• The "Which camera is right for me?" thread V2 - Get a used Rebel
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I think I'm gonna write up a thread about all the different types of film, cameras, formats, etc
Would one of these be a good remote flash trigger? Does this come with both the transmitter and receiver? [url]http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Yongnuo-RF-603-Flash-Trigger-Canon-1000D-550D-500D-/160616016049?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item256575e8b1[/url] I've got a 550D using a 430EX II.
The Yongnuo RF-603 from the reviews I have read are pretty reliable. They work as transceivers so you don't need a specific transmitter and receiver, any two units will work together and you get two in the box. The camera specific listings are for the shutter release cable so you can use them as a remote control too.
How is the D3100 as a beginner's camera? I was planning to buy a camcorder for my birthday for £260, but if I can pay an extra £100 to get a good camera with similar if not better video capabilities, that's a good deal right? I've also seen the 500D for a similar price, but refurbished and with a lot less warranty, is that better than the D3100?
[url]http://www.amazon.com/Canon-Digital-Rebel-XT-f3-5-5-6/product-reviews/B0007QKN22/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_1?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addOneStar[/url] Used, yes? I love photography and I want to get a camera that will get me started well in it.
Only if you're getting one hell of a deal on it. What used price are you looking at?
okay I've decided I'm gonna get the Nikon D3100 - should I get it from some ebay store with really high ratings or should I pay £25 more and get it from Amazon? This is the ebay store by the way: [url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nikon-D3100-Body-18-55mm-VR-Lens-Kit-UV-/130534436847?pt=UK_CamerasPhoto_DigitalCameras_DigitalCameras_JN&hash=item1e64756fef[/url]
[QUOTE=Alcapwne;31531107]okay I've decided I'm gonna get the Nikon D3100 - should I get it from some ebay store with really high ratings or should I pay £25 more and get it from Amazon? This is the ebay store by the way: [url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nikon-D3100-Body-18-55mm-VR-Lens-Kit-UV-/130534436847?pt=UK_CamerasPhoto_DigitalCameras_DigitalCameras_JN&hash=item1e64756fef[/url][/QUOTE] If you are looking on using the camera for videos or ever want to use a DSLR for videos why the hell are you going Nikon? If you are going to use a DSLR for video the absolute minimum you want is a 550d. The D3100 is ok for basic stuff but pales in comparison to the canon video capabilities. Also the D5100, D7000 etc still have worse video capabilities than a 550d.
[QUOTE=B-hazard;31531413]If you are looking on using the camera for videos or ever want to use a DSLR for videos why the hell are you going Nikon? If you are going to use a DSLR for video the absolute minimum you want is a 550d. The D3100 is ok for basic stuff but pales in comparison to the canon video capabilities. Also the D5100, D7000 etc still have worse video capabilities than a 550d.[/QUOTE] The 550D is out of my budget, and I checked video tests on youtube and the D3100 looks great. It looks a bit better than the camcorder I was planning to get anyway - I don't need something amazing for video or photo, just starting out right now :v: I know Canon is better for video but I'm on a budget and have to compromise
[QUOTE=Alcapwne;31531477]The 550D is out of my budget, and I checked video tests on youtube and the D3100 looks great. It looks a bit better than the camcorder I was planning to get anyway - I don't need something amazing for video or photo, just starting out right now :v: I know Canon is better for video but I'm on a budget and have to compromise[/QUOTE] The quality is good, but you can barely control the video on the D3100. Save up and get a 550d, as when it comes to upgrading and you wan't something better for both filming/photography, you will likely luck out on the Nikon side. I am by no means saying that Nikon make bad cameras, it's just that for video Canon is the clear winner.
