• HEMA/Historical Warfare v. 1 "Strike in and hasten forth; rush to, let it hit, or go by."
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[QUOTE=Incoming.;48575650]This is slowly becoming an interest of mine, ever since I saw that video game kingdom come: deliverance. Do those massive battle recreations happen like in a civil war reenactment in real life, or is it rare?[/QUOTE] How do you mean? The only ones that do large battles are the SCA but i think that's mostly large groups of people fighting; I've never seen a proper simulation of a formation fight.
I tried out my kettle hat today. Holy fuck does it ring when you hit the sides. Should have figured, as it literally is shaped like a bell.
Welp. Due to me being broke I missed out on getting a ticket for the Open Longsword tournament at Swordfish. Sucks. I will probably still attend the whole thing. If any of you guys are going we should meet up and get some sparing matches going.
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;48583371]I tried out my kettle hat today. Holy fuck does it ring when you hit the sides. Should have figured, as it literally is shaped like a bell.[/QUOTE] haven't found a helm that doesn't ring like a bell every time you get hit which makes me consider using ear plugs. i've read that historically, it was recommended to smear beeswax inside the helm to lessen the noise. no idea if it works or not though.
[QUOTE=Sunkite;48591983]Welp. Due to me being broke I missed out on getting a ticket for the Open Longsword tournament at Swordfish. Sucks. I will probably still attend the whole thing. If any of you guys are going we should meet up and get some sparing matches going.[/QUOTE] Some from my club will be going to watch/join workshops...they're urging me to join so i might be there. Not yet decided, though. [editline]1st September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=kimchimafia;48592054]haven't found a helm that doesn't ring like a bell every time you get hit which makes me consider using ear plugs. i've read that historically, it was recommended to smear beeswax inside the helm to lessen the noise. no idea if it works or not though.[/QUOTE] I'm considering putting cotton plugs in my ears because they muffle the ringing without muffling voices. And i've worn helmets before, and trust me when I say no-one of them has rung like this when hit on the side. Like, the sound from being hit on the dome on the same helmet is much more bearable.
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;48593687]Some from my club will be going to watch/join workshops...they're urging me to join so i might be there. Not yet decided, though. [editline]1st September 2015[/editline] I'm considering putting cotton plugs in my ears because they muffle the ringing without muffling voices. And i've worn helmets before, and trust me when I say no-one of them has rung like this when hit on the side. Like, the sound from being hit on the dome on the same helmet is much more bearable.[/QUOTE] Do it. It's a great experience and we can get some sparing matches going.
Do you guys have any videos of group battles that aren't the massive hold-the-line style ones? They're fun, but they tend to be people mostly poking at each other, as large battles tend to be. I can't remember where I saw it, I can't remember if it was one of the guys at my group or if it was just something I saw online, but there was some event that had a fight in a forest area with a group of 10-20 in two teams fighting on opposite sides of a small bridge with some small fortifications built, and ever since I saw it I've been thinking that team-based fights with interesting terrain would be great fun.
So, Sunkite, I'll meet you at Swordfish, provided I can get the time off work I need.
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;48641816]So, Sunkite, I'll meet you at Swordfish, provided I can get the time off work I need.[/QUOTE] Awesome! Also, good news! My tutor texted me that they opened up more slots for the Open Longsword tournament. I managed to get myself a ticket, so I will be competing in the world championships!
This looks rather interesting,I will try to make some research on it althought I have always been the kind of guy who likes ranged combat than melee,and from where I come I know how to use a sling rather well.
Bumping to say that I'm coming to swordfish, guaranteed.
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;48825810]Bumping to say that I'm coming to swordfish, guaranteed.[/QUOTE] Awesome! We will have to meet up at the event then. Is it possible for you to bring your gear in case we get to have a sparing match?
[QUOTE=Sunkite;48835441]Awesome! We will have to meet up at the event then. Is it possible for you to bring your gear in case we get to have a sparing match?[/QUOTE] Yes, I'm bringing all of that, and enough feders from the club to share...Along with my own sword of course, but I have a feeling that the workshops will only accept feders.
[video=youtube;mmTi-NGQNh8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmTi-NGQNh8[/video] This was just posted yesterday. Looks like a quality production. Shame they didn't get Roland Warzecha in.
