• Guitar Discussion Thread V9 - February Edition!
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[QUOTE=SolidSnake52;35013644]Where did you even find them for sale? I've been looking around for weeks, and everywhere seems to be saying later this month.[/QUOTE] this is where i am getting them from, i assume you live in the UK? [url]http://www.soundslive.co.uk/product~name~Ernie-Ball-Cobalt-Regular-Slinky-Electric-Guitar-Strings-2721~ID~16959.asp[/url]
[QUOTE=thisispain;35017729]the JTM60 is an awesome amp yes. it sounds nothing like a marshall though. it sounds and it's built a lot more like an old fender amp. and it's a combo amp.[/QUOTE] They made JTM60 heads. [img]http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/100/f4c64965c96579ba86968d76ce21ca71/l.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Mark364;35019548]this is where i am getting them from, i assume you live in the UK? [url]http://www.soundslive.co.uk/product~name~Ernie-Ball-Cobalt-Regular-Slinky-Electric-Guitar-Strings-2721~ID~16959.asp[/url][/QUOTE] Nope, America. Guess I'm still stuck waiting D:
I'm trying to convince him to get a Tiny Terror for £175. [editline]6th March 2012[/editline] now he's making me mad. his argument is basically "I want a marshall crunch, classic sound, lol everything else is shit" he doesn't even respect the MG series for what it is (cheaper, more affordable amps, but a full range of power choices)
[QUOTE=SolidSnake52;35020578]Nope, America. Guess I'm still stuck waiting D:[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/ernie-ball-2721-cobalt-regular-slinky-electric-guitar-strings/h79095000000000[/url] [editline]6th March 2012[/editline] damn $9 is fucking cheap for those i payed £12 for mine...
[QUOTE=Mark364;35021696][url]http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/ernie-ball-2721-cobalt-regular-slinky-electric-guitar-strings/h79095000000000[/url] [editline]6th March 2012[/editline] damn $9 is fucking cheap for those i payed £12 for mine...[/QUOTE] Yeah they don't ship until April 2nd Still not available on the US market...and now delayed by a whole month and a half
The post is here, The post is here. Letters come from far and near. All year round they make me wanna cheer! [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/286964/SDC11402.JPG[/img] I'm set for the netherlands =)
What's better in your guys opinion, A big muff or metal zone? Because i want to use a distortion pedal through the clean channel on my amp, I get a better response that way.
[QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;35022741]What's better in your guys opinion, A big muff or metal zone? Because i want to use a distortion pedal through the clean channel on my amp, I get a better response that way.[/QUOTE] I prefer the big muff but really those aren't comparable pedals
[QUOTE=Dopey Trout;35020560]They made JTM60 heads. [img]http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/100/f4c64965c96579ba86968d76ce21ca71/l.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] oh that's wicked. i wouldn't mind having one of those. [editline]6th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;35022741]What's better in your guys opinion, A big muff or metal zone? Because i want to use a distortion pedal through the clean channel on my amp, I get a better response that way.[/QUOTE] uhm one's a fuzz pedal, you know that right? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP0mKB3d3Qg[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXcpqldmg_8[/media]
they say fuzz but it's really just straight dirt
[QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;35022741]What's better in your guys opinion, A big muff or metal zone? Because i want to use a distortion pedal through the clean channel on my amp, I get a better response that way.[/QUOTE] The Big Muff is a great old school OD/Dirt pedal, the Metal Zone is a horrible modern high gain pedal. What sound are you looking for? Because for old school stuff, Big Muff every time, for new stuff, you can do much better than the Metal Zone [editline]6th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=thisispain;35023269]oh that's wicked. i wouldn't mind having one of those.[/QUOTE] From what I've heard they have pretty serious reliability issues to do with heat distribution. A lot of them break down but the ones that don't will probably last longer than you, that seems to be the consensus. Probably explains why they only got made for like a year
[QUOTE=absinthe;35013985]nah all the work that actually goes into making an amp justifies the price[/QUOTE] I've never seen how. I'm not going to pretend Bugera has any idea what they're doing, and I'm not going to go out of my way to buy something just to rip it apart and examine the circuit, but the fact that you can find a $800 clone of a $2000 amp is a fairly good indication that that $2000 amp isn't worth $2000.
lol you can buy a Minimoog for 2000, and that's infinitely more complex and better made.
Clones will use cheaper components, but that still doesn't account for the price increase. Pricing is also used to increase the perception of quality.
[QUOTE=Tezzanator92;35023865]Clones will use cheaper components, but that still doesn't account for the price increase.[/QUOTE] Well, and, if we're using Bugera as an example, they skimp on the shit that has no impact on the unit, like the faceplate, wire management, and other mostly cosmetic stuff. Which means even the clones are holding out on us, hahaha.
[QUOTE=Dopey Trout;35023695] From what I've heard they have pretty serious reliability issues to do with heat distribution.[/QUOTE] oh that's easily fixed. my JTM30 stopped having heat issues once i changed the tubes completely.