[QUOTE=B-hazard;31531550]The quality is good, but you can barely control the video on the D3100. Save up and get a 550d, as when it comes to upgrading and you wan't something better for both filming/photography, you will likely luck out on the Nikon side. I am by no means saying that Nikon make bad cameras, it's just that for video Canon is the clear winner.[/QUOTE] I know Canon is better for video, but like I said, I'm on a budget and I don't wanna spend much more money on this hobby before I know I really like it. Plus, I read a lot of reviews and saw a lot of videos and everyone seems to say that the D3100s video is really good, particularly because of the new continuous autofocus in video mode which is pretty new for Nikon
[QUOTE=Alcapwne;31531650]I know Canon is better for video, but like I said, I'm on a budget and I don't wanna spend much more money on this hobby before I know I really like it. Plus, I read a lot of reviews and saw a lot of videos and everyone seems to say that the D3100s video is really good, particularly because of the new continuous autofocus in video mode which is pretty new for Nikon[/QUOTE] Yeah but the continuous autofocus in videomode is a joke It constantly tries to refocus which gives you shoddy images
[QUOTE=DoubleDD;31532020]Yeah but the continuous autofocus in videomode is a joke It constantly tries to refocus which gives you shoddy images[/QUOTE] what do you mean shoddy images? like, out of focus or poor image quality or what? thanks
[QUOTE=Alcapwne;31532454]what do you mean shoddy images? like, out of focus or poor image quality or what? thanks[/QUOTE] It constantly moves in and out of focus, which looks really amateur. Learn to love manual focus for good looking video.
[QUOTE=Xera;31532702]It constantly moves in and out of focus, which looks really amateur. Learn to love manual focus for good looking video.[/QUOTE] Ah right, thanks
Save up and you won't regret it. Where do you live? The other one can't be much more expensive...
It's funny how people tend to cross-talk about subjects in all of the threads.
[QUOTE=The Un-Men;31534063]Save up and you won't regret it. Where do you live? The other one can't be much more expensive...[/QUOTE] It's not really a matter of saving up, I can afford the 550D at the moment, I'm just not sure I'm willing to spend so much money on photography/movie making until I know that I really really enjoy it. I'm getting the D3100 kit with 18-55mm AF lens for £375, and the equivalent 550D kit would be £100 more :(
[QUOTE=Alcapwne;31535626]It's not really a matter of saving up, I can afford the 550D at the moment, I'm just not sure I'm willing to spend so much money on photography/movie making until I know that I really really enjoy it. I'm getting the D3100 kit with 18-55mm AF lens for £375, and the equivalent 550D kit would be £100 more :([/QUOTE] D3100 is useless for video, literally the only control you have over it is the focus. If you really need to do that get a 1000d and lenses, then buy a 550d body when you can upgrade. It's a much better idea to just get a 550d though.
Tbh Alcapwne, I own the D3100 and I love it. And a lot of people seem to be bagging on its video more than they should - the continuous autofocus isn't actually [i]that[/i] bad (you realize you AREN'T supposed to hold down the shutter release, right?) and the quality is decent. However, they do make a point. Canon has a very solid hold on the DSLR video market. You may not have continuous autofocus but the overall experience is, from what I hear, better. Going with Nikon for the sake of video isn't necessarily a [i]bad[/i] decision, but it is [i]risky[/i]. You're betting that when you want to upgrade to a higher level camera for better video capability that whatever Nikon cameras available at that time will have competitive video - as it stands, Canon still beats them out, and Nikon is only catching up very slowly. You sound very well set on the D3100 - for that reason I suggest going to a camera store, Walmart, or any other place that sells cameras to see if you can try out the D3100 and the 550D. See which feels better in your hands, which control layout you like, what build feels better to you. Make your decision there. As a beginner, Nikon's video will likely still do what you need. If you choose to go Nikon, hopefully by the time you upgrade they will have caught up enough with video quality and control to be considered "competitive" with Canon. You are essentially choosing between the "safe" video system and one that may or may not catch up for a while. There's speculation that Nikon will be revealing new cameras in August - the video capabilities of these may provide insight into whether Nikon's video is catching up yet or not. Only time will really tell how long it will be before Nikon catches up to Canon.
[QUOTE=B-hazard;31535658]D3100 is useless for video, literally the only control you have over it is the focus. If you really need to do that get a 1000d and lenses, then buy a 550d body when you can upgrade. It's a much better idea to just get a 550d though.[/QUOTE] 1000D can't do video - his main reason for buying it.
