Don't know if this debate was done before, but I'll start one in the hope of getting a conclusive answer on the topic. Relationships boyfriends and girlfriends. Is it easier for a girl to get a boyfriend or is it easier for a guy to get a girlfriend.
In my opinion I think it's easier for a girl to get a guy. Of course it may be a bias, but guys have to do so many things in order to get a girl. The girl just has to have some sort of looks, and just say "Well I want this guy or not." So let the conclusion be devolved by Facepunch !
Generally the guy is the aggressor so to speak, the one to first talk to and continue on talking, and in some instances, talk first, ask out, pay for shit, plan shit (sometimes), and overall just start everything. So I'd say girls have it easy as shit.
I think it's easier for girls, but then again I might be a bit biased.
I think in general, it's always easier for a girl to get a boyfriend than for a guy to get a girlfriend.
If a guy is ugly, the girls might not go for him.
If a girl is ugly, she can go for the ugly guys.
I agree with above statements. Because it is easier the girl just waits for the guy unless your ugly in which case bad luck.
I would say it is easier for the girls as if a guy is too keen clearly they think your after sex.
If you take a large sample it's probably equal for both.
[quote]The girl just has to have some sort of looks, and just say "Well I want this guy or not."[/quote]
This is a pretty sexist way of looking at it and it definitely isn't true.
[QUOTE=Sh33p;34338593]If you take a large sample it's probably equal for both.
This is a pretty sexist way of looking at it and it definitely isn't true.[/QUOTE]
Someone hasn't seen High School Musical.
No but honestly, I think it's different from person to person.
I think it really depends, but in general, girls have it slightly easier because they just have to wait for a guy to ask them out. If that doesn't happen, they can ask a guy out themselves, and society won't berate them as much as a guy who waits for a girl to ask him out.
It's harder for girls. You just said it yourselves. I girl typically only has to look good.
Women have more qualities that they value as much as, or even more, than looks.
Getting laid is not the same as having a relationship.
I think it's tougher for guys if they lack confidence. Not that I agree with it but typically the guy is the one who makes the first move, a guy who is lacking confidence is at a major disadvantage when girls expect him to approach them first. Girls of course usually need to present themselves well in order to attract attention but even some the fat and unattractive girls I went to school with seem to be doing alright.
I think in terms of 'asking out' the the socially awkward guy has a horrible time, but the confident guy has it easy. I've never seen a girl ask a guy out (I know it happens though).
Obviously it depends on the people involved (both male and female) but I reckon if you were to do a survey on hundreds of relationships, overall the guys would have a harder time than the girls.
Of course, it's hard to make a judgment because we (assuming most of the posters in this thread are male) can't see it from the woman's perspective.
In my experience from the two serious relationships I've had (I won't count the other, less serious ones) one girl was very shy and the other made a game of it, so I would say I had a harder time in both.
It's not harder for neither in the end.
Just answering the title question.
Girls are judged more than guys, especially with appearances, so it's only easy for a few and the rest have it rough.
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;34342211]It's not harder for neither in the end.
Just answering the title question.[/QUOTE]
This makes sense. After all, it takes two to have a relationship. :)
And if women have higher standards than men, then it goes both ways.
Men have to try harder to live up to the standards.
Women have to look harder for suitable men.
Stating an observed inequality between men and women /= sexism. In western society, women usually play the passive role in the process of starting up a new relationship, while men usually play the active role. This probably stems from the fact that young women have less of a sex drive than young men, which causes a few possible issues, from "he only wants to have sex with me" to "I can afford to be picky because I can basically pick and choose." This means that a guy looking for a relationship has to constantly take risks, whereas a girl doing the same just has to pick and choose. Obviously this is not a universal rule, but it holds true surprisingly often.
My own life contains both an example of this in play, and an exception to the rule. I was friends with my now-girlfriend for years before we started dating. I had a huge crush on her the entire time, but I didn't tell her simply because I was afraid of rejection, and happy enough just to be with her even as a friend. As it turned out she had a crush on me for a while too, but she assumed I wasn't interested since I didn't ever show any signs of being into her. After a long, LONG time she started having those feelings again and decided to go all-in and ask me out, defying the traditional gender roles.
So in short, starting a relationship is complicated, but because of the way our society is put together, most of the responsibility to act often falls upon the male.
I think the problem is that for a girl it's much harder to be rejected if she asks a guy out and makes her move, since most of the time the man will be willing to at least try something.
It's not that hard for a guy if he just has his balls dropped and is confident that he REALLY wants to spend time with the girl he's aiming for. I would probably do this more often if I only found someone interesting. Maybe my standards are too high, but I just don't see people that I want to know better.
Maybe I'm starting to get asexual, who knows. Just trying to contribute a bit.
Also, Paravin, I didn't know you were in Mass Debate.
Having helped lots of friendgirls with relationship problems, I'm pretty sure it's about equal.
I don't see how it's "hard" to get into relationships, maybe it's difficult if you have Asperger Syndrome and are crippled by the concept of spending time with someone you enjoy being with. Therefore this argument is flawed from the get-go.
An argument cannot be flawed at all. Your simply stating your facts, and contending it with another person. So all in all I don't see the point. Anyway your just simply saying your opinion the argument and debate was about is it easier for genders, not is it hard to get a relationship. To be honest quite frankly I think relationships have to due with confidence, and confidence comes with age. Which is why you see younger relationships just falling over on their faces, and older relationships lasting quite longer.
Maturity, and other factors determine these attributes I guess.
Probably the girl has it easiet. If a girl pinned a guy onto a bed randomly, he'd probably be ok with it and let it go.
If he pinned a girl to a bed however, it'd be crazy and probably get him bitched at.
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But that's a case-by-case thing
the concept of easiest confuses me.
how do we objectively say something is the easiest when no-one can be both genders at the same time?
Honestly in general I think girls have it easier, and in general they're more manipulative and able to control hormone filled teenagers (and adults) who think with their dicks.
However, the experience differs from person to person, there will be some guys who have it easier than some girls, it just depends on who you are.
[QUOTE=No Party Hats;34352193]
If he pinned a girl to a bed however, it'd be crazy and probably get him bitched at.[/QUOTE]
That's because that's a step towards sexual assault/rape.
Unwanted touch is unwanted touch.
You can't really just narrow it down like this.
[QUOTE=Flash;34337775]Don't know if this debate was done before, but I'll start one in the hope of getting a conclusive answer on the topic. Relationships boyfriends and girlfriends. Is it easier for a girl to get a boyfriend or is it easier for a guy to get a girlfriend.
In my opinion I think it's easier for a girl to get a guy. Of course it may be a bias, but guys have to do so many things in order to get a girl. The girl just has to have some sort of looks, and just say "Well I want this guy or not." So let the conclusion be devolved by Facepunch ![/QUOTE]
Girls can be less attractive and still have more luck. To give you an example, I'm not too bad looking and neither is my female friend. She does however have large breasts but she doesn't dress to show this off.
We both tried a dating site and she had 60 pages in her inbox after a few weeks. I had like 3 girls respond out of the many I messaged (None messaged me).
In short, in getting a companion, girls have it a lot easier. Plus, it's socially acceptable for girls to cover up their faults (Make-Up) but Men are expected to be muscular, fit, and be naturally good looking.
We're also expected to be financially well off because it's the social norm to pay for your girl's dinner, etc.
but plenty of girls have trouble finding a relationship.
the misconception here is that girls will go for just anyone which really just isn't true.
It's easier for attractive people.
It isn't 'easier' for either gender. It's solely based upon individuals and their traits.
However, I will say that it's easier for men to be involved in multiple relationships without being judged negatively by their peers.
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