I wonder if he was offered at all. Eh, it's quite an ok production anyway...but I don't know, feels like it could've had bigger ambition than "these guys talk about HEMA"
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;48992093]I wonder if he was offered at all. Eh, it's quite an ok production anyway...but I don't know, feels like it could've had bigger ambition than "these guys talk about HEMA"[/QUOTE] Humble beginning I suppose. I quite enjoy the simplicity of it.
Only a couple of days 'till Swordfish starts, guys! Must admit I'm pretty stoked to participate. The finals will be livestreamed if some of you are interested in watching them.
[QUOTE=karolisoz;48992418]Humble beginning I suppose. I quite enjoy the simplicity of it.[/QUOTE] There's a point in that. If anything, it's very good for the people who know very little about this.
Back from Swordfish! Went way better than I expected. Won 4 out of 5 matches in the beginning pools, but sadly lost my first match in the elimination rounds.
Congratulations to your victories, it was nice meeting you! Hopefully we'll meet again next year.. There's a video of us sparring, I'll put it up soon enough.
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;49032480]Congratulations to your victories, it was nice meeting you! Hopefully we'll meet again next year.. There's a video of us sparring, I'll put it up soon enough.[/QUOTE] It was a pleasure to meet you as well! I hope you participate in the next year and we get to meet each other on the mat! Otherwise you should participate in the tournament in Copenhagen! Looking forward to seeing the video. (the stab you gave me in the chest still hurts lol) [editline]2nd November 2015[/editline] I might also post some videos of my fights, including the one where I bulldozed the norwegian dude out of the ring :v:
Way too much inactivity here. I'm gonna post my videos from Swordfish [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PMiwmx81w4[/media] Here's me vs Sunkite! [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1VFzi_5xSk[/media] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4IoE_39_vs[/media] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K5gxDiVoic[/media] the only video that doesn't feature me :v:
haven't posted here for awhile... i really need to get back into doing sca or historical warfare related things again. g-strogg, who's sunkite in the videos? is it bo? anyways, here are a few but hopefully, useful, info related to historical reenactment, sca, or hema. keep this thread alive. rust prevention: pretty damn important for anyone with armour around. i personally hate wearing rusty pieces of armour that already look bad without rust and it's a pain scrubbing it out. so i found a blog (specifically focuses on mail but this can easily work for plate too) that did an experiment with oils that can prevent rust. it's quite an extensive series of blog posts complete with pictures. here's the link: [URL]http://www.customchainmail.com/category/experiments/[/URL] if you're not bothered to cipher through all that, here are the basic results: [quote]Overall Results Fluid Film The winner, but with some drawbacks. Fluid Film won the overall rust challenge, and had some other pluses going for it. It smells the best, and (as I understand it) it is the most natural and safe. It has also been suggested that it is most consistent with what could have been used in the middle ages, which may be important to some. It is also a little cheaper than the other two, and a little easier to get locally for me (I live in Fort Lauderdale). The downside is that it leaves a very oily feel, which some may not like. Overall, it is a very good choice and will likely be what I use for my personal maille. Eezox Second place, but for some it might be better. Eezox took second in the overall rust challenge, but has one enormous advantage over Fluid Film, in that it is less oily to the touch and should not transfer as much dirt to clothing. In fact, because of that fact it might have been the winner, but it does have a major downside. The downside is that it smells really bad, even to me who is not sensitive to bad smells. More importantly, if you look at the spec data, it appears that it is also the most toxic (I am not educated in this stuff, so if I am incorrect, please feel free to correct me). Overall, if the smell and posible toxicity is okay with you, and the oil is not, Eezox is probably the winner. Break Free CLP Third Place. Break Free CLP, for as good as it did, does not seem to offer enough advantages over the other two finalists. It protects great, but not as well as the other two. It smells better than Eezox, but not as good as Fluid Film. It doesn’t appear to be toxic, but isn’t as safe as Fluid Film. It doesn’t leave as oily a feel as Fluid Film, but not as dry as Eezox. Overall, if you can’t find the other two easily, Break Free CLP is a fine choice, but I’d recommend Fluid Film or Eezox over it if you can get them. heck, I’ve just heard that someone found Break Free CLP at Walmart, so that certainly makes it easier to acquire than either of the other two. WD-40 Honorable Mention. WD-40 did not protect nearly as well as the other three, but it did better than the other 9 products tested. Because of its very low price and availability, it will do in a pinch if you run out of everything else. To help people make a more informed decision, I did a few other tests that people may care about.[/quote] [URL="http://www.yeoldegaffers.com/project_shield.asp"]How to Build Your Own Kite Shield[/URL] [URL="https://www.facebook.com/oldenglandgrownnew/"]This facebook group[/URL] is a great resource for anybody interested in the late 16th century reenactment, specifically the fashion, although it is mostly limited to the english style. and a pic of a very cool impression of a late roman soldier [IMG]http://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat/attachment.php?aid=11949[/IMG]
[media]https://youtu.be/JzoQhyR2Vdo[/media] I got a video of us sparring in the group! Kimchi, you might appreciate the half-finished armour my friend has! He made all of it but the harness (which would explain why it's seemingly from a different time than the rest of the armour).
