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Rusty, I have a question for you. What was Basic like for you when you entered the Army? Did you have any different treatment being that you'd already been through Marine basic?
Any idea why medications like paxil and the like are so looked down upon in the military branches? I was looking at joining the USAF, but when I was talking to a recruiter online they said I was ineligible because of the meds I take for something I no longer really suffer from. Was diagnosed with panic disorder years ago and I am still on the meds but dont really need them anymore.
[QUOTE=imarawrus;33598808]Rusty, I have a question for you. What was Basic like for you when you entered the Army? Did you have any different treatment being that you'd already been through Marine basic?[/QUOTE] I was Navy not a Marine. Although I did have to go through Marine training since I was a Doc. As for switching branches, I had to go through a program called "WTC"(Warrior Transition Course). It's bootcamp for guys with prior service time but we were in the same place as all the new booters. Our ranks were from E-3 PFCs to E-7 SFCs(from various prior military backgrounds ranging from Navy Seals, Operation Desert Storm vets, Marines, AirForce, regular Navy, and prior Army looking to get back into the military). A lot of guys with 10x the experience of those piece of shit Army DIs. They(our drill sergeants) pretty much treated us like shit(yeah I know that's what they are supposed to do but this was under different circumstances, we weren't dumbass new privates) and would constantly show their disdain for us. They didn't want to have anything to do with us and were pissed that they got stuck having to "babysit" prior service guys because they only wanted to drill new recruits. I learned almost nothing while going through it. While I was there our training seemed half-assed and incredibly unorganized. After finishing that I went to my actual MOS training(more bootcamp) as an M1A2 tank crewman, there were 14 of us prior service guys there. Again they didn't want to have anything to do with us so we didn't learn much until we got to our unit. To sum it all up: -Treated like shit, low moral throughout the ranks, unorganized and half-assed training -Unlike the Navy/Marines, there never seemed to be any pride/honor in anything we did.. we were just kind of "there" The difference for me was that when I was still a Doc I had earned the right to wear both my Navy and Marine uniforms and I was proud to be in. Now in the Army, not so much....
[QUOTE=-Rusty-;33609085]I was Navy not a Marine. Although I did have to go through Marine training since I was a Doc. As for switching branches, I had to go through a program called "WTC"(Warrior Transition Course). It's bootcamp for guys with prior service time but we were in the same place as all the new booters. Our ranks were from E-3 PFCs to E-7 SFCs(from various prior military backgrounds ranging from Navy Seals, Operation Desert Storm vets, Marines, AirForce, regular Navy, and prior Army looking to get back into the military). A lot of guys with 10x the experience of those piece of shit Army DIs. They(our drill sergeants) pretty much treated us like shit(yeah I know that's what they are supposed to do but this was under different circumstances, we weren't dumbass new privates) and would constantly show their disdain for us. They didn't want to have anything to do with us and were pissed that they got stuck having to "babysit" prior service guys because they only wanted to drill new recruits. I learned almost nothing while going through it. While I was there our training seemed half-assed and incredibly unorganized. After finishing that I went to my actual MOS training(more bootcamp) as an M1A2 tank crewman, there were 14 of us prior service guys there. Again they didn't want to have anything to do with us so we didn't learn much until we got to our unit. To sum it all up: -Treated like shit, low moral throughout the ranks, unorganized and half-assed training -Unlike the Navy/Marines, there never seemed to be any pride/honor in anything we did.. we were just kind of "there" The difference for me was that when I was still a Doc I had earned the right to wear both my Navy and Marine uniforms and I was proud to be in. Now in the Army, not so much....[/QUOTE] Interesting. I guess the Army kinda sucks.
Oh my bad, I must have misread. That sounds pretty shitty. I was hoping to hear you would have garnered more respect being that you'd already "proved your worth" for lack of a better term. That's pretty fucking lame.
Yeah I know... that's what I was also expecting.
Apparently Australia is getting a Marine corps equivalent.
