension, but just ended up being really annoying to listen to throughout most of the film.[/QUOTE] She's the character you love to hate, so that you can cheer when they get hit in the face with a frying pan or such.
[QUOTE=PieClock;35898395]The religious bitch in "The Mist". She's there to create tension, but just ended up being really annoying to listen to throughout most of the film.[/QUOTE] She was kinda the point of the film.
[QUOTE=PieClock;35898395]The religious bitch in "The Mist". She's there to create tension, but just ended up being really annoying to listen to throughout most of the film.[/QUOTE] Did you watch the end of the film?
[QUOTE=Kill coDer;35899894]Did you watch the end of the film?[/QUOTE] Yep. [sp]hence me saying most of the film[/sp]
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