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[QUOTE=Robbobin;37286616]booooooo. selling art is well hard. unless I actually sell something by the time I have my etsy bill, I'm going to take the shop down and work on a much bigger project to sell something, like a t-shirt design. there's a screen printers local to me that I could get 25 2-colour t-shirts for £165 which seems pretty good (£6.60 a shirt). I don't have £165 to invest and potentially waste but I figure if I spend a while making a really cool design I might be able to get 13 people to put money up front or at least promise they'll buy one for £13. Might even be worth doing a teeeeny tiny kickstarter or something.[/QUOTE] I get paid on the 1st. I'd love to have that llama still. Promise you'll sell it to me even if you take the store down? Unless someone gets to it first.
[QUOTE=draugur;37289161]I get paid on the 1st. I'd love to have that llama still. Promise you'll sell it to me even if you take the store down? Unless someone gets to it first.[/QUOTE] You want the llama?! How did I forget about this? ahaha. What did we agree to do?
A neat time-lapsey thing by this guy. Pretty impressive. The use of adjustment layers and whatnot is pretty interesting. [video=youtube;6W9LoAN2rpQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W9LoAN2rpQ[/video]
[QUOTE=Robbobin;37292277]You want the llama?! How did I forget about this? ahaha. What did we agree to do?[/QUOTE] Nothing that I know of. I'm just saying, it's an amazing piece that I'd love to own. :3
[QUOTE=Maloof?;37292606]A neat time-lapsey thing by this guy. Pretty impressive. The use of adjustment layers and whatnot is pretty interesting. [video=youtube;6W9LoAN2rpQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W9LoAN2rpQ[/video][/QUOTE] That's Alicexz [url]http://alicexz.deviantart.com/[/url]. I actually have that print on my wall haha
[QUOTE=draugur;37292778]Nothing that I know of. I'm just saying, it's an amazing piece that I'd love to own. :3[/QUOTE] Cool! I'll keep the store up for a while longer, I'm just feeling a little disappointed at it so far but I guess it's only been 4 days!
[QUOTE=Robbobin;37292827]Cool! I'll keep the store up for a while longer, I'm just feeling a little disappointed at it so far but I guess it's only been 4 days![/QUOTE] Perhaps it would be useful for a bunch of us to help each other out in terms of advertising? I don't mean telling people 'nobody will love you unless you buy this print'; I'm talking about some good old-fashioned networking. If we've all got Tumblrs, DeviantArt accounts, etc, a bunch of us could start linking to each other's stuff? Scratching each other's backs, as it were, but without the awkward heterosexual angst
Doesn't sound like a bad idea to me! Pretty much all of my 650 etsy views are originally from facebook and facepunch, from what I can gather from the stats, only like 25 views are actually directly from etsy and a dozen from tumblr/twitter (to be fair I hardly use twitter, and I've only had tumblr a week). This week I'm going go try and produce one cheap ~£5 drawing a day just to keep my views ticking along. I think as long as I make a new entry I can safely get 100-200 views (but yeah like I say it's only been going 4 days so it's impossible to know for sure). Besides letting this tick over, my plan is to spend a while producing a t-shirt design and work out a way of making the £160 investment in 25 shirts without risking a total loss... Not too sure what to do on that front, besides trying to convince 13 people to promise they'll pay £13 for the shirt (obviously having seen the finished design, just not applied to a t-shirt).
You know that this whole selling art thing isn't really easy and requires a lot of patience, right? Also, about that shirt thing: You're afraid to lose your money, but you should know that it's always a bet when you start a project like this. You can't just go around asking people "If I made something like this, would you buy it? Would you really buy it? Really really? Promise?". Also, if you want to take this seriously, then I suggest getting more money to invest. If not, then why don't you just try spreadshirt or something?
Yeah I guess you're right. I'm just feeling unadventurous since spending so much money on materials lately. I'll explore safer routes, thanks!
and I actually suggest you use society6. You can put posters and tshirts there, and the place doesn't look cheesy like the others
Try out Redbubble Rob, you've got nothing to lose and people will buy literally anything from there. Least discerning community I've ever come across. Cutesy animal things like you've been doing, they lap that stuff up. Personally I wouldn't like to "sell out" and start doing little things that pander to that kind of audience to scrape out a profit, but your stuff would go like hotcakes I reckon. I have made some money from people buying old shirt designs that I put up to buy myself, got a lump payment of like 25 bucks on paypal the other day. The profit per item is only a few quid, it's rubbish, but you invest nothing so it's probably worth your while if you're desperate to sell stuff. Plus you could link to wherever you're selling originals or whatever..
[t]http://www.deviantart.com/download/321851856/sci_fi_cat_lady_by_juniez-d5bmehc.png[/t] [t]http://www.deviantart.com/download/321940913/id_by_juniez-d5bob75.png[/t]
'nother quick doodle, still playing around with brushes. It's pretty neat how different brushes can radically change my workflow [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1925002/loose/doodlekaboodle.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Headcrab54;37297198]'nother quick doodle, still playing around with brushes. It's pretty neat how different brushes can radically change my workflow [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1925002/loose/doodlekaboodle.png[/img][/QUOTE] What sort of brush packs to you fellas use?