[QUOTE=thisispain;35024046]oh that's easily fixed. my JTM30 stopped having heat issues once i changed the tubes completely.[/QUOTE] Well the JTM60 has a different circuit from the original JTMs, the original JTMs are Point to Point I believe, the 60 is a PCB, and the PCB is attached to the heat sink for the tubes in a stroke of engineering genius :v: [editline]6th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Xenocidebot;35024025]Well, and, if we're using Bugera as an example, they skimp on the shit that has no impact on the unit, like the faceplate, wire management, and other mostly cosmetic stuff. Which means even the clones are holding out on us, hahaha.[/QUOTE] There is absolutely no way, even for a second, that I believe that Bugera are using the same parts as Mesas in their amps
[QUOTE=Dopey Trout;35024152]Well the JTM60 has a different circuit from the original JTMs, the original JTMs are Point to Point I believe, the 60 is a PCB, and the PCB is attached to the heat sink for the tubes in a stroke of engineering genius :v: [editline]6th March 2012[/editline] There is absolutely no way, even for a second, that I believe that Bugera are using the same parts as Mesas in their amps[/QUOTE] ...But they're supposed to be clones of Peavey from what I understood
[QUOTE=SolidSnake52;35024567]...But they're supposed to be clones of Peavey from what I understood[/QUOTE] They make Mesa clones too. [QUOTE=Dopey Trout;35024152]There is absolutely no way, even for a second, that I believe that Bugera are using the same parts as Mesas in their amps[/QUOTE] Oh, sure, I wasn't trying to imply they were. My point is you can tell even Bugera crap is overpriced, because they're cutting corners on [I]everything.[/I] Cosmetic stuff like that doesn't represent a large portion of an amplifier's cost, and you can find better-built heads in the same price range, so it's clear even making a clone they're trying to charge the absolute maximum possible for the absolute minimum production cost. [editline]6th March 2012[/editline] Come to think of it, how much do you think a broken high end amplifier sells for? Might be fun to tear something pricey but ruined open just to get an idea of the parts used and see what they run for.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;35024926]Oh, sure, I wasn't trying to imply they were. My point is you can tell even Bugera crap is overpriced, because they're cutting corners on [I]everything.[/I] Cosmetic stuff like that doesn't represent a large portion of an amplifier's cost, and you can find better-built heads in the same price range, so it's clear even making a clone they're trying to charge the absolute maximum possible for the absolute minimum production cost. [editline]6th March 2012[/editline] Come to think of it, how much do you think a broken high end amplifier sells for? Might be fun to tear something pricey but ruined open just to get an idea of the parts used and see what they run for.[/QUOTE] My mistake, I thought that's what you meant [editline]6th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=SolidSnake52;35024567]...But they're supposed to be clones of Peavey from what I understood[/QUOTE] Initially, they also do Marshall and Mesa clones though
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;35024926]They make Mesa clones too. Oh, sure, I wasn't trying to imply they were. My point is you can tell even Bugera crap is overpriced, because they're cutting corners on [I]everything.[/I] Cosmetic stuff like that doesn't represent a large portion of an amplifier's cost, and you can find better-built heads in the same price range, so it's clear even making a clone they're trying to charge the absolute maximum possible for the absolute minimum production cost. [editline]6th March 2012[/editline] Come to think of it, how much do you think a broken high end amplifier sells for? Might be fun to tear something pricey but ruined open just to get an idea of the parts used and see what they run for.[/QUOTE] usually in the range of a few hundred bucks at most, they're generally pretty cheap. they tend to move fast though since most amps can be fixed fairly easily.
I was looking for a modern metal distortion pedal.
the big muff is better suited for noise rock than metal.
[QUOTE=thisispain;35025198]the big muff is better suited for noise rock than metal.[/QUOTE] Someone told me i should check it out though so i was wondering your opinions. second thought, i think he meant this one. [url]http://www.zzounds.com/item--ELHMMUFF[/url]
Metal Muff maybe, Big Muff no
i don't even know what a metal muff sounds like. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMwPP-LnGPg[/media] kinda sounds like a grating version of the big muff i guess
big muff can do some old school metal too [editline]6th March 2012[/editline] the metal muff is shit don't bother I stand by my opinion that the bass big muff pi is the best muff
[url]http://www.guitarfetish.com/Twin-Overdrive-2-Channel-Overdrive-Pedal-TS-808TS-9-Tones_p_2174.html[/url] [IMG]http://www.guitarfetish.com/thumbnail.asp?file=assets/images/twin_overdrive.jpg&maxx=0&maxy=300[/IMG] I want to recommend that pedal for overdrive. It is excellent for the price (as always with GFS) and if you use both modes at once you can get a really nice distortion through the clean channel. It's pretty thick sounding.
I'm deciding now, cause i want both a chunky djent sound for my 8 string coming in, and a distortion similar to that of Austrian death machine too.
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