[QUOTE=kimchimafia;49208893]haven't posted here for awhile... i really need to get back into doing sca or historical warfare related things again. g-strogg, who's sunkite in the videos? is it bo? [/QUOTE] Yes. We agreed on meeting at Swordfish for some fun experiences. Also this thread died off rather abruptly.
[media]https://youtu.be/irzl6TCCbns?list=PLOrrEapPnJOzg-yJaSlpbhUG4lAqmKJng[/media] Here's some rapier according to Meyer. Have the whole playlist, they recorded most of his devices: [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_lcFjZxREc&list=PLOrrEapPnJOzg-yJaSlpbhUG4lAqmKJng&index=1[/url] [editline]15th January 2016[/editline] also don't forget to watch in 60fps
real nice videos, especially since they're meyer rapier. it's kinda under-represented imo. a cavalier of the Tang Dynasty [img]http://ceerv.img46.wal8.com/img46/530447_20151017231952/144896602859.jpg[/img] yeah this thread is real slow/empty these days. it's nearly always g-strogg, me, or sunkite posting lol.
Well, we should do what we can. Find nice videos, etc. Also, Kimchi, you might be interested, I found a pdf of the I.33 which has the english translation overlaid on the images. Good for easier understanding of the manual. Everyone should look at it of course. [url]https://www.facebook.com/download/1673611686211441/engMs_I33complete.pdf[/url] Should be a direct download link.
thanks! i was meaning to read through I.33 properly; nice to have this on the side. should make it easier. also i might have posted [URL="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1T4KJG1L_kTrP9RcdU5Csw"]Knyght Errant's[/URL] videos before, but i'm recommending him again since he's really active these days. a video a week i think. he mostly focuses on armour and imo he's the probably the best on youtube. [video=youtube;3piLpRl4QLc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3piLpRl4QLc[/video] also a small pdf of a guy's personal coif and some useful notes on the mail coif in history. [URL]http://www.currentmiddleages.org/artsci/docs/Champ_Bane_Coif.pdf[/URL] and a couple of sourced quotes from various historical authors on the nature of pike combat. [URL]https://artmilitary.wordpress.com/2011/10/21/on-the-push-of-pike/[/URL] quite different from the idea that clashes between two pike squares were resolved with a bunch of dudes with zweihanders rushing in, chopping off pike heads.
[QUOTE=kimchimafia;49564334]thanks! i was meaning to read through I.33 properly; nice to have this on the side. should make it easier. also i might have posted [URL="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1T4KJG1L_kTrP9RcdU5Csw"]Knyght Errant's[/URL] videos before, but i'm recommending him again since he's really active these days. a video a week i think. he mostly focuses on armour and imo he's the probably the best on youtube. [video=youtube;3piLpRl4QLc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3piLpRl4QLc[/video] also a small pdf of a guy's personal coif and some useful notes on the mail coif in history. [URL]http://www.currentmiddleages.org/artsci/docs/Champ_Bane_Coif.pdf[/URL] and a couple of sourced quotes from various historical authors on the nature of pike combat. [URL]https://artmilitary.wordpress.com/2011/10/21/on-the-push-of-pike/[/URL] quite different from the idea that clashes between two pike squares were resolved with a bunch of dudes with zweihanders rushing in, chopping off pike heads.[/QUOTE] Well, I thought doppelsoldners weren't part of the pike squares anyway? I maybe missed some detail here or there.
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