[QUOTE=kenshin6;33608565]Any idea why medications like paxil and the like are so looked down upon in the military branches? I was looking at joining the USAF, but when I was talking to a recruiter online they said I was ineligible because of the meds I take for something I no longer really suffer from. Was diagnosed with panic disorder years ago and I am still on the meds but dont really need them anymore.[/QUOTE] It doesn't matter if you don't think you need them. The Psychiatrist thinks you need them and they're the professional. The reason they decline people who are prescribed to certain medications/have certain diagnoses is because of Psychiatric Issues. How are you going to handle stress if you can't take your medication? The military is very stressful and they want to be sure you can adapt and overcome that stress. If you get off your medication and prove you can function without it for a year, then you should be able to get a waiver.
If you were in Recon, would you still be called a pog? Or does the definition of grunt also cover recon?
do they do a job in the field if yes: not a pog if no: pog
pog 4 lyfe.
Finally went to a recruiter and had all of my questions answered. Looks like I have to start earning college credits, and I have 3 so far :v:
[QUOTE=Glitch360;33618890]If you were in Recon, would you still be called a pog? Or does the definition of grunt also cover recon?[/QUOTE] Nope, not at all. Infact, some of the combat engineers that worked with us we're 'redeemed' out of POG status, because they are out there with us finding IEDs at the front and getting shot at. Good times.
Well I got medically discharged 9 weeks into basic.
[QUOTE=Reserved Parkin;33621210]Nope, not at all. Infact, some of the combat engineers that worked with us we're 'redeemed' out of POG status, because they are out there with us finding IEDs at the front and getting shot at. Good times.[/QUOTE] lol every time our combat engineers went outside the wire they got hit by an ied(which was almost daily)
[QUOTE=jaredop;33621550]Well I got medically discharged 9 weeks into basic.[/QUOTE] dont worry my brother pussied out / med discharged from usaf basic on the 1st real day of training when they got shots
[QUOTE=-Rusty-;33621597]lol every time our combat engineers went outside the wire they got hit by an ied(which was almost daily)[/QUOTE] Yep, ours too. Mad respect to them yo. I've been the metal detector guy at the front for a bit. Dug up a pressure release IED. That shit was one of the most scariest things I've done, because If i even moved the rock even a centimeter, I would not be here in this world today.
[QUOTE=Reserved Parkin;33622311]Yep, ours too. Mad respect to them yo. I've been the metal detector guy at the front for a bit. Dug up a pressure release IED. That shit was one of the most scariest things I've done, because If i even moved the rock even a centimeter, I would not be here in this world today.[/QUOTE] i salute you [editline]7th December 2011[/editline] after posting that it sounds sarcastic its not, thank you for your service
[QUOTE=W0w00t;33622581]i salute you [editline]7th December 2011[/editline] after posting that it sounds sarcastic its not, thank you for your service[/QUOTE] Your welcome. lol, sounds ok to me. It's hard to be nice on these forums, sarcasm is like the primary language here I found out. Can't take too many things seriously. :v:
Visited the Marine recruiter yesterday. Marines really know how to make a presentation and I was thoroughly impressed. I'm going to go ahead and start working with them to get the ball rolling on getting my spot onto the DEP.
[QUOTE=Jim_Riley;33626704]Visited the Marine recruiter yesterday. Marines really know how to make a presentation and I was thoroughly impressed. I'm going to go ahead and start working with them to get the ball rolling on getting my spot onto the DEP.[/QUOTE]Yeah man, I was impressed by how complete their answers were. They knew everything I asked them without hesitation, pretty good inspiration to joining if you ask me.
[QUOTE=W0w00t;33621636]dont worry my brother pussied out / med discharged from usaf basic on the 1st real day of training when they got shots[/QUOTE] I didn't pussy out, I got screwed. They found out I have tachycardia and discharged me for it, even though I had a waiver for it.
Had a nice run today at Future Soldier training, but man do I fucking HATE running in cold weather.
