• Guitar Discussion Thread V9 - February Edition!
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[QUOTE=Unreliable;35506473]What's that really gay duet band? They're scene and everything. Scene kids love them, and they make electronic kind of music? I feel like someone mentioned them just a few pages back and someone else said they hated them with a fiery passion.[/QUOTE] Brokencyde? The name leaves a bad taste upon my tongue.
[QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;35506741]Brokencyde? The name leaves a bad taste upon my tongue.[/QUOTE] Nah he's looking for a duo. That's like 4 morons.
[QUOTE=Unreliable;35506473]What's that really gay duet band? They're scene and everything. Scene kids love them, and they make electronic kind of music? I feel like someone mentioned them just a few pages back and someone else said they hated them with a fiery passion.[/QUOTE] last band I remember a band being mentioned and someone hating it was meshuggah but that's neither a duet nor scene nor electronic it is really gay though [editline]10th April 2012[/editline] someone mentioned design the skyline which is gay and scene but not electronic or duet
Only (gayish) electric duo that has something to do with guitars i can recall is Whourkr, but i doubt anyone has mentioned it here. [video=youtube;zQ1-QbaVh00]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ1-QbaVh00[/video]
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;35504740] Also, I need a list of some famous bass rigs. Stuff that was fuzzy or distorted but still very articulate.[/QUOTE] Whenever Cliff Burton had his stuff distorted, it was pretty clear. On Kill Em All, he apparently used a Boss CS-1 or 2 to a Chrome Tel-Ray Morley Power Wah Boost/Chrome Tel-Ray Morley Power Wah Fuzz, to a Big Muff. For Ride The Lightning and Master Of Puppets it was apparently the same pedals besides the Big Muff, which was changed to a Tubescreamer 808. As for amps, it was apparently a Randall for Kill Em All, with a 2x18" cabinet, which is kinda unusual. I dunno what was used for the albums after.
[QUOTE=dcalde78;35509467] As for amps, it was apparently a Randall for Kill Em All, with a 2x18" cabinet, which is kinda unusual. I dunno what was used for the albums after.[/QUOTE] Im pretty sure he started using atleast Mesas Cabinets. Some say he used Mesas heads too, others say he used Ampegs
Both, according to the wiki page I think.
Sold off my Jazz bass and Strat neck.
[QUOTE=Unreliable;35506473]What's that really gay duet band? They're scene and everything. Scene kids love them, and they make electronic kind of music? I feel like someone mentioned them just a few pages back and someone else said they hated them with a fiery passion.[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;4bEDM4bsfWg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bEDM4bsfWg[/video]
Look at all those colours.
[quote]Friend says Im still going for tubes since Joseph has a tube amp it may create an imbalanced sound if I go solid state I say I don't even understand how that would work in any way imbalanced? that makes no sense different sound? yeah, probably Friend says inferior sound the vox wont have an inferior sound [/quote] I literally cannot stand this man sometimes.
wear his skin
I admit; Maybe I'm a plebeian with no ear for tone. Sure, it's a possibility. I like to think I have an ear for music, though, and for my personal tastes, my solid state MG100HDFX sounds great to me. At least the clean channel does. So why do solid state amps get so much hate? Why are there tube nazis in the first place? I've played a lot of guitars through a lot of different amps, and while every amp is indeed different, different is how I describe tube amps compared to solid state, not better. It's just [I]different[/I]; Whether or not it is [I]preferable[/I] really depends on the individual amps being compared and the sound the player desires from the amp. I've gotten a lot of sounds out of my amp that I like a lot better than a lot of tube amps I've heard, and on the other hand, I've also heard a lot of tube amps with a certain overdrive tone that I like that I can't get out of mine. And then in the same communities and even the same discussions where people are dissing solid state amps in general, then they'll turn around and recommend or suggest a modeling amp to someone. I feel like there's at least a certain level of bullshit to the whole thing.
solid state is hated by people who don't understand what solid state amps do, that they are different from tube amps on many levels but not necessarily worse. you can't get that amazingly leveled and clear jazz chorus tone with a tube amp, just as you can't get that harmonically rich vox tone with a solid state amp. and modeling amps sound bad in general everyone knows that
I prefer solid state amps with piles of headroom. But I'm a bass player and I like to get the sound before the amp. I'm one of those that if I was a guitarist I'd just roll with some sort of preamp (Which in itself could be tube based for that distorting tube sound) or a modelling effects processor (Such as the Axe-FX) and carry around a full range powered speaker. And laugh as I watch the other guitarists lump in oversized 4x12s and tube heads. Guitarists just see the word "Modelling" or "Digital" and go ape shit because they won't even try newer incarnations. This stuff has got seriously good over the years. Line6's products haven't helped the perception of the technology but competition is good. I've shifted enough band gear in the past to get freaking sick of heavy amplifiers and crappy designed cabinets. So from a logistical point of view a nice kitted out pedal board wins before you even consider the amplifier for me. But it's all personal opinion anyway, you use what pleases your ear. Many people just prefer the way a driven tube sounds over a driven transistor.
