• No-Porn Forever - are you a bad enough dude to reboot?
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[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35728128] And if you pull "it's okay to fap but not to porn", then I'm even more confused. I'm not a doctor, but I don't think your brain cares what you're aroused to as long as you're aroused. Functionally I don't see how fapping to porn is different than fapping without porn.[/QUOTE] Maybe it's just me, but in my opinion it makes more fun to fap without porn because I'm not only restricted to the things that happen in porn. I can fantasize about whatever I want. Maybe it breaks the rules from the op but at least I don't need to watch porn anymore. [QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35728128] I just don't get it. And then you assume that people will call you an idiot, and for what? I just don't get it.[/QUOTE] Well that's just your opinion. You don't have to do the things the people here say. Do what you like to do but try it without porn. Maybe once a week or once a month but not daily.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35728128][b]I know I shouldn't keep coming back to this thread. [/b] -Snipped text, because who cares-[/QUOTE] Ok. But who cares. I'm doing this for fun and because this thread is like a highschool dare.
[QUOTE=Lord_Schrotty;35728212]Maybe it's just me, but in my opinion it makes more fun to fap without porn because I'm not only restricted to the things that happen in porn. I can fantasize about whatever I want. Maybe it breaks the rules from the op but at least I don't need to watch porn anymore.[/quote] Are you really telling me that your fantasies are so bizarre that you can't find porn for them-? Whatever, the point is, [I]that's not any different than watching porn.[/I] Porn and a sufficiently vivid imagination are functionally identical. What exactly have you gained? The two minutes it takes to search for whatever fetish it is you're feeling for? [Quote]Well that's just your opinion. You don't have to do the things the people here say. Do what you like to do but try it without porn. Maybe once a week or once a month but not daily.[/QUOTE] [I]Why?[/I] Why would anyone do that? What is the [I]point?[/I] Why does it matter if I do it every day, once a week, or once a month? What does it matter if I'm looking at sex while doing it or imagining sex while doing it? Where did any of these rules come from, and why, and for what purpose? Maybe I had a boring growing up, but most of my interaction with my friends didn't include dares involving our genitals. Maybe I'm the freak, but I find movies more fun.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35728314][I]Why?[/I] Why would anyone do that? What is the [I]point?[/I] Why does it matter if I do it every day, once a week, or once a month? What does it matter if I'm looking at sex while doing it or imagining sex while doing it? Where did any of these rules come from, and why, and for what purpose?[/QUOTE] If you don't see any reason to do this then just don't do it. I personally feel better after the first week without porn. I don't even want it anymore. It just bores me to watch porn.
[QUOTE=Lord_Schrotty;35728343]If you don't see any reason to do this then just don't do it. I personally feel better after the first week without porn. I don't even want it anymore. It just bores me to watch porn.[/QUOTE] Come back to me in a week. Then a week after that. Then maybe the month after that. Perhaps even a year, or more. You'll want it at some point. Everyone does, it's a constant throughout all of human history. I'll tell you that Amazons weren't painted on vases out of an attempt to spread knowledge of their supposed culture. So tell me, [I]why bother trying to stop?[/I] Why talk at all about whether you feel like watching it or not? You'll watch it at some point in the future, so what's the point? It's like bragging about how you didn't go to the grocery store. The fact is banal, there's no accomplishment in it, and eventually you'll be going to the goddamn grocery store.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35728440]Come back to me in a week. Then a week after that. Then maybe the month after that. Perhaps even a year, or more. You'll want it at some point. Everyone does, it's a constant throughout all of human history. I'll tell you that Amazons weren't painted on vases out of an attempt to spread knowledge of their supposed culture. So tell me, [I]why bother trying to stop?[/I] Why talk at all about whether you feel like watching it or not? You'll watch it at some point in the future, so what's the point? It's like bragging about how you didn't go to the grocery store. The fact is banal, there's no accomplishment in it, and eventually you'll be going to the goddamn grocery store.[/QUOTE] Why should I watch it if it doesn't give me the pleasure I want to have? I never watched porn daily. Maybe once a week if I even watched anything. And yes I have to agree with you that I will watch it in the future. But how does that affect what I do today? I can still change my opinion. [editline]27th April 2012[/editline] And I don't want to say that all porn is bad. It's just that I don't really need it so I don't watch it.