I make my own, way more fun that way
Scribbled some sci-fi wild west thingy last night. [IMG]http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/232/e/8/colorado_by_skoparov-d5bn19t.png[/IMG] I suck at drawing clothes.
It's great as usual Idk about those lens flare light bar things though Oh wait are they supposed to be like bullets? That makes so much more sense, they still look weird though and not like gunfire
[QUOTE=Robbobin;37292983]Doesn't sound like a bad idea to me! Pretty much all of my 650 etsy views are originally from facebook and facepunch, from what I can gather from the stats, only like 25 views are actually directly from etsy and a dozen from tumblr/twitter (to be fair I hardly use twitter, and I've only had tumblr a week). This week I'm going go try and produce one cheap ~£5 drawing a day just to keep my views ticking along. I think as long as I make a new entry I can safely get 100-200 views (but yeah like I say it's only been going 4 days so it's impossible to know for sure). Besides letting this tick over, my plan is to spend a while producing a t-shirt design and work out a way of making the £160 investment in 25 shirts without risking a total loss... Not too sure what to do on that front, besides trying to convince 13 people to promise they'll pay £13 for the shirt (obviously having seen the finished design, just not applied to a t-shirt).[/QUOTE] I think you should focus on creating more art rather than trying to sell it straight away and make money fast, its not an easy thing trying to sell your art and as said before requires a lot of patience, before taking the plunge and spending lots of money printing your art onto t-shirts, you should first make sure that there is a demand for your art, then when you get more attention start moving up onto t-shirts etc artists like Godmachine do this, at first he started working on smaller self initiated work and band related stuff (album art/posters) and eventually moved onto merch for clothing companies and band t shirts because people started buying his prints like hot cakes! [URL="http://deadmetalclothing.bigcartel.com/"] Prints and Posters [/URL] [URL="http://godmachinedesigns.blogspot.co.uk/2011/09/new-disturbia-range-is-out-and-i.html"]Merch designs[/URL] I think Godmachine screen prints most of his work which is an awesome way to bump up prices, I wouldn't be as willing to pay as much for a digital print, I really want a Godmachine print they just often sell out really fast :( also if you were going to sell t-shirts [URL="http://bigcartel.com/"]bigcartel.com[/URL] is a really awesome place to do it, hope this helps in anyway :)
[QUOTE=antianan;37298783]Scribbled some sci-fi wild west thingy last night. I suck at drawing clothes.[/QUOTE] The only problem I can see is her left foot's angle. To me, it looks kinda twisted. You can just fix that foot or [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/x6GZP.png[/IMG] It's still a masterpeice because I can't even draw anything nearly as half good as that.
it looks good but she seems to be chillaxing rather than being in a gun fight
[QUOTE=Whitewhale;37299385]I think you should focus on creating more art rather than trying to sell it straight away and make money fast, its not an easy thing trying to sell your art and as said before requires a lot of patience, before taking the plunge and spending lots of money printing your art onto t-shirts, you should first make sure that there is a demand for your art, then when you get more attention start moving up onto t-shirts etc artists like Godmachine do this, at first he started working on smaller self initiated work and band related stuff (album art/posters) and eventually moved onto merch for clothing companies and band t shirts because people started buying his prints like hot cakes! [URL="http://deadmetalclothing.bigcartel.com/"] Prints and Posters [/URL] [URL="http://godmachinedesigns.blogspot.co.uk/2011/09/new-disturbia-range-is-out-and-i.html"]Merch designs[/URL] I think Godmachine screen prints most of his work which is an awesome way to bump up prices, I wouldn't be as willing to pay as much for a digital print, I really want a Godmachine print they just often sell out really fast :( also if you were going to sell t-shirts [URL="http://bigcartel.com/"]bigcartel.com[/URL] is a really awesome place to do it, hope this helps in anyway :)[/QUOTE] Really appreciating all this advise guys! I'm going to keep producing stuff to sell, just quite cheap and quite quick. Price wise, should I reduce any of the stuff that's already on? I was thinking I'll just add the stuff I'm producing atm at a much reduced cost (like the robot drawing I did for £7). I think I'm probably better off going for quantity at the moment, as much as possible. [editline]18th August 2012[/editline] [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7346219/Arts/New/robotwalker.jpg[/img] how much shall I put it on for?