I've had guitarists complement me on my tone saying it sounds nothing like "that solid state crap" I don't even own any tube amps, everything I've got is solid state except a compressor and preamp that I don't even use at shows
Yeah, while I do have a great appreciation for being fortunate enough to have this full stack, I have to admit, I never want to have to move this shit anywhere. Ever. I can barely carry one of the 4x12s by myself. The head's not as much of a weight problem, but it's difficult to carry due to shape. I mean gigging with this would be manual labor, asking friends to help me with this would be pulling a favor. It's like moving furniture. I might look into getting a more mobile configuration. Also having something smaller would be good because currently with this thing I can't go higher than volume 1 without rattling various things throughout the house.
i just use a little 30 watt
[QUOTE=thisispain;35516831]i just use a little 30 watt[/QUOTE] lately I've been getting away with a 100 watt head but I think 30 watts would really be pushing it for bass. I can get away with my 15 watt amp on guitar, that whole setup you can carry with one hand, which is pretty damn nice.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;35517892]lately I've been getting away with a 100 watt head but I think 30 watts would really be pushing it for bass. I can get away with my 15 watt amp on guitar, that whole setup you can carry with one hand, which is pretty damn nice.[/QUOTE] Roland DAC-15 is good. I am stuck using the modded Sunn SL-160 for bass and guitar though. [editline]10th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=thisispain;35516831]i just use a little 30 watt[/QUOTE] The Sunn has higher resistance wires so it is effectively a 30watt.
well yeah for bass definitely, going too small makes it sound like mud doesn't it.
my 15 watt is pretty crazy actually, it gets almost as loud as my 50 watt peavey [editline]10th April 2012[/editline] it rattles the windows if I use it in my house.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;35518738]my 15 watt is pretty crazy actually, it gets almost as loud as my 50 watt peavey [editline]10th April 2012[/editline] it rattles the windows if I use it in my house.[/QUOTE] I'd turn the roland up to full volume, gain, ect if I had earplugs. Don't wanna kill what is left of my hearing :v:
[QUOTE=PwnNoobsFtw;35513683][video=youtube;4bEDM4bsfWg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bEDM4bsfWg[/video][/QUOTE] Oh fuck, yep. There it is. That's exactly what I was looking for. God damn this sucks. [editline]10th April 2012[/editline] Well on the topic of tube vs solid state... I always love knowing that if I were to buy a 60's fender amp, it would've been assembled by a person who had learned how to do that task and put effort into it. I know it [U]really[/U] may sound dumb, but that drives some kind of an emotion in me to buy that amp. You guys probably think I'm nuts, but this music I listen to has made me a lot more spiritual regarding life. Also the whole 6 tabs of acid first time trip really helped..Not only that, but if I were to compare a tube vs solid state for what I want in my tone, I can't create a thick mid and bass with percussive treble like I can on my boogie. It's like a wall of sound that fills up any room. I usually slam the preamp and then slowly bring up the power tubes until it's just bearable for people to listen to. I always roll off the volume and tones on my guitar.
I love my amp, and I love it because it can't decide what it is. It is a 1991 Tubeworks MosValve RT-2100, it has a tube preamp section and a mosfet power amp. A lot of tone searchers kill for these amps because mosfets were only used for a short time as transistors became cheaper to make an amp with. It has that nice warmth and response thanks to the tube preamp. B.K. Butler was a nut, I don't know how he did it but the clean channel has a master and volume which is tweaked right will overdrive the pre amp tubes and actually create an overdriven channel with the preamp tubes. I have never heard of that, but what I love more is this amp was designed to mimic like an early 70's marshall amp with a boost in front of it. And it does have that nice fuzz type growl if you push it, and a spring reverb. Vox is using the same idea with their valvetronics series but it doesn't sound anywhere near as good.
I like what GK did with the fusion amplifiers, the tube preamp section on them can sound very nice.
Turns out I think I might buy a Line 6. SHOCKING. The LD400 to be precise. Nothing comes close to that power for the price and the 2 models that I'd use (Rock and Brit, Ampeg and Marshall respectively) sound pretty good. 2x10, tweeter, castor wheels, line out, headphone out, 3.5mm in. Good features, and it's less than £300.
I'm looking for a way to power my pedals without batteries. I have two pedals right now, and both need 9V DC, and one of them has specified amperage. Should I buy two adapters, or get one of those power stations? I figure a power station thing is more practical for when I get more pedals. What hould I look for?
[QUOTE=dcalde78;35524312]Turns out I think I might buy a Line 6. SHOCKING. The LD400 to be precise. Nothing comes close to that power for the price and the 2 models that I'd use (Rock and Brit, Ampeg and Marshall respectively) sound pretty good. 2x10, tweeter, castor wheels, line out, headphone out, 3.5mm in. Good features, and it's less than £300.[/QUOTE] If you can get a pod HD500. They're amazing for the price.
[QUOTE=mynames2long;35524513]I'm looking for a way to power my pedals without batteries. I have two pedals right now, and both need 9V DC, and one of them has specified amperage. Should I buy two adapters, or get one of those power stations? I figure a power station thing is more practical for when I get more pedals. What hould I look for?[/QUOTE] I have this thing called a one spot, lets you plug in five pedals to one outlet. It's really convenient. I only have the cables to power five pedals, but the website for the product says it supports up to twenty pedals.
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