[QUOTE=Lord_Schrotty;35728484]Why should I watch it if it doesn't give me the pleasure I want to have? I never watched porn daily. Maybe once a week if I even watched anything. And yes I have to agree with you that I will watch it in the future. But how does that affect what I do today? I can still change my opinion. [editline]27th April 2012[/editline] And I don't want to say that all porn is bad. It's just that I don't really need it so I don't watch it.[/QUOTE] but you just said that you watch porn i don't care how infrequently you do it, you do it. thereby completely bypassing the point of this thread. and obviously since you watch porn it gives you pleasure. otherwise you wouldn't watch it. So you're not only contradicting the entire idea behind "no porn forever", you're contradicting yourself. Twice. So yet again I must ask, what is the goddamn point? Why are you posting about not watching porn at this very moment? Who would care, and why? What do you get out of telling them if they do care? What discussions can arise from the topic other than "why is this a topic of discussion"? [I]Why does this thread exist?[/I]
count me in
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35728596]but you just said that you watch porn i don't care how infrequently you do it, you do it. thereby completely bypassing the point of this thread. and obviously since you watch porn it gives you pleasure. otherwise you wouldn't watch it. So you're not only contradicting the entire idea behind "no porn forever", you're contradicting yourself. Twice. So yet again I must ask, what is the goddamn point? Why are you posting about not watching porn at this very moment? Who would care, and why? What do you get out of telling them if they do care? What discussions can arise from the topic other than "why is this a topic of discussion"? [I]Why does this thread exist?[/I][/QUOTE] I said the last time i watched porn was about 1 or 2 weeks ago. I said I'll join this whole thing because I want to live without it. If I watch porn in 3 months maybe I changed my opinion so I don't really care anymore. And like I said it doesn't give me the pleasure I want to have. Whenever I fapped to porn I had to force me to finish it. Maybe you think diffrent and that's okay. No one cares about if I watch or not. This thread is a discussion thread so we can talk about what we feel, agree or disagree with. So you don't like this idea, I do like it. That's excatly what these threads are for.
[QUOTE=Lord_Schrotty;35728647]I said the last time i watched porn was about 1 or 2 weeks ago. I said I'll join this whole thing because I want to live without it. If I watch porn in 3 months maybe I changed my opinion so I don't really care anymore. And like I said it doesn't give me the pleasure I want to have. Whenever I fapped to porn I had to force me to finish it. Maybe you think diffrent and that's okay. No one cares about if I watch or not. This thread is a discussion thread so we can talk about what we feel, agree or disagree with. So you don't like this idea, I do like it. That's excatly what these threads are for.[/QUOTE] Tell me, if porn made it harder to masturbate, why did you watch it?
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35728707]Tell me, if porn made it harder to masturbate, why did you watch it?[/QUOTE] Tell me, if heroin made it harder to feel good sober, why did you take it?
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35728707]Tell me, if porn made it harder to masturbate, why did you watch it?[/QUOTE] Because over the years I got used to it. I couldn't imagine to fap without and I never really tried.
6 days and still going strong.
[QUOTE=Pace.;35728739]Tell me, if heroin made it harder to feel good sober, why did you take it?[/QUOTE] 1. If heroin made you feel like crap while you were on it, I damn well would ask why you take it. 2. You're comparing porn to heroine. I know people who've been addicted to heroine. Don't ever use metaphors ever again, because you're terrible at it.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35728857]1. If heroin made you feel like crap while you were on it, I damn well would ask why you take it. 2. You're comparing porn to heroine. I know people who've been addicted to heroine. Don't ever use metaphors ever again, because you're terrible at it.[/QUOTE] Do you know that there's a diffrence between fun and addiction?
[QUOTE=Lord_Schrotty;35728743]Because over the years I got used to it. I couldn't imagine to fap without and I never really tried.[/QUOTE] . . .Really? You're telling me that at no point in your life you've ever fapped without porn before now? You were at no point not in a position to be watching porn while masturbating? You've always had an internet connection, privacy, a mobile device with porn on it, etc . . .? For your entire life? Because if that's true, then I think you have much, much, [I]much[/I] bigger issues than porn.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35728901]. . .Really? You're telling me that at no point in your life you've ever fapped without porn before now? You were at no point not in a position to be watching porn while masturbating? You've always had an internet connection, privacy, a mobile device with porn on it, etc . . .? For your entire life? Because if that's true, then I think you have much, much, [I]much[/I] bigger issues than porn.[/QUOTE] Of course I did fap without. But that's not what I want to tell you. I said porn bores me. Porn bores me because I watched it too much. That's why I want to quit watching it. It's not like I'm addicted to it. The same thing with games. I don't really enjoy games anymore because they just bore me.