Just to be an ass and party pooper I'll say this. I think your stuff has it's own style which I like robbobin, but most of the actual work is done by the nice paper rather than the drawings themselves. It's kind of like using grunge brushes or a paper overlay to texturize a drawing. It works and it makes even the worst shit look at least decent because the texture adds a lot. But a texture is only a texture and it only works for so long, after a while it becomes repetive and bland and the work itself rather than the foundation it's made on gets the focus. And quite frankly there isn't all that much to your drawings in my opinion. You draw, things. The dog one you referenced from is cute and I can definitely see an appeal to it, but the other drawings are just what they are and not much else. The quality of your drawings are so-so as well, it could really need a lot of improvement. Your motives could need more planning and interest put into them. And what's most important, if you're going to keep using a brown paper with a strong grain texture, make sure what you draw fits the mood. You can't just draw whatever on to it, because the paper has already set a specific mood. Earlier you wondered why everyone always uses white paper, and the reason is simple. First of all better quality paper with more texture costs more so it's usually not something people want to invest in. Second and most important of all, it gives all the focus to the drawing, the paper doesn't steal attention nor does it set any specific mood, everything becomes up to the drawing and how well you've done it. It can easily become bland though, which is why if you plan your motive and concept you can choose a paper type that fits the mood and technique you want to use which can enhance a drawing drastically. Plain paper also has the advantage of being the easiest one to scan and clean up digitally so you can digitally paint and colour it. Personally I'm getting kind of tired of your struggle to sell your stuff constantly buggering us about it, asking for interest, price and so on and so forth. I really don't think your drawings are really all that well planned and done. By all means I find some of your drawings really great, but not THAT great. They're like good doodles that are entertaining to watch, but nothing that has all that effort and planning to it that makes it an excellent piece of art I would want to look at for years to come on my wall. If you want to sell your art then I suggest going to sites dedicated to it and whore yourself out, advertising yourself, getting to know other artists, doing collabs and whatnot and get yourself known. You can't just pop out of nowhere and except to sell your stuff. All in all I've seen work 10x better planned and executed in here that I still wouldn't have bought.
[QUOTE=dgg;37300690]Just to be an ass and party pooper I'll say this. I think your stuff has it's own style which I like robbobin, but most of the actual work is done by the nice paper rather than the drawings themselves. It's kind of like using grunge brushes or a paper overlay to texturize a drawing. It works and it makes even the worst shit look at least decent because the texture adds a lot. But a texture is only a texture and it only works for so long, after a while it becomes repetive and bland and the work itself rather than the foundation it's made on gets the focus. And quite frankly there isn't all that much to your drawings in my opinion. You draw, things. The dog one you referenced from is cute and I can definitely see an appeal to it, but the other drawings are just what they are and not much else. The quality of your drawings are so-so as well, it could really need a lot of improvement. Your motives could need more planning and interest put into them. And what's most important, if you're going to keep using a brown paper with a strong grain texture, make sure what you draw fits the mood. You can't just draw whatever on to it, because the paper has already set a specific mood. Earlier you wondered why everyone always uses white paper, and the reason is simple. First of all better quality paper with more texture costs more so it's usually not something people want to invest in. Second and most important of all, it gives all the focus to the drawing, the paper doesn't steal attention nor does it set any specific mood, everything becomes up to the drawing and how well you've done it. It can easily become bland though, which is why if you plan your motive and concept you can choose a paper type that fits the mood and technique you want to use which can enhance a drawing drastically. Plain paper also has the advantage of being the easiest one to scan and clean up digitally so you can digitally paint and colour it. Personally I'm getting kind of tired of your struggle to sell your stuff constantly buggering us about it, asking for interest, price and so on and so forth. I really don't think your drawings are really all that well planned and done. By all means I find some of your drawings really great, but not THAT great. They're like good doodles that are entertaining to watch, but nothing that has all that effort and planning to it that makes it an excellent piece of art I would want to look at for years to come on my wall. If you want to sell your art then I suggest going to sites dedicated to it and whore yourself out, advertising yourself, getting to know other artists, doing collabs and whatnot and get yourself known. You can't just pop out of nowhere and except to sell your stuff. All in all I've seen work 10x better planned and executed in here that I still wouldn't have bought.[/QUOTE] Thanks dgg, a lot to think about. I'll make sure whatever comes next is a much higher standard.
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My 1st attempt at coloring something I didn't ink : [IMG]http://uppix.net/f/7/0/99b03f991ad5450ece43a1e3ca338.png[/IMG]
Hey everyone ! Here is something I made during this year : [url=http://uppix.net/0/4/0/61178807a04e82951d135a335a00b.html][img]http://uppix.net/0/4/0/61178807a04e82951d135a335a00btt.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://uppix.net/0/b/e/a936d4d7b6f044156d0d76ddb39d3.html][img]http://uppix.net/0/b/e/a936d4d7b6f044156d0d76ddb39d3tt.jpg[/img][/url] I used Dear Esther as a reference for the first one. (Clic for HD /!\ über resolution)
There's a populare swedish blondie in my hometown, so I made this to her [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/T7DDk.jpg[/IMG]
Yeah you sent me that on steam and i told you that it's awkward. [editline]19th August 2012[/editline] The head looks huge and doesn't fit the body. [editline]19th August 2012[/editline] Also creepy.
Nah thats not the problem The problem is that it is just a silly photoshop
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