Oh I just remembered, you could buy a cheapo GH1/GF1, have better video quality than the Canon and still experiment with photo. Just sayin'
if you go to any of the walmarts here you find a 3100 body with no battery to see features, nor a lens, and smudges alllll over the mirror and focusing screen and greasy smudges on the shutter leaves behind it all and I don't even want to try opening the shutter to see what's behind it. I hate grubby kids who have to touch EVERYGODDAMNTHING
Any answers to my original question - should I buy my camera from this ebay store: [url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nikon-D3100-Body-18-55mm-VR-Lens-Kit-UV-/130534436847?pt=UK_CamerasPhoto_DigitalCameras_DigitalCameras_JN&hash=item1e64756fef[/url] Or pay £25 more and get it from somewhere reliable like Jessops or Amazon?
lots of positive feedback on it, I think it's probably legit. only thing that bugs me: [quote]Condition: New: A brand-new, unused, unopened and undamaged item in original retail packaging (where packaging is applicable). If the item comes direct from a manufacturer, it may be delivered in non-retail packaging, such as a plain or unprinted box or plastic bag. See the seller's listing for full details[/quote] It's new and unopened, with its original box!* *may not come in box *may come in a different box *may ship in a box that is not the original
[QUOTE=daijitsu;31540452]lots of positive feedback on it, I think it's probably legit. only thing that bugs me: It's new and unopened, with its original box!* *may not come in box *may come in a different box *may ship in a box that is not the original[/QUOTE] hmm yeah but I think that might just be ebay's standard description for new items a friend of mine was telling me about warranty and 'manufacturer defects' - [quote]DCtrade Warranty (DCW) Covers the following aspects: Manufacturer Defects (Known issues caused by particular product and various other ailments that can cause product to malfunction) Items arriving damaged on arrival (it is our responsibility to ensure items are packed well before shipment) Replacement of item if necessary[/quote] He said something like, manufacturer defects is a sort of loophole that means that any problems have to be checked by Nikon themselves, who rarely accept that they're in fault or something so the warranty is pointless, something like that... have you had any experience of this? Thanks
[QUOTE=daijitsu;31540452]lots of positive feedback on it, I think it's probably legit. only thing that bugs me: Condition Quote It's new and unopened, with its original box!* *may not come in box *may come in a different box *may ship in a box that is not the original[/QUOTE] Yeah, that bugs me too. And especially if it doesn't come in the original box, it may not have the proper warranty. I'd go for the extra £25 just to be safe and ensure you're getting the warranty. I'm pretty sure Nikon doesn't even ship warranty cards or whatever with their cameras, the information is given to them from the retailer. Might be a little fudgy with an eBay seller. [editline]Edit[/editline] Nikon's customer support is a bit iffy at times, but I don't know of any instances where they've abused that loophole. I think it's more of an ass-covering thing than an exploitable thing.
haven't had issues with buying stuff online, except for when I was collecting various models and decided to buy the ones that were suspiciously cheaper hand re-molded and recast in crap rubber, then hand-painted by a retarded child if you buy it from that ebay store and it ends up being made of clay, don't say I didn't tell ya so but seriously I don't think there's too much of an issue with the store, but the drop in price is kind of iffy. I'd rather put my money into a more local business than send it off to god-knows-where. I know it's kind of ironic me saying that as an american, but that's probably all the more reason for me to want to keep cash local, especially right now.
[QUOTE=Skyhawk;31528025]Only if you're getting one hell of a deal on it. What used price are you looking at?[/QUOTE] $360.00.
My personal advice would be to save up some more and get a newer camera (used if you like.) $360 for something as old as the XT doesn't seem like the best deal. I'm not experienced with Canon so I don't necessarily know the best options, but the XT just looks so old it might be disappointing. I do know KEH.com is supposed to be a very reputable dealer. What about this combo? [url]http://www.keh.com/camera/Canon-Digital-Camera-Bodies/1/sku-DC029991067180?r=FE[/url] [url]http://www.keh.com/camera/Canon-Digital-Zoom-Lenses/1/sku-DC07999121640N?r=FE[/url] The XS body (1000D) is newer and better, and so is that lens. Only about $100 more total. Can someone else here who knows Canon help itsDivine out a little more?
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