[QUOTE=Lord_Schrotty;35728894]Do you know that there's a diffrence between fun and addiction?[/QUOTE] Oh really? So you're suffering from porn withdrawal symptoms then? Tell me, how is the horrible shivering and paralyzing anxiety? Do you feel like you're slowly dying yet because you haven't gotten a fix from brazzers? Don't talk about fucking addiction to me. Don't you ever fucking talk about addiction to me. [editline]27th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lord_Schrotty;35728923]Of course I did fap without. But that's not what I want to tell you. I said porn bores me. Porn bores me because I watched it too much. That's why I want to quit watching it. It's not like I'm addicted to it. The same thing with games. I don't really enjoy games anymore because they just bore me.[/QUOTE] so your life is so entirely void and empty that you watch things that make it harder to masturbate just to fill the time
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35728936]Oh really? So you're suffering from porn withdrawal symptoms then? Tell me, how is the horrible shivering and paralyzing anxiety? Do you feel like you're slowly dying yet because you haven't gotten a fix from brazzers? Don't talk about fucking addiction to me. Don't you ever fucking talk about addiction to me. [/QUOTE] Please read this. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_addiction[/url] Of course you can get addicted to porn. You don't die like you do it from drugs but it's not that diffrent. You say you know a lot about addiction. Then you should know that you can't just stop doing something over night. The same goes with porn. [QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35728936]so your life is so entirely void and empty that you watch things that make it harder to masturbate just to fill the time[/QUOTE] Is it really that hard to understand that I don't do this anymore?
[QUOTE=Lord_Schrotty;35728983]Please read this. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_addiction[/url] Of course you can get addicted to porn. You don't die like you do it from drugs but it's not that diffrent. You say you know a lot about addiction. Then you should know that you can't just stop doing something over night. The same goes with porn. Is it really that hard to understand that I don't do this anymore?[/QUOTE] Oh cry me a fucking river and drown in it. People watch porn because it's fun to watch. They don't watch it because if they don't they'll collapse like a house of cards and go stark raving mad. Physical addiction is an actual measurable problem that affects a lot of people, and if you think for one moment that pathologically watching something is it's equal, then how about you go down to the local rehab clinic and pitch your spiel and see how people who actually suffer receive it. Yet you did do it. Apparently for so long that you were unable to think of doing anything otherwise. And only now that someone has approached you with the novel idea of stopping for stopping's sake have you ceased.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35729045]Oh cry me a fucking river and drown in it. People watch porn because it's fun to watch. They don't watch it because if they don't they'll collapse like a house of cards and go stark raving mad. Physical addiction is an actual measurable problem that affects a lot of people, and if you think for one moment that pathologically watching something is it's equal, then how about you go down to the local rehab clinic and pitch your spiel and see how people who actually suffer receive it. Yet you did do it. Apparently for so long that you were unable to think of doing anything otherwise. And only now that someone has approached you with the novel idea of stopping for stopping's sake have you ceased.[/QUOTE] And yet it's an addiction. There are people who can't even go out of the house because they need to watch their porn. I know that it's diffrent from other types of addictions. But the way you talk makes me think that you're the one who is addicted to porn. There must be something wrong with you if you can't just let other people live their life the way they want to and let them watch what they want to.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35729045]Oh cry me a fucking river and drown in it. [b]People watch porn because it's fun to watch. [/b]They don't watch it because if they don't they'll collapse like a house of cards and go stark raving mad. Physical addiction is an actual measurable problem that affects a lot of people, and if you think for one moment that pathologically watching something is it's equal, then how about you go down to the local rehab clinic and pitch your spiel and see how people who actually suffer receive it. Yet you did do it. Apparently for so long that you were unable to think of doing anything otherwise. And only now that someone has approached you with the novel idea of stopping for stopping's sake have you ceased.[/QUOTE] Lol, what. Boy, I'm sure having alot of fun looking at these random people having sex.