6 months and 12 college credits till I can join the Marines... this is going to be an excruciating 6 months....
So I finally got my ASVAB scores, my AFQT score is 88 and my line scores are almost all in the 60s. The Army is offering me a job as a 68W medic, but after reading what you guys have been saying it makes me think my future would be better off in the Navy if they would accept me as a corpsman. I really don't know where to go from here, I mean the military is basically my future and I don't want to fuck it up with a bad decision.
[QUOTE=jaredop;33630414]I didn't pussy out, I got screwed. They found out I have tachycardia and discharged me for it, even though I had a waiver for it.[/QUOTE] what. lame. [editline]8th December 2011[/editline] if you had a wavier why'd they do it
Looking for anyway to get people out
Don't forget, if you are KIA, you may end up in a landfill. Just saying. [url]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/12/08/air-force-criticized-in-handling-troop-remains/[/url]
[QUOTE=Ese;33634043]Don't forget, if you are KIA, you may end up in a landfill. Just saying. [url]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/12/08/air-force-criticized-in-handling-troop-remains/[/url][/QUOTE] That doesn't really bother me, I'll be dead, why would I give a shit?
[QUOTE=Uprising901;33633148]So I finally got my ASVAB scores, my AFQT score is 88 and my line scores are almost all in the 60s. The Army is offering me a job as a 68W medic, but after reading what you guys have been saying it makes me think my future would be better off in the Navy if they would accept me as a corpsman. I really don't know where to go from here, I mean the military is basically my future and I don't want to fuck it up with a bad decision.[/QUOTE] Navy Medicine is widely regarded as the best military medicine. You'll have more career paths and choices as a Hospital Corpsman rather then if you were a whiskey. The thing with the Navy is that in the enlisted medical field you must be a Hospital Corpsman before you can do anything else, like if you wanted to go to Respiratory Therapy School, X Ray school, Behavioral Health School, or Preventive Medicine school to name a few you'd have to complete Hospital Corps school first. I'm down at Fort Sam where they train the Whiskey's and it's more or less you're just a line medic and you can't take specialties, because in the Army there aren't any specialties. If you go to Behavioral Health school you're a BHT, if you go to Surgical Assistant school you're just a Surgical Tech. In the Navy you'd be a Hospital Corpsman AND a Behavioral Health Technician for instance. Let me break it down.. Army - 68W Line Medic Navy - Hospital Corpsman 0000, Behavioral Health Technician 8485 and 8404 Field Medical Technician I mean if you want to do that gung ho shit yeah I suggest being a Corpsman. After Corps School you might have the ability to go to Field Medical Training Batallion which more or less allows you to be a Medic for the Marine Corps. If you want to be extra special you can become a Hospital Corpsman, a Preventive Medicine Technician (for example), and a Marine Corpsman. Or if you want to go extra gung ho you can be a Recon Corpsman 8403. You wouldn't be able to do that in the Army. If you were to just be a regular ass run of the mill Hospital Corpsman you'd be working in one of our major Naval Hospitals all over the world. Naval Hospitals are a good experience too, you wouldn't be able to do that in the Army. You'd most likely get deployed to luxorious Afghanistan or Kuwait. Make no mistake though, no matter what branch you join you will most likely be deployed. Especially if you decide to be an 8404 Corpsman (Marine Medic). In the end though, it's up to you to decide which branch you want to join. Of course you'd say I have a bias since I'm a Hospital Corpsman but I train with the Army and Air Force and I hear almost every other day a soldier say how they wish they would have joined the Navy instead. With all that being said though the Navy does it differently at MEPS. Whichever job they offer you is dependent on the needs of the Navy, but the Hospital Corpsman field is a big field. So they'll most likely have a bunch of Corpsman positions open if you ask them. The only downside to being in this field is that it's harder to rank up because they're so damn many of us. It's still a good field to get into, education wise. You get about 14 college credits for completion as Corps School(even more if you take aditional schooling) and the ability to register as a Basic EMT. That's my two cents on the matter.
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