[QUOTE=eternalflamez;35729088]Lol, what. Boy, I'm sure having alot of fun looking at these random people having sex.[/QUOTE] There's a reason that Megan Fox has a career. And it has nothing to do with her supple and bounteous emotional depth as an actress.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35729106]There's a reason that Megan Fox has a career. And it has nothing to do with her supple and bounteous emotional depth as an actress.[/QUOTE] So you tell me this is hot?
[QUOTE=Lord_Schrotty;35729084]And yet it's an addiction. There are people who can't even go out of the house because they need to watch their porn. I know that it's diffrent from other types of addictions. But the way you talk makes me think that you're the one who is addicted to porn. There must be something wrong with you if you can't just let other people live their life the way they want to and let them watch what they want to.[/QUOTE] Different in that it's not a fucking addiction. Unless they're nymphomaniacs or something and they have a physical need for constant sexual stimulation, the only thing keeping them inside is themselves. With addiction you are literally unable to stop, and if you do you will harm yourself physically and mentally. [I]That[/I] is an addiction. You're going to have to define addiction to porn there if you want to accuse me of having it. Because as of, oh, 4 hours ago, I'm perfectly capable of leaving my house and interacting with other human beings without thinking about or being significantly distracted by porn. I'm here because I'm trying to understand where you people are coming from, as apparently you have a completely alien mode of thought that I'm unable to grasp. So I'm trying to grasp it. And so far all I've gotten is that you like to contradict yourselves and make abominably inaccurate and insensitive comparisons. [editline]27th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lord_Schrotty;35729126]So you tell me this looks good? [IMG]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100410150728/two-and-a-half-men/de/images/0/0d/Megan_fox%3DPrudence.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Nope. Which is why they chose this angle for Transformers. [img]http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/megan-fox-transformers-2.jpg[/img] Agree with the sentiment or not, the box office doesn't lie when it comes to what people like.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;35729168]Different in that it's not a fucking addiction. Unless they're nymphomaniacs or something and they have a physical need for constant sexual stimulation, the only thing keeping them inside is themselves. With addiction you are literally unable to stop, and if you do you will harm yourself physically and mentally. [I]That[/I] is an addiction. You're going to have to define addiction to porn there if you want to accuse me of having it. Because as of, oh, 4 hours ago, I'm perfectly capable of leaving my house and interacting with other human beings without thinking about or being significantly distracted by porn. I'm here because I'm trying to understand where you people are coming from, as apparently you have a completely alien mode of thought that I'm unable to grasp. So I'm trying to grasp it. And so far all I've gotten is that you like to contradict yourselves and make abominably inaccurate and insensitive comparisons.[/QUOTE] Then just tell me. Tell me what you want to know. All you asked was "Why are you guys doing this?". You got my answer and you're still here complaining about how stupid we are/I am.
Also why most porn doesn't involve extreme close ups. Go figure.
Why should they?
[QUOTE=Lord_Schrotty;35729196]Then just tell me. Tell me what you want to know. All you asked was "Why are you guys doing this?". You got my answer and you're still here complaining about how stupid we are/I am.[/QUOTE] Well, no. I pointed out an inconsistency in your logic and your story. Then another. Then another. Then another. Then I started having to explain things to you, and well, here we are with me trying to explain what sex appeal is and why people enjoy watching sex. I believe my questions at this point are something along the lines of, 1. You don't actually follow the idea of "no porn forever", nor do you seem to care about it. Yet you still post about how you haven't watched porn. Why? 2. You've stated that you masturbated to porn even though you found it harder to masturbate with than without. Why would you ever do that? And why would you only stop when the idea is suggested to you if you could already recognize that porn made masturbation harder? 3. What is the net gain from trying to quit masturbating? What benefit is derived that outweighs the effort put in? 4. What is the difference between masturbating with porn or without porn? 5. Why bother trying to quit porn or masturbation if it's inevitable you'll either fail or express your desire for one or both through some other far more disturbing and unhealthy act? I could think of more, but that's a decent list I believe.
6th day now, don't feel any different at all. Meh, gonna try to do a month without porn, then I'll watch pr0n like once a week or so. Seems like the best course of action for me. Yes/No?
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